List Mgmt. Christmas comes early (Nov 28 - 19 sleeps) - Draftee discussion
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Poor GWS and GCS recruiting team where every player is considered a flight risk... even the home grown ones apparently.
Mitchell will be trying to win every game he can make no mistake.
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So all the bed wetter’s get an extra month at home with Mum and Dad
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Yeah he's going to be a beast I hope we snag him.
I'll have a crack at a phantom to our third pick. Although I've got NFI after our second (or before that most likely). Unfortunately I now think we just miss out on one of those top shelf mids (don't think Ginbey has the production to be classed with them). I'd happily have either Humphrey or Phillipou at our first but the latter doesn't seem to be rated as highly and the former is a fwd-mid. Hoping Hawks take Clark, and Suns-Cats take two of Hollands-Busslinger-Humphrey leaving McKenzie for us.
1. Cadman (GWS)
2. Ashcroft (Bris)
3. Wardlaw (NM)
4. Sheezel (NM)
5. Tsatsas (Ess)
6. McKenzie (Haw)
7. Busslinger (GCS)
8. Clark (Gee)
9. Ginbey (WCE)
10. Jefferson (Stk)
11. Humphrey (Car)
12. Phillipou (WB)
13. Hewett (WCE)
14. Hollands (Melb)
15. Hotton (Syd)
16. Hayes (GWS)
17. Hustwaite (Coll)
18. Konstansty (Syd)
19. George (GWS)
20. Burgeil (GWS)
21. C.Clarke (WCE)
Then at 27 I think we have a stab at one of Allen, D.Jones, J.Ryan, K.Smith, Barnett, Keeler, Szybowski
1. Cadman (GWS)
2. Ashcroft (Bris)
3. Wardlaw (NM)
4. Sheezel (NM)
5. Tsatsas (Ess)
6. McKenzie (Haw)
7. Busslinger (GCS)
8. Clark (Gee)
9. Ginbey (WCE)
10. Jefferson (Stk)
11. Humphrey (Car)
12. Phillipou (WB)
13. Hewett (WCE)
14. Hollands (Melb)
15. Hotton (Syd)
16. Hayes (GWS)
17. Hustwaite (Coll)
18. Konstansty (Syd)
19. George (GWS)
20. Burgeil (GWS)
21. C.Clarke (WCE)
Then at 27 I think we have a stab at one of Allen, D.Jones, J.Ryan, K.Smith, Barnett, Keeler, Szybowski
Does anyone see us taking a ruckman at either 20 or 26? I think we're in a bit of strife with Williams and Jamieson as the only recognised ruckmen on the list behind Nic. The 3 names that I see being mentioned are Barnett, Broadbent and Keeler. Anyone think we will grab one of these 3?
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Doesn’t need to be this extreme, I’m not suggesting someone like Melbourne is going to tank their whole season to finish bottom in the chase of Reid.
There will be vic teams in the bottom 4-6 and they really only need to underperform in one or two games against the other teams in that group to outperform them in the race to the bottom.
Might just grab a stop-gap out of the WAFL as a rookie, I guess it depends on the quality of rucks at our last pick (and whether we want 4 ruckmen on our list, 10% of our list for 1 position seems high).
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I think that's a very solid effort and reckon you nailed the top 10 or even top 14, after that it is a little harder to predict.
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Keeler is more a KPF/Ruck, he's the type that would spend 75% in the forward line and pinch hit.
Barnett, I think we'll definitely consider him around 20 or 26. Great around the ground ruckman, but tap work is ok.
I'd rather wait until later in the draft (don't think he'll last to rookie), and take Broadbent. With a later pick, no real risk - but huge potential upside. He's pretty good at centre bounce, very good at around the ground ball ups/throw ins and has Cox like ball skills. Very much worth the risk IMO.
Asterix floated a good idea, trade a future fourth with Gold Coast for pick 45 or maybe GWS pick 57.
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For those glass half empty types…. If we finish last this is what you have to look forward to.
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Love how he stands in a tackle, like some peasant is hanging off him and he just takes his time unaffected to assess his options to give it off!
Going to be between us, Norf and now Hawks for him.
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Hawks are definitely going down the path. I posted 2 days ago about Dermie’s comments in Trading day, I had to listen to it a number of times to make sure I wasn’t hearing things but he basically said Hawks are looking already to next years draft.
The kid may not improve which means he still goes pick one but hell if he does improve even more he’s going to be some hot property
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I think that’s not bad effort the GCS Pick is likely to see a pleasant surprise In Hollands getting to join his brother at the Suns ..
