List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

[Keys]

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• Player contract status
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• AFL retirements and delistings
• Provisional 2025 Draft order

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[ep2018]

No chance we get two first rounders for Barrass. Hawks will not offer it even if they win the flag, they'd sooner walk away.

 

[Bacchus]

Barnett is so bad that his form this year is on par with what he produced as an 18 year old. Hope for him and us he comes on but going to he a massive **** up if he produces shite next season. In fact next year he would need a massive year where he starts dominating at wafl level so we can justify keeping him on the list.

At this stage Barnett looks like a dumber and less athletic version of Bailey Williams

Another ROB special spud, plenty of them around.

 

[eaglespremiers]

Another ROB special spud, plenty of them around.

I don't think that's fair.
Barnett was the stand out underage ruck in 2022 just as much as Dodson is this year.
If people are now writing him off (which IMO is still too early to do) I think that's more down to development rather than the selection at the time he was drafted.

 

[random260]

So if Hawks lose next round can we get pick 14 for barrass that's still good.

Any pick above 14 just ride the to the grand final because then they will offer future pick f1

 

[eaglevision]

If Brisbane progress this week, and Hawks lose to Port, Hawks finish 6th no matter who wins out of Bris v GWS/Swans next week.
So Hawks get 13, loser of Bris vs GWS/Swans gets 14

Agreed but I said if Carlton win, not Brisbane. So if Hawks and Brisbane both then lost next week Hawks would finish 5th (pick 14) and Carlton would finish 6th (pick 13).

 

[mattyc75]

If hawks pick is 14-18 I’d be chucking a f2 with Barass and asking for them to give us ward and their first.

Then I’d bundle 3+ hawks f1 and hope that’s enough to trade for an uncontracted Liam baker

7

Liam Baker

Age

26

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

222.2

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

191.9

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

224.2

4star

.

Actually though I’d hope we pick Draper and then travaglia, Lindsay or berry.

Would also pick up Jack Avery in rookie draft for key position depth he’s still young I rate him better than a bazzo.

Barnett for soldo would be nice

Overpay peatling get him over here

23 for baker I guess but would rather walk him through psd

Try and upgrade on our worst 10 players that’s where the improvement will come from



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[mattyc75]

Two of those are delist material. I really don’t care ir Ryan leaves or stays and Bailey can stay till we can find a semi competent ruckmen

We can draft a state leaguer to replace him if we don't trade anyone in.

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[AsterixTheGaul]

Clean slate for Pyke and Clarke currently but the Barrass outcome will be their first really important and measurable footy KPI. It’s an opportunity to get an important trading win for the club with a sought after player in contract. Freo have shown what can be achieved by being difficult negotiators with the Schultz and Weller trades. I’m looking forward to seeing how the new guys play this.

Not sure you want us to be what Freo have done. Yes they got 2 for Weller but they have also lost Acres, Neal, Hill, Henry, Lobb and Logue by playing hard arses. They extracted good currency on a couple but ended up coughing up too much with Hogan.

The sense was we were weak with Brockman and overpaid the Hawks because we are soft at the table. Let’s see how it goes with the Hawks on Barrass this year.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Dodged a massive bullet with English.

Do need to resolve the Bailey Williams issue given he’s a shit version of English.

 

[bombard]

Is it actually trade 'week', or have the no brains trust at the AFL finally just done what they've clearly always wanted for some reason, and turned it into Trade Month?

Trade Epoch.

 

[shooshka]

No chance we get two first rounders for Barrass. Hawks will not offer it even if they win the flag, they'd sooner walk away.

Fine. We have a 3 year contract with Barrass.

13/14 on its own won’t cut it. When it was looking 8-10 it was borderline, they need to add substantially to it now.




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[amazingjoshy]

Geez didn't we dodge a bullet with English. I was very keen on picking him up, happy to admit I was wrong. 206cm and gets bodied easily. No idea what has happened to him.

Nothing happened, he's always been like this. He just racks up alot of cheap ball (which I'm not sure you want a ruck doing) so people see the possie stats and think he's a good ruck

 

[Quinz]

The closer the Hawks get the feel that Barrass is the missing piece will rise, and the more they will pay.

I think we get 2 first rounders and Lance Piachone

 

[Tugga27]

I reckon the Hawks will win it this year.

