List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

[Keys]

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[MCMUFFIN]

Yeah not wrong, it's probably worst case scenario, but also not exactly far fetched either.

With Hawthorn on a successful run most clubs can only dream of and pushing hard into finals.. it could be the gap between how much they want/need Barrass and our asking price just widens.

It's not like them being successful should suddenly change what we're willing to part with our contracted vice captain for.



That said, if it does pan out that he stays, with our lame draft hand we'd have to really get creative with building our list. Moneyball approach. Got cash spare but no picks.

Get that moron Dev over for a late pick for starters, then see what teams are squeezed for salary and see if we can take a player plus a pick off someone, ala Bowes to Geelong.

Other than that, we'd have to just focus on what DFA's are available.

Man if we could snag a salary dump a team for a Pick and player like Geelong did would be mint, still irks me that they snagged that trade and only sent back a 3rd rounder, classic Gold Coast mismanagement.
We'll probably have to ask Brisbane about Dev again, hopefully go after few more stop gap players, we're notoriously quiet on who we are chasing which is good, keeps the media muppets at bay somewhat but sucks that we're kept in the dark prior or even during trade week.
Agreed need to somehow Moneyball some trades to get us rolling again, Hawks have pretty much done it with some trade ins and late picks, watching them last night hoping if we don't balls up the upcoming trade periods/ player development and all facets we will be on the same trajectory.

 

[eaglesnutcase]

English in action

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Think you’re getting Burns muddled up with Hickmott

Scott Burns applied for the senior coaching position in 2013 being an assistant at the club under Worsfold. Left after missing the job so never worked with Simpson

Hickmott was the backline coach in 2015 who helped with the Weagles Web and was then midfield coach in 2018.

Mitchell was a first year midfield development coach in 2018

Could've sworn Mitchell was stoppages and something else.

 

[Dale Doback]

We need to target mids who run hard each way. TK and Yeo are witches hats after turnovers. Ditto Reid who's a kid and should be excused. Baker has the dog in him, works his ass off to win the ball back. He'd be a great get for culture alone. Could be the best option for the Barrass pick.
If Sydney get the flag and The Chad wants to return throw the sink. I'd do 3 and our future 1st in a heartbeat and assume we'll be challenging the 8 next year with him and Baker on board. No guarantees any of these kids are ever going to operate like he can. I'd play the long game via the draft too but at this stage we need results now.

 

[BartBart]

Think you’re getting Burns muddled up with Hickmott

Scott Burns applied for the senior coaching position in 2013 being an assistant at the club under Worsfold. Left after missing the job so never worked with Simpson

Hickmott was the backline coach in 2015 who helped with the Weagles Web and was then midfield coach in 2018.

Mitchell was a first year midfield development coach in 2018

Could be... I thought Burns was the one who came up with the style of playof controlling the ball with accurate kick/marks & when we didn't have the ball putting pressure with zoning (the "web")... but am happy to admit I could be mistaken.

 

[Elite Pete]

Next week might be telling. Do Garcia and Carroll ask for trades? And if so do they nominate a club

 

[BartBart]

Been thinking today that I would be happy if every draft pick this year is a midfielder with only trades in being top 25% mids.

We've neglected the midfield for so long that if we need to overdo it this year to try and return some semblance of a balance to the squad, then so be it.

 

[bzparkes]

Could be... I thought Burns was the one who came up with the style of playof controlling the ball with accurate kick/marks & when we didn't have the ball putting pressure with zoning (the "web")... but am happy to admit I could be mistaken.

It was Hickmott who came up with the 'web'.

Schofield explained it a few weeks ago on his pod.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Next week might be telling. Do Garcia and Carroll ask for trades? And if so do they nominate a club

Don't know how 2 players who are out of contract and no guarantee of getting another one ask for a trade and nominate a club .

Carroll may end up delisted

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

imagine if we didn't have our 1st this year because curtin was sitting in our wafl side right now

Thank god adelaide saved us from ourselves and half of this board

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Matt Kennedy looked very annoyed on the bench. Not the first time they have messed around with him as the sub/or subbed him out.

Would we go after him if he was available?
Off field he's a bit of a God botherer

Played every game for them, in every position. Raced to the game from the birth of his kid yesterday.

Subbed after 40 minutes because the game had imploded and Vossy had to get another ruckman on.

You’d be ropable. Probably ends up being nothing but could be an interesting flashpoint.

 

[Dale Doback]

Thank god adelaide saved us from ourselves and half of this board

I wouldn't turn the page on Curtin yet. He's better than any big bodied mid in this draft with his leg and composure.

 

[Dark Sharks]

Dev with 34D and 11 clearances in the VFL. He's played 2 AFL games all year, with the last being in round 3.

Meanwhile Lions are about to add Levi Ashcroft (Academy's - Listen to Brizkents podcast if you'd like to learn about them) kicking him even further down the pecking order.

He was supposedly "stuck behind Jarrod Lyons" and that's why he couldn't lock down an AFL gig, only Lyons is also stuck playing VFL with him, so there you go.

