List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

[Keys]

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

I suppose if Richmond offer to pay Bakers salary for 2 years you’ll be happy to hand over pick 13?

Do we have a salary cap issue or are you just being a smartarse?

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Do we rate the sandover medal anymore.?

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[Wooshaaaa]

I think we’re already there to be honest. Top 5 league KPD contracted for 3 more years going to a contender on an easy 4 + 1 year deal on almost $1m a year.

Even if the Hawks lose, 13 and F1 for Barrass and F3 is the minimum we should accept.

I hate the sweetener F3 going back scenario. This just eliminates a pick that in this draft could be a good late slider. They want Barrass they need to figure out a way that only costs us barrass.

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[mat11]

f we get that F1. Eyes should be well and truely on the Doggies pick that’s owned by the Suns. Could be Sid, Berry and Travaglia draft haul. (Maybe even Davis at 23*)

Barass trade for Hawks R1 + F1

Westcoast give- Hawks R1 + F1
Westcoast get- 6
GC give- 6 + Hawks R1
GC get- Rioli + Hawks F1
Rich give- Rioli
Rich get- Hawks R1

Richmond will want more for rioli, stiff shit life's not fair

 

[mat11]

I hate the sweetener F3 going back scenario. This just eliminates a pick that in this draft could be a good late slider. They want Barrass they need to figure out a way that only costs us barrass.

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Absolutely, if Hawks want a contracted player that can pay up. I dont remember Geelong doing any favours with us and tk. It should be Hawks R1 + f1 currently, if they make it the the gf they can chuck in a f4/player also.

 

[KERRPOW]

He is out of contract , coming off an ACL and has outside football interests that can affect his football .

Will be interesting to see what dogs get for him

Lyon talking about geelongs 1st round pick only......so whats that pick 18 ish

 

[Happy Mastenator]

lol. Love the difference in positioning. Apparently Bailey smith

6

Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

is uncontracted so dogs don’t have any leverage…

Tigers won’t be short changed on baker though who is in exactly the same position and a much worse player

 

[Keys]

lol. Love the difference in positioning. Apparently Bailey smith is uncontracted so dogs don’t have any leverage…

Tigers won’t be short changed on baker though who is in exactly the same position and a much worse player

Vic journos always seem quick to point out there’s two clubs in WA when a player asks to be traded back here but have no recollection there’s 10 Victorian clubs

There’s 8 other clubs Smith could be traded to

 

[mattyc75]

Some of these guys have no brains. Same scenario as dev
davies is behind Flanders, Rowell, Anderson, Miller plus up & coming Humphrey, Rogers, Lombard & W.Graham
Madness

Well he's already getting more games than dev

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[JackOutback]

I'd love the Hawks' future first. Their success this year is based around systems, not elite talent. But systems can be worked out, elite talent less so. Would be great to have a pick in the teens this year and see them potentially fall away next year, giving us a strong hand to get Warner and another top 10 pick.

 

[eaglevision]

Their success this year is based around systems, not elite talent. But systems can be worked out, elite talent less so.

Great post, absolutely nailed it. As I said earlier R1 and F1 should now be the minimum. Agree with Wooshaaaa that we shouldn’t be doing any favours but if push comes to shove I’d be ok with giving our F3 back.

 

[Big_Birdy]

I'd love the Hawks' future first. Their success this year is based around systems, not elite talent. But systems can be worked out, elite talent less so. Would be great to have a pick in the teens this year and see them potentially fall away next year, giving us a strong hand to get Warner and another top 10 pick.

Don't forget a bottom 6 draw and unearned home final week 1.

Not that they haven't been good. Not intending to knock them. Can only beat who is put in front of them and the finals rules are the finals rules.

But those are they facts. We will see how they go Friday against the chokers.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Great post, absolutely nailed it. As I said earlier R1 and F1 should now be the minimum. Agree with Wooshaaaa that we shouldn’t be doing any favours but if push comes to shove I’d be ok with giving our F3 back.

or a swap of F2.

Hawks are riding high based on a really good system.

Good coaching groups will work this out a counter offence over the summer and there is a real chance that the hawks come back to earth next season. Still successful but maybe not top 4.

