List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Won't matter to them, those motherfu*kers legit build teams through 2nd, 3rd and 4th rounders, heck even rookie drafts.

They won't be crippled for the next 10 years with the way they operate.

Absolute peak list management, talent identification and development.

And the ability to offer Victorian travel fixtures with country living .

Until they are made to play all their home games at kardynia Park it will be an unfair advantage

 

[archiemoses]

HUN write up today on Carlton stating their list needs

View attachment 2106016

Would we be able to meet 2 of their needs with Petch and Ryan with 2 years salary paid for pick 11?

I believe Carlton had interest in Petch a year or so ago.

Why would Carlton want Petch when they have Cottrell who's basically the same player.

 

[Lyyynnnchy]

HUN write up today on Carlton stating their list needs

View attachment 2106016

Would we be able to meet 2 of their needs with Petch and Ryan with 2 years salary paid for pick 11?

I believe Carlton had interest in Petch a year or so ago.

lol, not a chance. Petch isnt worth a thing

I love how all our supporters get up in arms about what Richmond are asking for Baker, yet we offer things like Ryan and Petch fir 11

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

lol, not a chance. Petch isnt worth a thing

I love how all our supporters get up in arms about what Richmond are asking for Baker, yet we offer things like Ryan and Petch fir 11

Read the post
It is Ryan and Petch with their first 2 years salaries paid for by WCE

 

[Tugga27]

Read the post
It is Ryan and Petch with their first 2 years salaries paid for by WCE

Surely there's no indication Ryan wants to leave WA?

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Surely there's no indication Ryan wants to leave WA?

Not sure as his names in mentioned in various media outlet. Smoke and fire!!

 

[Dark Sharks]

Let's not get greedy.

I'd take just Darling leaving and pocketing that pick 40 from Norf even.


Flahn Rahn, Petch, Bailey, Rotham are all pipe dreams IMO.

 

[Obeanie1]

Let's not get greedy.

I'd take just Darling leaving and pocketing that pick 40 from Norf even.


Flahn Rahn, Petch, Bailey, Rotham are all pipe dreams IMO.

Stuff that. If we are dreaming then its:

Liam Ryan and Petrucelle.

For Jack Carroll and Ashton Moir.

If Blues want salary cap help they throw in a F3rd depending on how much.etc.

Blue's load up for 2025.

Eagles look to the future.

 

[ziad]

Not sure as his names in mentioned in various media outlet. Smoke and fire!!

media copies media - the first is a fabrication.

 

[briztoon]

While Tigers are talking tough on Rioli, many would say pick 6 in itself is overs. Tigers will ask for more.

What is more? The Tigers should look at the Doggies R1 that Suns own which is pick 12. Not that Rioli is worth more than 6 but the Tigers be given the chance to buy it off the Suns. Suns need points this year and to move picks into next year. Suns likely to get Crow's F1 for Lukosius (not saying it is just this, only that Suns have said Lukosius trade must include a F1). I am sure the Norf 2nd PP which is currently pick 20 and owned by the Suns would deliver a F1 for them as well.

Pick 12 is worth 1,268 points. Tigers hold their own R2, Freo's R2, their own R3, our R3, Freo's R3 and a possible FA compensation say band 4 for Graham at start of R3. That is over 3,000 points which could used. Obviously not all and Tigers could agree to be the points mule additional picks into the draft for Suns to do on the night.

Suns don't need points this draft. Take away their first 3 picks, and they still have ~1800 points in their 4 later picks. That's enough points to match a bid at pick 3.

 

[WCE_phil]

Suns don't need points this draft. Take away their first 3 picks, and they still have ~1800 points in their 4 later picks. That's enough points to match a bid at pick 3.

This and GC are really only looking to secure 3 things out of this trade and draft period. Lombard and Rioli in and moving points into next years draft.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Suns don't need points this draft. Take away their first 3 picks, and they still have ~1800 points in their 4 later picks. That's enough points to match a bid at pick 3.

Suns will find list spots tight since the added list numbers back to par so all those late picks will only count if the Suns have spots open. Tigers will have loads of spots open

 

[Elite Pete]

This and GC are really only looking to secure 3 things out of this trade and draft period. Lombard and Rioli in and moving points into next years draft.