Still another year left on his contract but we'd be absolutely mad not trying to get him in.

 

[Dale Doback]

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Played every game for them, in every position. Raced to the game from the birth of his kid yesterday.

Subbed after 40 minutes because the game had imploded and Vossy had to get another ruckman on.

You’d be ropable. Probably ends up being nothing but could be an interesting flashpoint.

Too slow to go with Brisbane's mids around the park. We've got 2 of them already in Yeo and TK.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Dev with 34D and 11 clearances in the VFL. He's played 2 AFL games all year, with the last being in round 3.

Meanwhile Lions are about to add Levi Ashcroft (Academy's - Listen to Brizkents podcast if you'd like to learn about them) kicking him even further down the pecking order.

He was supposedly "stuck behind Jarrod Lyons" and that's why he couldn't lock down an AFL gig, only Lyons is also stuck playing VFL with him, so there you go.

Still another year left on his contract but we'd be absolutely mad not trying to get him in.

I see more upside with him over Graham.

 

[Keys]

I see more upside with him over Graham.

No reason why we can’t have both

Graham is a FA and Brisbane would probably be happy with Robertson off their books so a late pick this year or next likely gets it done

Both would be an improvement to the likes of Trew, Edwards or Culley through the midfield

 

[Dale Doback]

No reason why we can’t have both

Graham is a FA and Brisbane would probably be happy with Robertson off their books so a late pick this year or next likely gets it done

Both would be an improvement to the likes of Trew, Edwards or Culley through the ter watching Hawthorn reboot the clinical ball movement from the Clarkson era against the dogs, where does Robertson fit in to that?

I never rated Priddis for the same reason. Yeah you got the ball all day, but what happened when you got it?

Dev with 34D and 11 clearances in the VFL. He's played 2 AFL games all year, with the last being in round 3.

Meanwhile Lions are about to add Levi Ashcroft (Academy's - Listen to Brizkents podcast if you'd like to learn about them) kicking him even further down the pecking order.

He was supposedly "stuck behind Jarrod Lyons" and that's why he couldn't lock down an AFL gig, only Lyons is also stuck playing VFL with him, so there you go.

Still another year left on his contract but we'd be absolutely mad not trying to get him in.

Yeah but who is he replacing?

 

[BartBart]

I never rated Priddis for the same reason. Yeah you got the ball all day, but what happened when you got it?

Yeah but who is he replacing?

Priddis racked up 10+ tackles a game quite often.

 

[Goomba1973]

Jon Ralph is stating that our pick 3 in return for Liam Baker

7

Liam Baker

Age

26

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

222.2

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

191.9

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

224.2

4star

and a top 10 pick is on the table. I think this is an awful idea , essentially we would be helping Richmond rebuild faster than we would be helping ourselves by handing them picks 1 and 3 . Having Baker would be nice but not at the cost of missing out on missing out on a Finn O'Sullivan , Sid Draper or Jagga Smith. We split our pick 2 a few years back for Ginbey and Hewett and the Jury is still out on that deal ( could have had Harry Sheezle). Maybe at best give them pick 23 this year or WC apply for an end of first round assistance pick and give them that ? ...... Thoughts ?

 

[Goomba1973]

Priddis racked up 10+ tackles a game quite often.

And routinely hit an outside runner with a laser like handball. Next to Diesel Williams , Priddis was the best handballer I have ever seen.

 

[Dale Doback]

Priddis racked up 10+ tackles a game quite often.

Yeah fair call. Worked his ass off. But couldn't go with anyone on the spread. Shuey got the tag because he was the most dangerous ball in hand. He was elite in transition.

 

[Broken_Chairs]

Jon Ralph is stating that our pick 3 in return for Liam Baker and a top 10 pick is on the table. I think this is an awful idea , essentially we would be helping Richmond rebuild faster than we would be helping ourselves by handing them picks 1 and 3 . Having Baker would be nice but not at the cost of missing out on missing out on a Finn O'Sullivan , Sid Draper or Jagga Smith. We split our pick 2 a few years back for Ginbey and Hewett and the Jury is still out on that deal ( could have had Harry Sheezle). Maybe at best give them pick 23 this year or WC apply for an end of first round assistance pick and give them that ? ...... Thoughts ?

Depends on how we rate the top 10 - if we consider it to be fairly even, then I imagine we'd look at it closely.

 

[Dale Doback]

And routinely hit an outside runner with a laser like handball. Next to Diesel Williams , Priddis was the best handballer I have ever seen.

He was. But the game has moved on. Too slow to impact away from the contest.

 

[darksquare]

We need a ruckman who can win hitouts. How about that bloke who got 82 for East Perth today?


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[Keys]

We need a ruckman who can win hitouts. How about that bloke who got 82 for East Perth today?


On iPhone using BigFooty.com mobile app

There are lampposts more mobile than Scott Jones

Great WAFL ruck but not mobile enough for AFL