List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[JoshWoodenSpoon]

Didn’t Phil say that he throws some misinformation to throw others off?

The post about posting red herrings was the red herring, Vishy.

 

[Corn69]

In terms of rucks, if we're looking for a plug and play mature ruck then Oliver Eastland is a great option from the Wafl.

He held his own against Freos liam Reidy today and has had an overall great season this year.

A younger option would be Joe Pike. A 19 year old 203cm ruck from the Geelong Falcons in the talent league. Has been averaging almost 16 disposals and 28 hitouts this year.

Both these guys could be decent rookie prospects.

 

[Bender_]

The only person on here you can trust is MrKennedy17, he's got the inside scoop on everything; the next pandemic created by the Ugandan stock market to boost their own Crypto investments in Elon Musks internet from Mars. $100% truth$.

 

[Broken_Chairs]

At least Phil, when he's not talking about the large amount of high quality TRIM he gets on his party island , divulges what appears to be some actual relevant information. Whether made up or not

Yep this - I choose to believe because it's real juicy entertainment, despite the likelihood of it being complete trollop

 

[pantskyle]

The only person on here you can trust is MrKennedy17, he's got the inside scoop on everything; the next pandemic created by the Ugandan stock market to boost their own Crypto investments in Elon Musks internet from Mars. $100% truth$.

What am I chopped liver?

 

[Bender_]

What am I chopped liver?

Let's just say when the apocalypse does come on one of the 3 dates (that may have already passed) according to MrK17 you'll be the first one eaten. And no I'm not flirting with you.

 

[pantskyle]

Let's just way when the apocalypse does come on one of the 3 dates (that may have already passed) according to MrK17 you'll be the first one eaten. And no I'm not flirting with you.

Are you asking me out?

 

[bzparkes]

The only person on here you can trust is MrKennedy17, he's got the inside scoop on everything; the next pandemic created by the Ugandan stock market to boost their own Crypto investments in Elon Musks internet from Mars. $100% truth$.

 

[amazingjoshy]

In terms of rucks, if we're looking for a plug and play mature ruck then Oliver Eastland is a great option from the Wafl.

He held his own against Freos liam Reidy today and has had an overall great season this year.

Agreed. Seems an easy plug an play option. Can you imagine the excitement on here if any of our backup rucks were racking up stats anything at all like these so consistently?

 

[random260]

I've been thinking which is more likely.

Harvey Langford failing in AFL due to his inability to adjust to tempo as a result of having a lack of speed and endurance?

Or

Jagga failing in Afl as a result of having a small frame?

The answer to that question should determine who we should draft at pick 3 if Draper and FOS (lesser extent) are out of question.

Now that I think about it both are probably equal in terms of runs on board. Smillie and Lalor have less runs then those two

 

[eaglevision]

So Garcia’s (and presumably Carroll’s) exit interview is tomorrow, we might get a taste of how good Phil’s dirty talk is.

Although he’s still playing VFL finals so may withhold any announcement of intentions.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

I get N Daicos/Sheezel vibes from Jagga. Would be the perfect foil to Reid.

I think he'll be gone by our pick for this reason though.

 

[twce13]

I get N Daicos/Sheezel vibes from Jagga. Would be the perfect foil to Reid.

I think he'll be gone by our pick for this reason though.

Think they both are better by foot. I rate his stoppage craft more tho.

Would be happy with jagga tho, a ball pig is something we need.

 

[Goroyals22]

The only person on here you can trust is MrKennedy17, he's got the inside scoop on everything; the next pandemic created by the Ugandan stock market to boost their own Crypto investments in Elon Musks internet from Mars. $100% truth$.

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[Cuzz09]

Don't mind Langford bit would suck to miss out on Draper.

Feel like we'll look back at not getting him if had the chance

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[Dark Sharks]

Eastland has been a top tier WAFL ruck for while now. Bloke is a workhorse.

Pretty criminal he gets forever stamped with the "state level" tag because he's undersized as a ruckman, so it's assumed he wouldn't have that sort of impact at AFL level. Either that or he's a flog like FIGJAM Bolton

Who even cares, he's 199cm but against Flynn, someone supposedly an AFL quality ruckman and size, he had (as shown in the table a few posts up);

24D, 11T, 46HO's. More than the combined totals of the AFL listed ruck spuds for West Coast playing that day.

Flynn had 13D, 3T and 38HO's
Spuddy Barnett 8D, 5T, 4HO's.

Can't hurt giving the bloke a rookie list spot or SSP if he's interested. At worst it just poaches him from Claremont to play for the Beagles (providing they haven't folded). I reckon his AFL output could eclipse Bailey's.

