List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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  • List Manager Matt Clarke appeared on Gettable - Click spoiler below for summary
    On the draft: "We predicted that the draft was strong, but it's probably gotten stronger during the year."

    On top end of draft: "You could probably make five or six different choices and get it right."

    On Pick 3: "I reckon there's five (players) around that mark."

    On splitting: "I think you want to hold an early selection if you can. The depth of this group allows you to maybe have some movement there, and see what you can do to bring in more talent in the first 20-25 picks. Easier said than done, and I think most clubs would be saying the same thing. We'll see what we can do."

    On Liam Baker: "He's still yet to make a decision. They're still weighing up a few things. We'd love to get Liam on board from what he offers from a talent and leadership point of view. We understand where we're at as a group, we're rebuilding our group, we need to add some guys in the middle tier to support our young group."

    On Jack Graham: "We've got a number of players that we're speaking to. A bit of a wait and see on that one as well. We'll talk to a number of guys."

    On Shai Bolton: "I think it will be difficult for anybody, really. He's heavily contracted and a high quality player."

    On James Peatling: "He's heavily involved in a finals series at the moment so I don't want to comment too much on it, but I think there's a number of guys that have been playing really good footy this year that could suit what we do and what other clubs do. He's taken his footy to another level this year."

    On Tom Barrass: "We've had an early discussion with Hawthorn about it, they understand where we're at. He's nominated Hawthorn as his ideal destination. We want what we think he's worth, as a genuine key back in the competition that can do what he can do. We're obviously mindful of getting an appropriate deal for West Coast."

    On Tom Clurey: "Maybe (note: sounded very non enthused). We'd probably need some key back depth, whether that's through the draft or trade and free agency."

    On Jack Darling: "We've had initial discussions with his management group about (moving). We're open to talking, as we are with all of our players, but Jack's contracted with us."

    On Liam Ryan: "I expect him to be at West Coast next year, yes." (The most definitive answer of the day by a mile, a non-starter of a talking point.)

    On out of contact players e.g. Rotham, Witherden, Jones: "We're still working through what it looks like from a list point of view, and how many selections we'll want to have, and players that may come in and potentially may go out. You might want to give a coach an opportunity to look at these guys."

    On Harley Reid: "We've had discussions most of the year with his management group. I think it sits in a really good place. We're open to doing really whatever they want to do to be honest. We're really confident in building the right system around Harley, on and off field, to make sure that he's really comfortable, that he's going to play his best footy, and his long term future."

    On Jake Waterman's new deal: "Yep, really close. We're working really closely with his management on that. I expect that we'll have something done pretty soon."

    On Oscar Allen: "We've been talking with Oscar and his manager most of the year on that one. We're going through some stuff at the moment. I think we'll be ok with that one."







 
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After going back on a handshake deal for a contract increase, the Eagles should double down and go back on a handshake trade for Tommy, just for shits and giggles.
 

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Surely now even the Victorian media can't twist themselves into saying Barrass is worth Hawthorn's 1st round pick.

And it seems to confirm that Scott Burns and Sam Mitchell's time with us helped a bit towards the 2018 Premiership.
 
Surely we can manipulate things if we need to.
You can renegotiate most players salary, bringing money forward. It really opens up the salary cap in future years.

You could pay Harley $2 mil in his fourth season, and still be $4 mil under the cap.
Barrass let’s say he is on $800k (reportedly less, hence he is leaving), cap is just under $18m next year, so floor is around $17m.

If we need to find away to spend an extra $700k ($100k would already be paid to a draftee) we could absolutely front load Waterman, Yeo, Hough, Ryan, Duggan, Ginbey. Plus cap trade for better picks (Barrass and Darling - I.e pay some of their wage next year).

Fairly certain we’ll get at least 1, and likely 2-4 FA or trade targets also. But even looking at our contracts it is a grim list on how we meet the salary floor 25/26 (27 I think there may be a contract or two that will bump us up!)


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Tell Hawthorn we want a top 10 pick and let them work out the how
Pretty much this. Barrass is contracted so it’s up to them to make it worth it for us. We don’t simply just get whatever pick they end up with this year. That’s the vibe I get from the Eagles’ statement from when Barrass requested his trade anyway.
 

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If hawks pick is 14-18 I’d be chucking a f2 with Barass and asking for them to give us ward and their first.

Then I’d bundle 3+ hawks f1 and hope that’s enough to trade for an uncontracted Liam baker.

Actually though I’d hope we pick Draper and then travaglia, Lindsay or berry.

Would also pick up Jack Avery in rookie draft for key position depth he’s still young I rate him better than a bazzo.

Barnett for soldo would be nice

Overpay peatling get him over here

23 for baker I guess but would rather walk him through psd

Try and upgrade on our worst 10 players that’s where the improvement will come from



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Dodging that Tim English bullet, lads. Jesus Christ.
 
Pretty much this. Barrass is contracted so it’s up to them to make it worth it for us. We don’t simply just get whatever pick they end up with this year. That’s the vibe I get from the Eagles’ statement from when Barrass requested his trade anyway.
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For all the teeth gnashing, if Hawthorn lose to Port next week then it’s pick 13 instead of 12 so not a huge difference


*Yes, I’m aware it’s a big if
 
For all the teeth gnashing, if Hawthorn lose to Port next week then it’s pick 13 instead of 12 so not a huge difference


*Yes, I’m aware it’s a big if
Unless Carlton beat the Lions and then lose to Swans/GWS, then it’s 14. Either way I think we’re out of Travaglia territory now unfortunately.
Tell Hawthorn we want a top 10 pick and let them work out the how
Unless we do this, which we should otherwise it’s R1 and F1. From memory Freo told GCS they would accept a top 5 pick for Weller. GCS couldn’t trade down and ended up handing over pick 2. Plenty of other Vic suitors we should absolutely hold firm.
 
Unless Carlton beat the Lions and then lose to Swans/GWS, then it’s 14. Either way I think we’re out of Travaglia territory now unfortunately.

Unless we do this, which we should otherwise it’s R1 and F1. From memory Freo told GCS they would accept a top 5 pick for Weller. GCS couldn’t trade down and ended up handing over pick 2. Plenty of other Vic suitors we should absolutely hold firm.
Bombers pick 8 and 28? They might have a cap squeeze though.

Saints 7 and 24.

Dogs (cats R1 Bayley smith compo) Garcia and buzz for barrass and 40(darling trade)

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