List Mgmt. Christmas comes early (Nov 28 - 19 sleeps) - Draftee discussion

[Keys]

Link to draft picks held by each club

 

[ArdentEagle]

Can’t be worse than Shiel surely

Think it's pretty bad...That's why he sounds like Shiel to me.
Still Wardlaw for me.

 

[JDWCE]

Think it's pretty bad...That's why he sounds like Shiel to me.
Still Wardlaw for me.

Wardlaw highlights definitely look elite but the injuries are a worry with our S&C. Although I back our recruitment team to choose correctly either way. Very interesting period coming up

 

[Westcoast88]

Westcoast88 is that you Knightmare?

I wish unlike some on here I'm Not jealous of others success.

 

[Westcoast88]

Its a troll account, started 2 days ago.

Rather be a troll than a fake afl agent.

 

[Godfather32]

Rather be a troll than a fake afl agent.

Hey, you show some respect to the president of Whore Island thanks

 

[Westcoast88]

I definitely like what he offers. I can understand the outside sentiments but I don’t think he’s so ‘completely outside’ like some suggest. Has serious pace and bursts out of stoppages in a very impressive way. Kicking is probably the biggest knock I’ve seen on him though which is a bummer

Like Wardlaw over tsatas but the gap is narrowing.

 

[Westcoast88]

If the


Will have to completely disagree here….
You have conveniently missed the start of 3rd round they get back.

If they wanted a Sheezel or Warlaw ect they need to pay a premium to get it and the difference between the future 2nd and 3rd is the difference they pay. On this years ladder that’s pick 24 vs 38.

Pick 2 (2517 points)
Pick 6 and 24 (2536 points)

Difference is the futures, the premium they pay to get the kid they want.

I deliberately missed 3rd round because it ain't worth much. I hope you prove me wrong and eagles get the deal. It will never happen though hawks arent stupid, go on the hawks thread and offer it to them if your so confident if enough of them agree ill happily concede ?

 

[Westcoast88]

Hey, you show some respect to the president of Whore Island thanks

Your the one who doesn't like trading future picks and is willing to wait and be patient for the rebuild. I agree with you.

 

[CountryLad]

I deliberately missed 3rd round because it ain't worth much. I hope you prove me wrong and eagles get the deal. It will never happen though hawks arent stupid, go on the hawks thread and offer it to them if your so confident if enough of them agree ill happily concede ?

I’m not confident at all…. The conversation was that the Hawks and Eagles had talked about pick 2. I gave what I thought would be a good deal for the Eagles. We don’t need to trade pick 2 and we only would if we felt we got great compensation.
If your still not sure look at the port eagles draft swap last year. It’s a trade you want to win just like this one otherwise the hawks can **** off.

 

[numbat06]

Only watched the one highlight video of Tsatas, but he didn't seem to kick through the ball/have his head over the ball. Not a great kick.

 

[THE A5]

Ok. We’ve established why Knightmare may or may not be the most reliable source of information on draftees so let’s keep the focus on discussion of the actual draftees

cleaning up this thread will be a knightmare for you keys

 

[dinnaz]

I hear descriptions of Tsatas and getting very strong Dylan Sheil vibes. Would that be a reasonably fair comparison??

Does the lad have the base raw core strength to become more Judd like? (no pressure son)

Not as much of a nugget. Jack Macrae perhaps?
Hs kicking is generally okay. Has bombed a few goals from 50 as well. A bit like Sam Walsh IMO. Not amazing bullets but solid enough to hit most targets all day long.
My criticism is when at top speed he can spray it a little. There might only be a few guys in the AFL good enough to do that, most slow down 20% right at the end befoe thay kick to get the correct drop but that's more an experience thing than not being able to kick.

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

All this talk about not trusting our S&C to fix Wardlaws hamstrings is a bit silly. It's a theme everyone on here has latched onto and Wardlaw gets dismissed as a draft option. It feels like it diminishes the conversation.

If they hammies are fixable, the club will fix em or find a specialist who can.

If Wardlaw is a clear pick at #2, I can't see ROB hesitating because "ooh, I just don't trust our clubs medicos".