 

[BSD]

Don't mind Langford bit would suck to miss out on Draper.

Feel like we'll look back at not getting him if had the chance

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If Draper is still there at pick 3 maybe we should we trade 3 to the crows for pick 4 and Daniel Curtin.

 

[Dale Doback]

If Draper is still there at pick 3 maybe we should we trade 3 to the crows for pick 4 and Daniel Curtin.

Easy mate. I suggested using this leverage earlier but got negative feedback. They'll need more from us in return. I want the Chad but I doubt Sydney let him leave until 2025. I'd offer 3 and the Hawthorn pick for Barrass for 4 and Curtin.

 

[Dale Doback]

Easy mate. I suggested using this leverage earlier but got negative feedback. They'll need more from us in return. I want the Chad but I doubt Sydney let him leave until 2025. I'd offer 3 and the Hawthorn pick for Barrass for 4 and Curtin.

I'll add to that trade with a later round or future pick swap as a sweetener. They'll have to save face for trading up to get him.

 

[bzparkes]

If Draper is still there at pick 3 maybe we should we trade 3 to the crows for pick 4 and Daniel Curtin.

Easy mate. I suggested using this leverage earlier but got negative feedback. They'll need more from us in return. I want the Chad but I doubt Sydney let him leave until 2025. I'd offer 3 and the Hawthorn pick for Barrass for 4 and Curtin.

Because the Crows list manager would need to be huffing paint to even remotely consider giving up their first round draft pick from last year for Sid Draper.

Even with the Barrass first rounder, that gives them less of a return than what they invested in Curtin, so they'd just keep him.

It's only in our minds that they are 'desperate' for Draper. There's zero indication they actually are, especially when they wouldn't take our first rounder this year for Curtin, which would've all but guaranteed Draper for them.

 

[Dale Doback]

Because the Crows list manager would need to be huffing paint to even remotely consider giving up their first round draft pick from last year for Sid Draper.

Even with the Barrass first rounder, that gives them less of a return than what they invested in Curtin, so they'd just keep him.

It's only in our minds that they are 'desperate' for Draper. There's zero indication they actually are, especially when they wouldn't take our first rounder this year for Curtin, which would've all but guaranteed Draper for them.

Don't know what huffing is but are you referring to chroming? Pretty clear South Australian team's target South Australians, just like Fremantle and us want returning Western Australians. Hence the leverage with Draper. I rate Curtin way higher than most. The highlights of that Colts game in the wet for Claremont v East Perth was enough. Shades of Pendles. Would hate to see him playing for Fremantle in 2 years time.

 

[Dale Doback]

Because the Crows list manager would need to be huffing paint to even remotely consider giving up their first round draft pick from last year for Sid Draper.

Even with the Barrass first rounder, that gives them less of a return than what they invested in Curtin, so they'd just keep him.

It's only in our minds that they are 'desperate' for Draper. There's zero indication they actually are, especially when they wouldn't take our first rounder this year for Curtin, which would've all but guaranteed Draper for them.

And to add to your point we traded out of the Tsatis, Sheezel range for the same reason. Both Vic metro who didn't want to be here and said as much pre draft. I'll take Ginbey and Hewett every day. Hewett could be a star in this league when he gets his foot right. There's no WA talent in this years crop anywhere near what those two project.

 

[bzparkes]

Don't know what huffing is but are you referring to chroming? Pretty clear South Australian team's target South Australians, just like Fremantle and us want returning Western Australians. Hence the leverage with Draper. I rate Curtin way higher than most. The highlights of that Colts game in the wet for Claremont v East Perth was enough. Shades of Pendles. Would hate to see him playing for Fremantle in 2 years time.

Of course they would prefer homegrown talent if of equal ability.

They ain't giving up Curtin for a 1 pick move up the order to do it though, as the other poster suggested, nor are they doing it for a worse pick than they used on Curtin to begin with.

Also, who says they don't rate other players higher than Draper?

Remember, last year Vic media were sure we'd trade back from #1 to pick Curtin, or just pick him outright.

The fact Adelaide refused to trade with us when we offered our future first for their pick they used on Curtin indicates they clearly valued Curtin higher than Draper, because they wouldn't have expected to perform so badly this year.

 

[BartBart]

What is the record number of rucks a team has had on their list at the same time?

 

[Mop]

What is the record number of rucks a team has had on their list at the same time?

I don't know, but Daniel Kerr has a handful of recorded hitouts. Does he now count as a pure ruckman? I think he should. The stats don't lie