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Now that's a player you can build your whole team around
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first time poster - forgive my ignorance and go easy on me.
Thought I'd have a crack at a mocky that included West Coast doing some live trading
1 Ashcroft – Bris* (match bid)
2 Cadman – GWS (traded up for him)
3 Wardlaw – Nth (JHF replacement)
4 Busslinger – Nth (may be pushing it but I rate the kid and by far the best def in draft (if not here I think he'll go in top 10 somewhere). Nth lack quality talls down back not mids + good pairing with McKay)
5 Sheezel – Ess (most electric player as always for the Dons)
6 Hollands – GC (Saw someone post this earlier and makes sense - younger brother of current player with top 10 talent, retention continues to be an issue at GC)
7 Tsatas – Haw (best outside mid, to match young inside bulls presently at the club)
8 Clark – Gee (copy and paste Joel Selwood)
9 McKenzie – Carl (traded in from WCE for pick 11 + pick 30 - to jump ahead of StK)
10 Jefferson – StK (need talls and have been vocal about it, Jefferson best option)
11 Phillipou – WCE (traded in from Carl - Need exciting goal scoring mids Pou fits the bill)
12 Humphrey – WB (most uncertain point of draft, what do WBD need? KPD and KPF sorted with Darcy/Jones and Lobb - have them going with best available Vic player (also first name Bailey))
13 Ginbey – WCE (still need more young mids - can’t go wrong with Clayton Oliver 2.0)
14 Hewett – WCE (traded in from Melb for pick 20 + pick 26 - Hewett probably best available at this stage but do Melb really want to draft another WA boy after Jackson?? + Melb only have pick 14 and 37 in 2022 draft. WCE need to get back in before Sydney’s pick because you know they will draft Hewett and turn him into a superstar. 20 + 26 for 14 + 37 seems fair (if you can do pick 20+30 do it but I think that is less likely))
15 Fletcher – Bris* (match bid from Syd)
16 Hustwaite – Syd (big bodied midfielder to add to young core)
17 Hotton – GWS (best mid in draft at this point to replace hopper, tarranto, bruhn)
18 Hayes – Col (Have a solid team, Hayes provides back up to injury prone Moore and another tall option if needed down back)
19 Konstanty – Syd (feels like a Syd pick up, addresses needs fwd of center)
20 Weddle – GWS (need young talls down back)
21 Keeler – GWS (Cadman can’t do it on his own, need more talls and goals up top)
22 Cowan – Melb (addresses small def need)
23 Burgiel – WB (lost a couple of mids in trade period, Burgiel fits the Dunkley mould of a goal scoring mid)
24 Alwyn Davey Jr – Ess (Father son prospect falls to them at 24)
25 Michalanney – Ade (good key def that will develop nicely with the young team)
26 Gruzewski – Haw (a good swing man for the young list)
27 George – Col (exciting explosive fwd that Col can afford to wait on)
28 Szybkowski – Melb (more pacey mids never hurts, might go for another def option here but)
29 Barnett – Col (best ruckmen in draft and Col don’t have many)
30 Clarke – StK (still need more goal scoring threats, best Vic small at this point)
31 Jones – WCE (Need more small fwds with Rioli gone and Petch not confirmed starter yet)
32 Allan – Freo (Father son.. kind of, provides height in midfield which freo don’t have much of with Fyfe up top and Mundy+Acres gone)
33 Ryan – GWS (ageing backline – best mid-sized def at this point)
34 D’Aloia – Stk (need to add to inside midfielder depth after drafting 2 fwds)
35 Scully – Port (need more talls/ruck options with Dixon/Lycett supposedly cooked)
36 Broadbent or Gilbey – WCE (Pick drops to 36 after Brisbane slide out of draft with 36,37 and 38 all matching bids for Ashcroft and Fletcher)
37 Who cares..
Thought I'd have a crack at a mocky that included West Coast doing some live trading
- sliding back to 11 with Carlton
- trading back in at 14 as O'brien rates evenness of top 15 prospects.
