List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Happy Mastenator]

IF Lalor is going to slide to 6, does that make a pick split more appealing?

Drafting an injured player? I love it when you talk dirty.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

WCE were only 1 of 2 clubs who didnt have all players signed to contracts that raised in line with the salary cap. I can find out the other but from memory it wasn't Freo.

Confirm it is Essendon - HUN had a long article about us and the Drug Rats and the CBA increase with implications

 

[Goldfish]

IF Lalor is going to slide to 6, does that make a pick split more appealing?

Yes. Although we haven't got a great record with hamstrings...

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Sandover Medal 2024: Callan England opens up on losing love for game at West Coast to becoming Claremont star​

Classic Eagles.

 

[triplegee]

Sandover Medal 2024: Callan England opens up on losing love for game at West Coast to becoming Claremont star​

Welcome to the club Callan...

 

[RanaNaved]

Not every one is cut out for elite level sport

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Not every one is cut out for elite level sport

Like two thirds of our list

 

[Convocation]

Has anyone had any further tidbits of information re Carlton's Jack Carroll?
Out of Contract, 15 games this year, left footer, good skills and footy IQ, still only 21 years of age, with I believe good upside, tough to crack into Carltons midfield.
What would a trade look like if SEN Peter Vlahos is correct that he might be looking for a trade back to WA?

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Not every one is cut out for elite level sport

Just @ me next time.

 

[shooshka]

Career average probably isnt the best way to compare what they are worth now. Bailey Smith started his career very well but has completely stagnated. Boltons AFL player rating of 15.1 last year playing only 50% in the middle is extremely extremely good. When Smith played in the middle in 2022 his rating was only 11.7. Not to mention Smith hasnt played at an above average level for two years.

19 games, Ave 23.5 disposals, 3.5 clearances, 350 metres gained as a 22yo in 2023. At the Eagles we dream of players stagnating that much

I get he was better in 2021 and 2022 (his 2022 is pretty much better than any season Bolton has produced) - and that he is coming off a major injury, but he is a very very good player yet to hit his prime (turns 24 in Dec).


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[Happy Mastenator]

19 games, Ave 23.5 disposals, 3.5 clearances, 350 metres gained as a 22yo in 2023. At the Eagles we dream of players stagnating that much

I get he was better in 2021 and 2022 (his 2022 is pretty much better than any season Bolton has produced) - and that he is coming off a major injury, but he is a very very good player yet to hit his prime (turns 24 in Dec).


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Didn't Bevo start jerking him around in 2023 as well.

Seriously getting players out of Bevo's hands will do them wonders if they aren't his fav's.

 

[PremiershipNo4]

Has anyone had any further tidbits of information re Carlton's Jack Carroll?
Out of Contract, 15 games this year, left footer, good skills and footy IQ, still only 21 years of age, with I believe good upside, tough to crack into Carltons midfield.
What would a trade look like if SEN Peter Vlahos is correct that he might be looking for a trade back to WA?

I would certainly hope WC are having those discussions, and I’m almost certain they would be, exactly the sort of player we should be looking at.

 

[twce13]

Jack Macrae wants out. def not what we need imo tho.

Another Dog wants out: Gun midfielder requests trade

Jack Macrae has told the Bulldogs he is seeking a trade

www.afl.com.au

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Macrae wants out as well.

 

[illegaleagle]

Has anyone had any further tidbits of information re Carlton's Jack Carroll?
Out of Contract, 15 games this year, left footer, good skills and footy IQ, still only 21 years of age, with I believe good upside, tough to crack into Carltons midfield.
What would a trade look like if SEN Peter Vlahos is correct that he might be looking for a trade back to WA?

doesnt have good skills, hes a poor kick like a duggan

 

[mat11]

I value our current 2nd round pick 23 on draft night to be around pick 28. At 28 it's sort of in the middle of nowhere and i think we can leverage it better (if peatling/baker cant be traded with first imo). If adelaide can land Cummings for nothing they'd prob be more than happy to take our pick 3 and give us their pick 25 to move up one spot assuming they are keen on draper.

