List Mgmt. Christmas comes early (Nov 28 - 19 sleeps) - Draftee discussion

[Keys]

Link to draft picks held by each club

 

[paran]

I just want to allay anyone's fears about 'Lubrication along the way being required' was in the form of beer rather than anything else. Whilst we enjoyed each others company, it wasn't that much. hahaha

Ol' Libation Vs Lubrication error, eh?!
Been there, done that... of course, one tends to lead to the t'other...

 

[dinnaz]

Geez this description screams Pie Man and West Coast.

And we do love our Morrish Medalists. A half back with midfield potential

Morrish tie as Devil and Stingray pip top draft fancies

Lachlan Cowan and Taj Campbell-Farrell take Boys League best and fairest ahead of draft fancies Will Ashcroft and Bailey Humphrey

www.afl.com.au

Cowan is one of the most fun players in the draft with his flowing mullet and elite pace off half-back. He takes the game on at every opportunity and is accurate by foot with the whole ground in front of him. There have also been some exciting moments as he’s moved into the engine room at times, showing scope for a possible move in the future.

Previous ranking: 22

Best traits similar to: Zac Williams

 

[paran]

To put it into simple terms if you were comparing drafts. Think of this years top 10 like the 2007 draft and think of next years top 10 like the 2008 draft.

We are almost certain to end up with another top 3 pick next year in a hugely stronger draft. If we can maximise the use of this draft pick because someone is willing to pay overs for it, then it is what you do.

To me paying overs is not a 3-4 place drop + an early second rounder in this draft. I would want more than that.

The draft argument makes sense. You just have to look at the 2017 draft vs the 2018 draft. Sure the top 0f 2018 was better, but the quality of players goes much deeper in 2017 than 2018. Arguable though whether projecting how the 17yo cohort develops has much science/accuracy to it.

I do agree that the risk around Wardlaw and Phillipou wrt injuries means that it's better to hedge by trading down, however that's where the medico's have to step up and look at these two and compare to any past examples (e.g Judd, Morabito, etc) for benchmarking. IF the green light is there, both are talents worth taking the punt on.

The other side of it is - who would trade up?!

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

The other side of it is - who would trade up?!

A team that rates one player particularly highly. Someone might want to trade up to get Sheezel, for example.

 

[ArdentEagle]

Apologies I was. I was writing on Humphrey elsewhere at the time.

I have a weird imagination. Very first thing I visualised was you tattooing Humphrey B Bear on the old fella and posting at the same time on forum.

HBB in Gothic font. Reads HBB and Humphrey B Bear depending on blood flow.






Here he is about to show his latest work.


Here he is after he showed his latest work without consent.




We probably should strike him off our draft/recruit list, we're not doing bad boys (Bears) anymore.
Pies would give him a 7yr, 900k contract though.

 

[dinnaz]

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If he has a big game in the Metro v Country clash I see no reason he couldn't leapfrog a lot of the bigger names being touted.

 

[swingdog]

If he has a big game in the Metro v Country clash I see no reason he couldn't leapfrog a lot of the bigger names being touted.

Get Humphrey a tent and a bag of undisclosed white powder!

 

[Keys]

Get Humphrey a tent and a bag of undisclosed white powder!

*Anti-inflammatories

 

[WCE_phil]

I don't see him sliding outside the top 30. I'm not saying we should definitely take him, just that we should consider him alongside the likes of Jakob Ryan and Sam Gilbey. Where do you rate those 2? I think Gilbey could slide all the way to our 3rd rounder because of his leg injury.

I think Jakob Ryan goes earlier than people expect as this draft is so very light on quality flankers. Maybe not top 10 but likely between 10-20 (real picks not after our pick slides back to about 23)

Gilbey I always had pegged around the 25-30 mark anyway so yes with his injury I would think that our pick 38 is more the mark.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

How did he tie for the Morrish Medal if he can't kick? That seems just weird TBH.

The mullet was just too irresistible?

Looks good when he wins the ball, so that's probably why. He's a good player, but decision making/kicking isn't good enough. Very Duggan like

 

[Keys]

If we could find a HB like Keidean Coleman in this draft it’d be nice

 

[javaguice]

Nice one briztoon

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Nice one briztoon

Geez, what the heck has Fagan been doing playing Berry on a wing...
Goes into the guts and turns the game.
If only we drafted Berry...

 

[javaguice]

Geez, what the * has Fagan been doing playing Berry on a wing...
Goes into the guts and turns the game.
If only we drafted Berry...

Shame he won't be playing next week. Loved him and Oliver going at it

 

[Obeanie1]

Looks good when he wins the ball, so that's probably why. He's a good player, but decision making/kicking isn't good enough. Very Duggan like

Lol. Happy to have another Duggan at pick 20ish thanks.

People who are negative about Duggan dont see the good things he does. Or take into factor how bad our mids and forward up the ground have been.

In a balanced side Duggan plays better than most.

 

[dinnaz]

Lol. Happy to have another Duggan at pick 20ish thanks.

People who are negative about Duggan dont see the good things he does. Or take into factor how bad our mids and forward up the ground have been.

In a balanced side Duggan plays better than most.

Duggan>Cowan Those hating on Duggan are flat out wrong.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Lol. Happy to have another Duggan at pick 20ish thanks.

People who are negative about Duggan dont see the good things he does. Or take into factor how bad our mids and forward up the ground have been.

In a balanced side Duggan plays better than most.

I don't hate Duggan, my point is more if Duggan made better decisions and was a better kick he'd be a gun. Same for Cowan.
Duggan does lots of great things, I like him and I certainly think he's a better player than Cowan will be. It's just that part of his game which stops him being top end.

I certainly hope this doesn't start 8 pages of Duggan analysis...

I'm not the only draft watcher to mention they don't like Cowans decision making and kicking.

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

Agree it's a risk. I'd like the club to have enough faith in themselves to get his body right though. There's been plenty of times mids have had injuries in there draft years and had great careers. Judd's shoulder injury which we fortunate enough to benefit from and Selwood's knee injury which saw him slide to the Cats comes to mind.

Soft tissue injuries are a whole different matter.

Once you start getting repeat calf/hammy injuries, a player is on borrowed time.

 

[briztoon]

Geez, what the * has Fagan been doing playing Berry on a wing...
Goes into the guts and turns the game.
If only we drafted Berry...

Because his shoulders are buggered. Zorko even mentioned it in his interview. Can’t take the constant beating inside.

 

[THE A5]

Duggan>Cowan Those hating on Duggan are flat out wrong.

Duggans best and worst are so far apart. When he is fit he looks elite but then he gets injured and then struggles to find that touch back.

 

[DanWCE]

Because his shoulders are buggered. Zorko even mentioned it in his interview. Can’t take the constant beating inside.

That explains why he was a bit agitated when he got dumped onto his strapped shoulder in a tackle last night, by Oliver no less.

 

[Jupes]

collated a bunch of draft projections and graphed them

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Because his shoulders are buggered. Zorko even mentioned it in his interview. Can’t take the constant beating inside.

Shame for you guys, as he looked seriously good in there.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Sandy easily beat Gippsland in prelim.

Humphrey quiet with 14.

Charlie Clarke, massive favourite of mine kicked 3 and had 19.
Mackenzie 22
Sheezel 2.3 with 15
Hotton 18

 

[Monocle]

Sandy easily beat Gippsland in prelim.

Humphrey quiet with 14.

Charlie Clarke, massive favourite of mine kicked 3 and had 19.
Mackenzie 22
Sheezel 2.3 with 15
Hotton 18