List Mgmt. Christmas comes early (Nov 28 - 19 sleeps) - Draftee discussion

[Keys]

Link to draft picks held by each club

 

[EagleEgo]

At ~198CM you don't need to be top 10 in vertical jump. You already have a massive standing reach advantage over those short people who are top 10. Just need to have a decent vertical, doesn't need to be crazy (Nic Nat was a freak in that he was ~200cm with a crazy vert)

I dont know too much about u18 players other than reading the information from footy websites and applied a bit of "common sense" to discuss.
1. I am not sure Cadman is 198cm or 194cm
( Ref: Inside top prospect Aaron Cadman’s transformation… and why it has AFL clubs lining up to land him )
2. Even he is198cm, he is not competing with the short defenders as a key forward. He will be looked after by tall defenders.
3. Most of the available videos show that his strength is moving around, mark on the lead (not so much on contested mark against opponent) A bit like our Waterman.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

How did he compete in the U18 nationals?

Pretty sure he made AA.

 

[eagles rule]

Ginbey at Pick8 get on board ..


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[Happy Mastenator]

I dont know too much about u18 players other than reading the information from footy websites and applied a bit of "common sense" to discuss.
1. I am not sure Cadman is 198cm or 194cm
( Ref: Inside top prospect Aaron Cadman’s transformation… and why it has AFL clubs lining up to land him )
2. Even he is198cm, he is not competing with the short defenders as a key forward. He will be looked after by tall defenders.
3. Most of the available videos show that his strength is moving around, mark on the lead (not so much on contested mark against opponent) A bit like our Waterman.

Same principle stands, the taller you are your vert tends to top out at good, rather than great. Only the real freaks couple height with a great vert. It doesn't ultimately matter as long as they reach the good level though.

 

[CountryLad]

Jones or Keeler at pick 20 for mine.

I really feel it'll have to be Jones as he looks like he'd be a super important pickup given his athletic profile and football smarts.

Rioli is gone, Legdon is trash and Petrucelle is a fraud. We have no small/high half forwards on our list other than that. Alarm bells.



Hope the big SA boy can slide to 26 after.


Dream?

8 - Ginbey/McKenzie
12 - Hewett
20 - Jones
26 - Keeler

I think we still need an inside mid. I’m not sure Culley is the boy, yes he tackles well but I’m not sure getting in first and winning it is his strength.
Looks like he tackles well has a good kick and makes good decisions, can push forward to take a grab and kick a goal.

So that leaves Clarke or Ginbey as obvious choices at pick 8 as inside mids. I’d be surprised if Clarke was still there at 8.

McKenzie is an interesting one, it’s his kicking and decision making that are elite and something required for sides to bring the ball back through the corridor which is a need for us.

But if we went him I’m not sure Ginbey would be there at 12.

Guess if we went McKenzie and Hewitt we would still be looking for an inside mid later in the draft or next year even. Guess we have a few years to put the pieces together.

 

[dinnaz]

One for the draft historians?

How have the draft bolters faired from the last 5 or so drafts that were picked top 10?

Describe bolter? By large the media and by extension public only really hear the same names throughout the year.

 

[Seadog]

I’m very content with the draft hand don’t know why everyone is up in arms. Better chance of getting at least one gun and the ability to bring more youth in while our aged guns are still available to guide them

At least there is a sign the club sees the need to turn the list over as quick as they can.
Bit of a risk but hopefuly it speeds the process up.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

We also added Hunt so there's that too.

Trying to take the long term view but I'm an internet addicted Millennial who wants instant gratification right now.

 

[illegaleagle]

At least with Hewett, Ginbey and Jones there all fast and agile which we sorely lack

 

[Hook461123]

Everything I read about the trade says we have traded down because that’s where the wa talent is projected to go.
Saying that I hope the club isn’t that narrow minded and I’m going to choose to ignore it.

At least now I have a broader range of players to look at.

8. Poo, Clark, McKenzie, Humphries
12. Hotton, Hewett
20 . Ginbey, Jones
26. Barnett, Keeler

 

[Truckosaurus]

We won't be able to judge the deal until after next year at least.

 

[Biggie]

We won't be able to judge the deal until after next year at least.

That might even be too early.

I give it 3 seasons before we know the true reflection, in my humble opinion.

 

[sey666]

Is the pair (Ginbey, Hewett) better than (Erasmus, Johnson)?

 

[darksquare]

Gold Coast are an interesting one. They could very well go Busslinger.

Which would be interesting. Most phantoms have them taking Hollands, for family reasons. But if Hollands slides past GC, I bet he's still there at 12 and maybe even 20.

 

[Hook461123]

We won't be able to judge the deal until after next year at least.

Unless Warlord comes out and looks like a genuine star.

 

[Truckosaurus]

Unless Warlord comes out and looks like a genuine star.

He wouldn't have made it to us - North don't give pick 1 to GWS if they planned to take Cadman so Wardlaw was probably their pick.

 

[JDWCE]

Which would be interesting. Most phantoms have them taking Hollands, for family reasons. But if Hollands slides past GC, I bet he's still there at 12 and maybe even 20.

12 maybe but I highly doubt he makes it to 20. If he does slip past GC then I would love for us to nab him

 

[Front Runner]

I was initially a bit pissed with the 8 and 12 trade but have come around. I know that pick 2 (3) doesn't come around too often and I have read comment about backing our club and culture in but if we were interested in Cadman I can see the prospect of spending 2 years playing for the Begles making anyone feel home sick. Can't underestimate how critical it is to get the feeder right.
Should be at least exciting watching some young talent pull on the blue and gold next year.
If we rewind 12 months the prospect of getting Busslinger and Hewitt in this years draft would have almost been laughable.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

This is the acceptance thread and the contract and trade thread is the melt thread

 

[Hook461123]

He wouldn't have made it to us - North don't give pick 1 to GWS if they planned to take Cadman so Wardlaw was probably their pick.

IMO North or GWS would've taken Cadman

 

[wirra44]

Bit concerning he doesn’t know the name of the player he bases his game on, or maybe he likes a bit of Jamie cripps

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Jamie Cripps

Age

32

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

4.8

3star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.9

5star

G

1.3

5star

D

10.3

3star

K

6.3

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.4

3star

G

0.4

3star

D

6.4

2star

K

4.2

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

1.0

1star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.4

5star

and Jack crisp

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Jack Crisp

Age

31

Ht

190cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.2

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

9.7

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

4.0

5star

MG

307.6

4star

D

17.7

4star

K

10.7

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.6

3star

MG

307.6

4star

D

14.4

4star

K

8.4

4star

HB

6.0

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.0

5star

 

[Farang83150]

Bit concerning he doesn’t know the name of the player he bases his game on, or maybe he likes a bit of Jamie cripps and Jack crisp

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Could be our 1st Reuben!

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Bit concerning he doesn’t know the name of the player he bases his game on, or maybe he likes a bit of Jamie cripps and Jack crisp

He's a footballer, I'm impressed he can spell his own name.

 

[Big_Birdy]

He's a footballer, I'm impressed he can spell his own name.

Reweh Ginley? Rellen Gintey?

 

[RookiePick]

Anyone getting any Pavlich vibes from Phillipou? Seems like he is going to be a unit, that 6'4"-ish height and can run through the midfield or up forward.

Maybe I am just reading too much into the crow-eating Woodville-West Torrens thing?