 

[Dark Sharks]

Wouldn't mind Knightmare coming in for Parto Rohan

 

[amazingjoshy]

He has openly criticised clubs the day after the draft for who they took. I can’t elaborate much more than that but it isn’t hard to see why when you go over his history.

Not getting involved in all the other stuff, but this says everything about the industry if this is a reason enough not to hire someone

 

[eDPS]

Not getting involved in all the other stuff, but this says everything about the industry if this is a reason enough not to hire someone

It’s a reason but it’s not the only one

 

[FKASC]

The other reason is he eats tuna for lunch at his desk

 

[Obeanie1]

All this talk about not trusting our S&C to fix Wardlaws hamstrings is a bit silly. It's a theme everyone on here has latched onto and Wardlaw gets dismissed as a draft option. It feels like it diminishes the conversation.

If they hammies are fixable, the club will fix em or find a specialist who can.

If Wardlaw is a clear pick at #2, I can't see ROB hesitating because "ooh, I just don't trust our clubs medicos".

Its also silly to burn the value of a pick 2 on one player when there are arguably better options. Especially when they cant get on the park or have other question marks over them. Tsatas / Sheezle. Not to mention players like Phillapou / Clark / Mackenzie will be there a couple of picks later.

If it was only the hamstrings then sure. But it is more than just that issue.

 

[SumaGodCoach]

The other reason is he eats tuna for lunch at his desk

Tunas Champion Data ranking points were higher then all the other oily fish.

 

[ArdentEagle]

Not as much of a nugget. Jack Macrae perhaps?
Hs kicking is generally okay. Has bombed a few goals from 50 as well. A bit like Sam Walsh IMO. Not amazing bullets but solid enough to hit most targets all day long.
My criticism is when at top speed he can spray it a little. There might only be a few guys in the AFL good enough to do that, most slow down 20% right at the end befoe thay kick to get the correct drop but that's more an experience thing than not being able to kick.

I think of JM as being a very good kick for the most part. Sam Walsh is also pretty damn strong. If he ends up anything like those two, he should be our#1.

Still love Wardlaw...Kind of reminds me of a prime Shuey but with more hops and sticker hands. (again, only watching highlights)

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Individual clubs are not allowed to do seperate medicals on draftees prior to the draft.

Why not?

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Why not?

18 clubs bringing in 3 or 4 specialists while the guys are doing exams!!!

The AFL do a single medical that is available to the clubs

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Fwiw Cal Twomeys Form guide and how it evolves

June 2021

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' June ranking

Vs Nov 2021

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' November ranking

Interesting he had Chesser and Jack Williams so high in the June one

Twas based on their underage years from 2020.

WA played a few games late in the year - WA Black vs WA Gold and Williams played quite well and kicked a few goals. So really impressed a few with the performance so was high on draft boards leading into 2021.

Chesser always had strong athletics profile and from memory a good 2020, but was dominant early in 2021.

 

[Westcoast88]

Twas based on their underage years from 2020.

WA played a few games late in the year - WA Black vs WA Gold and Williams played quite well and kicked a few goals. So really impressed a few with the performance so was high on draft boards leading into 2021.

Chesser always had strong athletics profile and from memory a good 2020, but was dominant early in 2021.

Chesser has been a real bust. People on here pinning their hopes on a player who has had his entire debut year wiped out by injury and before that missed a huge chunk of his draft year are dreaming. Chesser has missed valuable development time to the point where there is now major risk that he has stunted his potential in some way. I think he is less than a 50/50 bet to be an a grader. Could be Tony Notte all over again. Our youngstees are the worst in the comp, sadly the cupboard is virtually bare. Culley shows a bit and thats about it. Under 23 we are worst in comp. It's going to be a long rebuild.

 

[SumaGodCoach]

Chesser has been a real bust. People on here pinning their hopes on a player who has had his entire debut year wiped out by injury and before that missed a huge chunk of his draft year are dreaming. Chesser has missed valuable development time to the point where there is now major risk that he has stunted his potential in some way. I think he is less than a 50/50 bet to be an a grader. Could be Tony Notte all over again. Our youngstees are the worst in the comp, sadly the cupboard is virtually bare. Culley shows a bit and thats about it. Under 23 we are worst in comp. It's going to be a long rebuild.

Who hurt you?