On the other hand, Mitchell might be that good as a coach. If that is the case, the Vic media will likely say that West Coach let another talent slip and we were too slow at promoting him. I expect no mention about the liaison with a certain Embley person that caused home front friction.

 

[Barrybran]

lol. Love the difference in positioning. Apparently Bailey smith is uncontracted so dogs don’t have any leverage…

Tigers won’t be short changed on baker though who is in exactly the same position and a much worse player

I'd take Smith over Rioli, Bolton or Baker. Hell, I'd take Smith over Barrass in some circumstances. Obviously some risk given behaviour and injury lowers his value but he has the highest ceiling of all players mentioned for this trade period.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Don't forget a bottom 6 draw and unearned home final week 1.

Not that they haven't been good. Not intending to knock them. Can only beat who is put in front of them and the finals rules are the finals rules.

But those are they facts. We will see how they go Friday against the chokers.

Conversely. they were 1-6 to start the season, went 13-3 (2 of those loses were by 2 points and 1 point) to end the season, and have now won a final.

Maybe they are just good.

 

[Chris_6678]

Bolton is on 1.1mill according to the rich list.

How are Freo going to afford that? They have a lot of players on big coin.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

or a swap of F2.

Hawks are riding high based on a really good system.

Good coaching groups will work this out a counter offence over the summer and there is a real chance that the hawks come back to earth next season. Still successful but maybe not top 4.

On the other hand, Mitchell might be that good as a coach. If that is the case, the Vic media will likely say that West Coach let another talent slip and we were too slow at promoting him. I expect no mention about the liaison with a certain Embley person that caused home front friction.

I'm angling on trying to get a future first from them as well because at some point a team's gonna figure them out and the league will catch on on how to close them down, coupled with a tougher draw it would be a pretty handy pick. Not that I think they'll miss the 8 next year.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

Bolton is on 1.1mill according to the rich list.

How are Freo going to afford that? They have a lot of players on big coin.

Not only that, BUT then they're getting Warner as well, in addition to re-signing Brayshaw, Serong, Darcy, Luke Jackson, their captain and backline. I didn't know the salary cap was jumping up millions of dollars.

 

[Big_Birdy]

Conversely. they were 1-6 to start the season, went 13-3 (2 of those loses were by 2 points and 1 point) to end the season, and have now won a final.

Maybe they are just good.

Didn’t say they weren’t.

But 11 wins v bottom 8 sides in that group. Only two outside Vic or Tas, v 16th and 15th.

Wins v Top 8 were Blues (with a lot of injuries that got worse during that game, although Hawks were Cleary all over them) and Lions at Marvel (good win)

So certainly not horrible. But very rarely do genuine premiership form lines not involve beating top 4 teams interstate.

They have their chance to do it twice in a row here and good on them for putting themselves in that position.

 

[No Hassle Hough]

It's unfortunate that there is no pick purchasing this year.

There are a number of clubs (Freo, Carlton and Gold Coast?) that may be open to selling a R1 pick (for the right deal - Salary and picks).

 

[KERRPOW]

lol. Love the difference in positioning. Apparently Bailey smith is uncontracted so dogs don’t have any leverage…

Tigers won’t be short changed on baker though who is in exactly the same position and a much worse player

baker should be a pick in the 40's then.

 

[flyinghi64]

Not only that, BUT then they're getting Warner as well, in addition to re-signing Brayshaw, Serong, Darcy, Luke Jackson, their captain and backline. I didn't know the salary cap was jumping up millions of dollars.

Or quality players willing to be paid unders just to be playing for Freo.

 

[Hoskin300]

Do we rate the sandover medal anymore.?

Callan England.
25 age profile


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We moved him on way too quickly back in the day.

 

[ConcreteWaters]

Happy birthday Witho.... Saw the top of the Instagram post and thought maybe the delistings had started

 

[Hoskin300]

I'd take Smith over Rioli, Bolton or Baker. Hell, I'd take Smith over Barrass in some circumstances. Obviously some risk given behaviour and injury lowers his value but he has the highest ceiling of all players mentioned for this trade period.

Bolton is miles ahead of bailey smith.