List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Edition

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Latest news and rumours:

• Tom Barrass officially requests trade to Hawthorn
  • Duffield: Eagles want two first round picks - "It may have to be in this year’s draft rather than a future pick."
  • Morris: Josh Battle is set to join Barrass at Hawthorn in 2025 - Ralph: Unclear if Hawks will pay enough for Band 1

• Kysaiah Pickett interested in a trade
  • "Club and management are confident they can work through his concerns"
  • Daniels: Pickett’s preference is Fremantle. Fremantle are keen, but Bolton the priority. Getting both “not impossible”. West Coast “an option if things get complicated.”

• Jai Culley, Coen Livingstone, Loch Rawlinson in line for one-year deals (The West)
  
  
• Liam Baker and Shai Bolton
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  Shai Bolton

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  officially request trades to WA
  • Daniels: Bolton is Fremantle’s priority

 

[TerryFilk]

My new dream off season with TB now being linked to Hawthorn

Sign English via RFA

Priority picks: two end of 1sts that we HAVE to TRADE

Trades:
WC give: Barrass, F2
WC get from HAW: 8, F1

WC give: B.Williams
WC get from MEL: 38

WC give: 1X priority pick
WC get from RIC: Baker

WC give: 1X priority pick, 38
WC get from BRI: 16

WC give: F3
WC get from WBD: Garcia

Ideally we’d also be shipping out 23 and Ryan for one of the Suns firsts and Davies, but I don’t see Ryan wanting to leave WA so I’ll leave it at that.

I think all of those deals are realistic, two obviously depend on us getting priority picks which is probably more unlikely than likely unfortunately.

But if it does eventuate and we can go into the draft with picks - 2 or 3, 8, 16 and 23, that would be an incredible haul, I probably wouldn’t split our first considering the Saints will get Band 1 Compensation for Battle and we’d already have 8 and 16 anyway.

You add English, Baker and Garcia into our line up immediately, plus a couple of the top end draftees and suddenly our side and list looks a fair bit better in the short term and especially the long term.

Again, this is just a bit of fun, I’m not saying all those deals will happen, but if you look at the deals in isolation, I think they are all very realistic.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

If Hawks give us 8 + f1st for Barass id beat my man meat so hard the next door neighbour will get pregnant from it all

 

[TOA.]

The unfortunate truth is that I'd have preferred Duggan to go over Barass, and try and manufacture him a good contract somewhere to net us a first round pick compo (see for eg, the McKay/Essendon/Roos scenario last year)

A small defender like Duggan (who lets be honest is a pretty mundane player prone to errors) is far less important and replaceable than a big key defender like Barass. Especially with the way the ball enters our D50.

Part of me feels a more ruthless and savvy club could have manufactured this but we are nowhere near that level.

The only potential downside is if we were to snag English and then dilute the Duggan compo.

 

[Art OF war]

Rather trade Oscar Allen instead of Barrass

Said no-one ever?

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

The unfortunate truth is that I'd have preferred Duggan to go over Barass, and try and manufacture him a good contract somewhere to net us a first round pick compo.

A small defender like Duggan (who lets be honest is a pretty mundane player prone to errors) is far less important and replaceable than a big key defender like Barass. Especially with the way the ball enters our D50.

Part of me feels a more ruthless and savvy club could have manufactured this but we are nowhere near that level.

Tend to think this exact logic is true of Liam Baker but not stopping is talking to the guy all the time...

 

[DanWCE]

The unfortunate truth is that I'd have preferred Duggan to go over Barass, and try and manufacture him a good contract somewhere to net us a first round pick compo (see for eg, the McKay/Essendon/Roos scenario last year)

A small defender like Duggan (who lets be honest is a pretty mundane player prone to errors) is far less important and replaceable than a big key defender like Barass. Especially with the way the ball enters our D50.

Part of me feels a more ruthless and savvy club could have manufactured this but we are nowhere near that level.

The only potential downside is if we were to snag English and then dilute the Duggan compo.

Duggan isn't worth as much in draft currency.

You don't push out your Victorian Captain in the same year you're trying to convince a pretty special Victorian kid to hang around long term.

You don't push out your Captain at all. I suspect the Captaincy decision to go with Duggan over TB was because TB had a foot out the door having a sniff around last year.

 

[ghostbat12]

Bulldogs fans don’t think barrass is worth more than mid first. Apparently something about how stringer got pushed out.