Crows= 3
Wce= 4 + 25

Play hard ball and get Hawks 13 and f1 for Barass, and we agree to pay Tom's 3 remaining years out.

Hawks= Barass
WCE= 13 + Hawks f1

Instead of GC getting rioli they get Noble at a significantly lower price and still get the running half back flanker. 23 + 25 similar point index to pick 6 and we chuck in Hawks f1 which will be very appealing to GC. At pick 6 rioli is terribly overated, we can get them the same points plus the future first tied to Hawks.

GC get= 23(WCE) + 25(adelaide) + hawks f1
Wce get= pick 6

WCE= lose 3(draper) and Barass
WCE= goes to the draft with 4, 6, 13, 59

Add a couple more 4th rounders from petch or darling to bring in a kpb and malakai

 

[archiemoses]

Macrae can play that defensive role. Has three years left and we could take that contract on for a pick

 

[Convocation]

doesnt have good skills, hes a poor kick like a duggan

Thanks for your opinion, obviously lost all his skill when he entered the AFL

Jack Carroll Draft Profile

central.rookieme.com

While still quite light, the smooth moving left-footer has terrific poise and provides great value going forward with his skill execution on the move
Carroll is particularly effective by foot, as he can hit targets with ease on his favoured left side and open up the game on the end of carving moves out of congestion. He is the kind of player who you want to be delivering the ball inside 50, as he is often able to lower his eyes and hit-up leading targets.

 

[Coasters7]

Conversely. they were 1-6 to start the season, went 13-3 (2 of those loses were by 2 points and 1 point) to end the season, and have now won a final.

Maybe they are just good.

Have had a fair bit go their way though. Not really many injuries to key players during the season.

Really curious to see how they finish the year because they still lack some genuinely elite players and are getting by on system and team mentality, which is sometimes enough to be fair, but falls apart when you get figured out and your player quality gets exposed.

More often than not you’ll run into an equally well drilled side that have more match winners.

Still think they regress next year.

 

[Dark Sharks]

H.Brayshaw - Delisted from WCE, wins Sandover.

C.England - Delisted from WCE, wins Sandover.

B.Ainsworth:

 

[ziad]

H.Brayshaw - Delisted from WCE, wins Sandover.

C.England - Delisted from WCE, wins Sandover.

B.Ainsworth:

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Says a lot about the standard within the WAFL

 

[JackOutback]

2025 Sandover medallist Zane Trew, come on down.

 

[THE A5]

Jacko Nelson returning in 2025 from his Knee injury to claim the next 5 Sandovers

 

[Keys]

Hawthorn reportedly have plenty of cap space so suggestions that we might be able to improve our trade return by paying some of TB’s salary aren’t likely to eventuate

They’ll be wanting to keep as much of their draft hand intact as possible and have no need to dilute it to gain cap space they don’t need

If we somehow manage to get their R1 and F1 without anything going back we’ll have done brilliantly

The minimum we should get is their R1 plus 30 or F2 so anything short of that would be disappointing

 

[illegaleagle]

Thanks for your opinion, obviously lost all his skill when he entered the AFL

Jack Carroll Draft Profile

central.rookieme.com

While still quite light, the smooth moving left-footer has terrific poise and provides great value going forward with his skill execution on the move
Carroll is particularly effective by foot, as he can hit targets with ease on his favoured left side and open up the game on the end of carving moves out of congestion. He is the kind of player who you want to be delivering the ball inside 50, as he is often able to lower his eyes and hit-up leading targets.

Have you seen him play for Carlton, he has a very awkward kicking action and seems to favour the handball. He Doesnt look like a player that will improve our squad much. He was around pick 40 in his draft and can see why wasn't taken early as he doesnt seem that good or any better than what we already have and players we are likely to delist.