1 Ashcroft – Bris* (match bid)
2 Cadman – GWS (traded up for him)
3 Wardlaw – Nth (JHF replacement)
4 Busslinger – Nth (may be pushing it but I rate the kid and by far the best def in draft (if not here I think he'll go in top 10 somewhere). Nth lack quality talls down back not mids + good pairing with McKay)
5 Sheezel – Ess (most electric player as always for the Dons)
6 Hollands – GC (Saw someone post this earlier and makes sense - younger brother of current player with top 10 talent, retention continues to be an issue at GC)
7 Tsatas – Haw (best outside mid, to match young inside bulls presently at the club)
8 Clark – Gee (copy and paste Joel Selwood)
9 McKenzie – Carl (traded in from WCE for pick 11 + pick 30 - to jump ahead of StK)
10 Jefferson – StK (need talls and have been vocal about it, Jefferson best option)
11 Phillipou – WCE (traded in from Carl - Need exciting goal scoring mids Pou fits the bill)
12 Humphrey – WB (most uncertain point of draft, what do WBD need? KPD and KPF sorted with Darcy/Jones and Lobb - have them going with best available Vic player (also first name Bailey))
13 Ginbey – WCE (still need more young mids - can’t go wrong with Clayton Oliver 2.0)
14 Hewett – WCE (traded in from Melb for pick 20 + pick 26 - Hewett probably best available at this stage but do Melb really want to draft another WA boy after Jackson?? + Melb only have pick 14 and 37 in 2022 draft. WCE need to get back in before Sydney’s pick because you know they will draft Hewett and turn him into a superstar. 20 + 26 for 14 + 37 seems fair (if you can do pick 20+30 do it but I think that is less likely))
15 Fletcher – Bris* (match bid from Syd)
16 Hustwaite – Syd (big bodied midfielder to add to young core)
17 Hotton – GWS (best mid in draft at this point to replace hopper, tarranto, bruhn)
18 Hayes – Col (Have a solid team, Hayes provides back up to injury prone Moore and another tall option if needed down back)
19 Konstanty – Syd (feels like a Syd pick up, addresses needs fwd of center)
20 Weddle – GWS (need young talls down back)
21 Keeler – GWS (Cadman can’t do it on his own, need more talls and goals up top)
22 Cowan – Melb (addresses small def need)
23 Burgiel – WB (lost a couple of mids in trade period, Burgiel fits the Dunkley mould of a goal scoring mid)
24 Alwyn Davey Jr – Ess (Father son prospect falls to them at 24)
25 Michalanney – Ade (good key def that will develop nicely with the young team)
26 Gruzewski – Haw (a good swing man for the young list)
27 George – Col (exciting explosive fwd that Col can afford to wait on)
28 Szybkowski – Melb (more pacey mids never hurts, might go for another def option here but)
29 Barnett – Col (best ruckmen in draft and Col don’t have many)
30 Clarke – StK (still need more goal scoring threats, best Vic small at this point)
31 Jones – WCE (Need more small fwds with Rioli gone and Petch not confirmed starter yet)
32 Allan – Freo (Father son.. kind of, provides height in midfield which freo don’t have much of with Fyfe up top and Mundy+Acres gone)
33 Ryan – GWS (ageing backline – best mid-sized def at this point)
34 D’Aloia – Stk (need to add to inside midfielder depth after drafting 2 fwds)
35 Scully – Port (need more talls/ruck options with Dixon/Lycett supposedly cooked)
36 Broadbent or Gilbey – WCE (Pick drops to 36 after Brisbane slide out of draft with 36,37 and 38 all matching bids for Ashcroft and Fletcher)
37 Who cares..
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That’s a fair effort. You didn’t let us know what the blues throw in to jump up to grab McKenzie? Maybe that with 20 & 26 get the Dees pick.
Don’t mind the poo Ginbey and Hewitt with Jones certainly gives us some midfield talent to work with.
Looks forward to us trading 1 for 5 & 12.
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Look maybe the eagles would be bold enough to trade it out who knows but he will be worth more than just 5 & 12 if he continues to impress
. The good news is he’s a country Vic boy and not from Geelong so every chance he won’t be a bed wetter
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I would actually like for another club to take Buslinger
I am not for a minute saying the kid cant play, but he isn't what we need. And can anyone really seeing O'Brien passing on a backman with our first selection given his history?
At least if some else selects Buslinger, that takes the bullets out of the Piemans gun
I am not for a minute saying the kid cant play, but he isn't what we need. And can anyone really seeing O'Brien passing on a backman with our first selection given his history?
At least if some else selects Buslinger, that takes the bullets out of the Piemans gun
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Fair effort if we were to walk away with the Poo, Ginbey, Hewett, Jones and Broadbent/Gilbey.
I'd be happy if we drafted 2 of either Mackenzie, Poo, Ginbey, Hewett or Hollands.
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