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  • List Manager Matt Clarke appeared on Gettable - Click spoiler below for summary
    On the draft: "We predicted that the draft was strong, but it's probably gotten stronger during the year."

    On top end of draft: "You could probably make five or six different choices and get it right."

    On Pick 3: "I reckon there's five (players) around that mark."

    On splitting: "I think you want to hold an early selection if you can. The depth of this group allows you to maybe have some movement there, and see what you can do to bring in more talent in the first 20-25 picks. Easier said than done, and I think most clubs would be saying the same thing. We'll see what we can do."

    On Liam Baker: "He's still yet to make a decision. They're still weighing up a few things. We'd love to get Liam on board from what he offers from a talent and leadership point of view. We understand where we're at as a group, we're rebuilding our group, we need to add some guys in the middle tier to support our young group."

    On Jack Graham: "We've got a number of players that we're speaking to. A bit of a wait and see on that one as well. We'll talk to a number of guys."

    On Shai Bolton: "I think it will be difficult for anybody, really. He's heavily contracted and a high quality player."

    On James Peatling: "He's heavily involved in a finals series at the moment so I don't want to comment too much on it, but I think there's a number of guys that have been playing really good footy this year that could suit what we do and what other clubs do. He's taken his footy to another level this year."

    On Tom Barrass: "We've had an early discussion with Hawthorn about it, they understand where we're at. He's nominated Hawthorn as his ideal destination. We want what we think he's worth, as a genuine key back in the competition that can do what he can do. We're obviously mindful of getting an appropriate deal for West Coast."

    On Tom Clurey: "Maybe (note: sounded very non enthused). We'd probably need some key back depth, whether that's through the draft or trade and free agency."

    On Jack Darling: "We've had initial discussions with his management group about (moving). We're open to talking, as we are with all of our players, but Jack's contracted with us."

    On Liam Ryan: "I expect him to be at West Coast next year, yes." (The most definitive answer of the day by a mile, a non-starter of a talking point.)

    On out of contact players e.g. Rotham, Witherden, Jones: "We're still working through what it looks like from a list point of view, and how many selections we'll want to have, and players that may come in and potentially may go out. You might want to give a coach an opportunity to look at these guys."

    On Harley Reid: "We've had discussions most of the year with his management group. I think it sits in a really good place. We're open to doing really whatever they want to do to be honest. We're really confident in building the right system around Harley, on and off field, to make sure that he's really comfortable, that he's going to play his best footy, and his long term future."

    On Jake Waterman's new deal: "Yep, really close. We're working really closely with his management on that. I expect that we'll have something done pretty soon."

    On Oscar Allen: "We've been talking with Oscar and his manager most of the year on that one. We're going through some stuff at the moment. I think we'll be ok with that one."







 
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Apparently the West Coast is desperate for L.Baker as it will struggle to meet minimum spend next year if Barrass leaves and other possible recruits don't eventuate.

Getting the feeling that the club will pay above value here to ensure that doesn't occur.
Can't we up Harleys rookie contract for next two years as a show of good faith
 

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Can't we up Harleys rookie contract for next two years as a show of good faith

Nope, not allowed.

For the top 20 draftees who now have 3 year contracts there’s scope to increase the 3rd year contract to avoid players being underpaid

Increases are linked to things like B&F finishes, rising star nominations, AA representation and Brownlow votes

But only 3rd year and not in amounts that would make much difference to the salary cap
 
Apparently the West Coast is desperate for L.Baker as it will struggle to meet minimum spend next year if Barrass leaves and other possible recruits don't eventuate.

Getting the feeling that the club will pay above value here to ensure that doesn't occur.

Surely we can manipulate things if we need to.

Barrass let’s say he is on $800k (reportedly less, hence he is leaving), cap is just under $18m next year, so floor is around $17m.

If we need to find away to spend an extra $700k ($100k would already be paid to a draftee) we could absolutely front load Waterman, Yeo, Hough, Ryan, Duggan, Ginbey. Plus cap trade for better picks (Barrass and Darling - I.e pay some of their wage next year).

Fairly certain we’ll get at least 1, and likely 2-4 FA or trade targets also. But even looking at our contracts it is a grim list on how we meet the salary floor 25/26 (27 I think there may be a contract or two that will bump us up!)


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Good call, one year extension for Coen.

This was pretty much expected with no NGA prospects this year besides Champion so Livingstone can remain on the Cat B list with Dewar for another season
 
This was pretty much expected with no NGA prospects this year besides Champion so Livingstone can remain on the Cat B list with Dewar for another season
I have already had enough of Matt Clarke. What can he see in a 199cm guy who cant win a hitout in the WAFL and cant play around the ground. We needed a list manager more than a coach and we have gone from bad to worse with this ken doll
 

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I have already had enough of Matt Clarke. What can he see in a 199cm guy who cant win a hitout in the WAFL and cant play around the ground. We needed a list manager more than a coach and we have gone from bad to worse with this ken doll

Over react much?

Livingstone was always going to be a slow burn as an 18 year ruck/forward and he may very well not make it as Alesana has pointed out

But he’s a free hit. We have no one to replace him with on the Cat B rookie list so if we delisted him we’d go into next year with a 43 man squad instead of 44. Might as well keep him on the list to help our WAFL team and see if he comes on

Further, because he’s a Cat B rookie his salary is totally outside the salary cap

Posters are squawking in other threads about missing Humphries as a NGA of ours - we’re doing with Livingstone what we arguably should’ve done with Humphries

Early call but can't see Livingstone making it

Maybe not but he’s the definition of a free hit for now. There’s no downside to keeping him on the list for 2025
 
You should see their comments over on the D&T board...

Waterman and Allen to be shipped off for 3rd and 4th rounders. Sack Yeo, etc.

Clear troll IMO.

No way they're not authentic West Coast - it's even in their name!
 
You should see their comments over on the D&T board...

Waterman and Allen to be shipped off for 3rd and 4th rounders. Sack Yeo, etc.

Clear troll IMO.
Not what I said, Allen for a future fourth yes, but Waterman would be a late first if he wants to go. I don't rate Allen at all, struts around with his bumb out like a private schooler at assembly and then plays like its a game of markers up.
 
Over react much?

Livingstone was always going to be a slow burn as an 18 year ruck/forward and he may very well not make it as Alesana has pointed out

But he’s a free hit. We have no one to replace him with on the Cat B rookie list so if we delisted him we’d go into next year with a 43 man squad instead of 44. Might as well keep him on the list to help our WAFL team and see if he comes on

Further, because he’s a Cat B rookie his salary is totally outside the salary cap

Posters are squawking in other threads about missing Humphries as a NGA of ours - we’re doing with Livingstone what we arguably should’ve done with Humphries



Maybe not but he’s the definition of a free hit for now. There’s no downside to keeping him on the list for 2025
So you would encourage a bumb to hang around your workplace because they aren't costing anything.
 
So you would encourage a bumb to hang around your workplace because they aren't costing anything.

Well I’m letting your dumb bumb hang around here

For now
 
Not what I said, Allen for a future fourth yes, but Waterman would be a late first if he wants to go. I don't rate Allen at all, struts around with his bumb out like a private schooler at assembly and then plays like its a game of markers up.
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