I'm with Keys.
Tell them we want pick 10 and its up to them how the do it.

If they can't, shop him around for the best deal.

 

[mat11]

I reckon the Hawks will win it this year.

I'm with Keys.
Tell them we want pick 10 and its up to them how the do it.

If they can't, shop him around for the best deal.

Turning barass into a high pick is pretty easy as long as you have good relationships with other clubs.

Essendon have a very good nga prospect and a horrible draft hand.

Essendon give 8
Essendon receive 13 + 31(barass deal)

They move back 5 spots but get extra points for kako. Westcoast get a chance to draft a top tier player still.

Westcoast go to the draft with 3, 8, 23, 59

 

[Schtinker]

And it seems to confirm that Scott Burns and Sam Mitchell's time with us helped a bit towards the 2018 Premiership.

More Mitchell than Simmo if you ask me.

 

[Elite Pete]

Turning barass into a high pick is pretty easy as long as you have good relationships with other clubs.

Essendon have a very good nga prospect and a horrible draft hand.

Essendon give 8
Essendon receive 13 + 31(barass deal)

They move back 5 spots but get extra points for kako. Westcoast get a chance to draft a top tier player still.

Westcoast go to the draft with 3, 8, 23, 59

TB would want to have to go to that club and that club would want to have to give him the contract he wants.

There is talk the Dons want out of this draft due to the Kako situation if they can’t trade up. So it would be on the Hawks to trade up to the Dons pick if that is the case

 

[DanWCE]

More Mitchell than Simmo if you ask me.

Hickmont too?

 

[Elite Pete]

Surely now even the Victorian media can't twist themselves into saying Barrass is worth Hawthorn's 1st round pick.

And it seems to confirm that Scott Burns and Sam Mitchell's time with us helped a bit towards the 2018 Premiership.

Of course they helped.

Don’t forget Simmo did get us to the 2015 GF and Mitchell wasn’t at the club. He came in and got the skill level up and implemented a game plan that no one was really doing.

New coach should bring new standards and new game plan and that will help a lot. Along with drafting the best young talent in the land and recruiting players that fit a need. Those players are out there just need the list manager to identify them and get them to want to come. Money shouldn’t be an issue with our cap situation.

Hawks missed out on a lot of their targets last year as it wasn’t seen a destination club. 12 months on now they have 2 and maybe a 3 one on the hook. 2 of them only cost salary cap.

 

[mat11]

TB would want to have to go to that club and that club would want to have to give him the contract he wants.

There is talk the Dons want out of this draft due to the Kako situation if they can’t trade up. So it would be on the Hawks to trade up to the Dons pick if that is the case

My ideal scenario:

-Tb goes to hawks
-Hawks give 1st and 2nd (13 + 31)
-West coast offer 13 + 31 as a live bid on draft night 1 to Essendon

Essendon get pick 13 and kako (Without WCE Essendon would have kako and pick 28)

 

[random260]

So now western bulldogs are out of finals and have a first I think


What's with TB and bullies? Do they still want TB

 

[amazingjoshy]

So now western bulldogs are out of finals and have a first I think


What's with TB and bullies? Do they still want TB

Think there's a fair chance they still make a play for him (though not sure they have much cap space)

Rory Lobb can't be their permanent answer down back. But also...Bevo so who knows

 

[Hillsy13]

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He could he’s taller than Sicily. Also think he’d be better than witho and rotham types


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[pantskyle]

If im the dogs I'm upping my offer to Barrass.

 

[ArdentEagle]

Worpel is the Hawks 2nd best mid. Go get a couple of mids that will crack in and have some upside (Peatling and Garcia). Plus pick 3 + 13*

Coach to get accountability.

Last two finals proved it’s not all about the ceilings of players but also players that will do a job and play a role. Hawks list is far less superior to the Dogs on talent but well drilled, belief, generally playing team first and having dip. (Foot skills helped as well)

What hurts even more is 3/4 of this board wanted Worpel at his pick, of course ROB and his team went for Ainsworth and the rest is jistory.

Martin, Humphries, Worpel, Kelly (should have been taken first time rather than traded for), Richards instead of Brander - We were very lucky to still get Allen.

It goes on and on