That’s why Hawks first pick this year and next for TB and F2 makes sense. Can hopefully trade the Hawks F1 to the Bullies tied pick this year.

Picks 3, 12, 13* would be pretty decent hand. Maybe they can even throw over Atkins as a salary dump to help get us over the line from other teams trying to trade in.

 

[Keys]

That’s why Hawks first pick this year and next for TB and F2 makes sense. Can hopefully trade the Hawks F1 to the Bullies tied pick this year.

Picks 3, 12, 13* would be pretty decent hand. Maybe they can even throw over Atkins as a salary dump to help get us over the line from other teams trying to trade in.

Hawthorn win this weekend and it’s getting close to their R1 and F1 with nothing going back for TB.

Maybe our F3 instead of F2

 

[eaglevision]

Hawthorn win this weekend and it’s getting close to their R1 and F1 with nothing going back for TB.

Maybe our F3 instead of F2

I think we’re already there to be honest. Top 5 league KPD contracted for 3 more years going to a contender on an easy 4 + 1 year deal on almost $1m a year.

Even if the Hawks lose, 13 and F1 for Barrass and F3 is the minimum we should accept.

 

[briztoon]

Suns will find list spots tight since the added list numbers back to par so all those late picks will only count if the Suns have spots open. Tigers will have loads of spots open

Suns will go to the draft with the required 4 list spots, upgrade a couple of rookies after matching the bid on Lombard, and then re-sign out of contract Levi Casboult after the draft.

 

[dewcefault]

I think we’re already there to be honest. Top 5 league KPD contracted for 3 more years going to a contender on an easy 4 + 1 year deal on almost $1m a year.

Even if the Hawks lose, 13 and F1 for Barrass and F3 is the minimum we should accept.

agreed, it has to be a token pick back, if anything given the circumstances and the fact that Hawks with TB will be top 4. so two mid/late teen picks is hardly a kings ransom

 

[plays tall 1]

I think we’re already there to be honest. Top 5 league KPD contracted for 3 more years going to a contender on an easy 4 + 1 year deal on almost $1m a year.

Even if the Hawks lose, 13 and F1 for Barrass and F3 is the minimum we should accept.

If we’re looking at 13 and a likely pick around 15-18 next year I don’t see why there should be anything going back the other way.

Forget about the uncertainty of next year’s pick … obviously Hawthorn see themselves very much in the flag window given their trading strategy. That means they expect it to be a very late first rounder in a highly compromised draft.

 

[BartBart]

agreed, it has to be a token pick back, if anything given the circumstances and the fact that Hawks with TB will be top 4. so two mid/late teen picks is hardly a kings ransom

And those 2 picks are pretty much 20 on draft night

 

[maverick001]

Bazlenka for barass straight swap??

I'd do that in a heartbeat

 

[maverick001]

Alex Davies re-signs with Suns

Some of these guys have no brains. Same scenario as dev
davies is behind Flanders, Rowell, Anderson, Miller plus up & coming Humphrey, Rogers, Lombard & W.Graham
Madness

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Hawthorn win this weekend and it’s getting close to their R1 and F1 with nothing going back for TB.

Maybe our F3 instead of F2

Barrass + 23
For hawks 1st + F1 + 30

 

[Lyyynnnchy]

Read the post
It is Ryan and Petch with their first 2 years salaries paid for by WCE

I suppose if Richmond offer to pay Bakers salary for 2 years you’ll be happy to hand over pick 13?

 

[Elite Pete]

Hawthorn win this weekend and it’s getting close to their R1 and F1 with nothing going back for TB.

Maybe our F3 instead of F2

f we get that F1. Eyes should be well and truely on the Doggies pick that’s owned by the Suns. Could be Sid, Berry and Travaglia draft haul. (Maybe even Davis at 23*)

 

[shooshka]

I suppose if Richmond offer to pay Bakers salary for 2 years you’ll be happy to hand over pick 13?

They way our salary cap is looking we may have to pay overs to have them not pay any salary so we can meet the floor

(In case sarcasm isn’t obvious I am not in favour of paying overs or even media ‘fair’ value for Baker).


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