Difference is barrass is making the moves…we are happy with barrass staying for 3 years.

 

[ghostbat12]

Does seem like classic West Coast that they had a handshake agreement to increase his wage so he stays and then when they actually did it, they only increased it by a tiny amount.

“Classic” west coast?

Classic west coast is giving unwarranted contract extensions and pay rises. No wonder barrass thinks “what about me”.

 

[kane249]

Bulldogs fans don’t think barrass is worth more than mid first. Apparently something about how stringer got pushed out.

Difference is barrass is making the moves…we are happy with barrass staying for 3 years.

Barrass hasn't been sleeping with underage girls or has a massive gambling problem either like old Jake

Bulldogs were happy to move on Stringer for his off field stuff

 

[RanaNaved]

I don't know why Dogs fan's think their opinions are worth anything. Barrass will cost more than they think/wish

 

[Patterz123]

If Dan Houston

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Dan Houston

Age

27

Ht

186cm

Wt

88kg

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Def

Career

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Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

11.8

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.0

5star

MG

289.2

4star

D

17.6

4star

K

11.6

4star

HB

6.0

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.4

4star

MG

319.9

5star

D

16.6

4star

K

12.4

5star

HB

4.2

4star

M

7.0

5star

T

2.6

4star

MG

279.8

5star

is set to command 2 x Firsts

TB has to be close to that in terms of market value

It's a heartbreaking call, but we need to start winning the ball in middle and not rely on our defence

Plus HEdwards must be close to leaving, if he doesn't start playing each week

Shaping like a must do move for our future progression

 

[kane249]

Duggan will be too old to run for US president by the time his contract expires

Lacks the criminal history to be the Republican nominee though

 

[bzparkes]

Lacks the criminal history to be the Republican nominee though

If he gets any more concussions he'll have the cognitive ability of the current prez

 

[JackOutback]

We've got 27 problems and Duggan ain't one of them.

 

[mattyc75]

Does seem like classic West Coast that they had a handshake agreement to increase his wage so he stays and then when they actually did it, they only increased it by a tiny amount.

Exactly what happens in my department at BHP

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[Ace McKane]

If Dan Houston is set to command 2 x Firsts

TB has to be close to that in terms of market value

It's a heartbreaking call, but we need to start winning the ball in middle and not rely on our defence

Plus HEdwards must be close to leaving, if he doesn't start playing each week

Shaping like a must do move for our future progression

Gotta keep Harry.

I don't mind paying TB if he chooses to stay, I think it would be bad business to extend him further. My concern is losing Edwards and then TB's body gives away/he gives it up before we contend again. Gov will be gone, age + his play style, he is another hard hit away from having to reconsider. Means we're stuck without a KPD at all... other than maybe Bazzo?

In five years time, would we look back on keeping him and go ****... we had a chance for big draft capital to accelerate things and we let it go again, just like Gaff, Darling etc... whoever else had offers on the table years ago (albeit at a not so desperate stage for the club). Letting Judd go was still a win/win.

If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always got?

 

[kerrazy]

Duggan is 27

 

[MerryHell]

A cushy job post retirement doesnt pay $700k per annum in the extra two years.

Ignoring deductions, after tax, $400k pa take home, so $800k total in 2 years.

What's a cushy job at WCE get you Toddy_Nesbitt ?

Just for fun, $135k gets you $100k pa take home, so after 8 years, Tommy would be ahead

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Toddy wouldn’t get out of bed for anything under a quarter million.

 

[maverick001]

We just signed on a 30 year old on a 4 year contract that has been playing with an injured knee, and has had two sequential concussions that have put him out for multiple weeks.. we have not learnt our lesson

He’s 27

 

[DeckedOut20]

 

[JackOutback]

Duggan is the same age as Jimi Hendrix will always be, Janis Jopin, Jim Morrison, Kurt Cobain, Amy Winehouse... oh shit.

 

[Obeanie1]

Interesting backline named this week.

Cole TB Harry
Hunt Gov Hough

Ginbey, Rotham named on bench

No Chesser, Witherden and Duggan out Con Prot.

 

[MerryHell]

Gov is out, failed fitness test

 

[mattyc75]

We'd be crazy not to trade barrass if there's significant interest from multiple teams. A single top 10 pick would be enough I wouldve thought

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