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  • List Manager Matt Clarke appeared on Gettable - Click spoiler below for summary
    On the draft: "We predicted that the draft was strong, but it's probably gotten stronger during the year."

    On top end of draft: "You could probably make five or six different choices and get it right."

    On Pick 3: "I reckon there's five (players) around that mark."

    On splitting: "I think you want to hold an early selection if you can. The depth of this group allows you to maybe have some movement there, and see what you can do to bring in more talent in the first 20-25 picks. Easier said than done, and I think most clubs would be saying the same thing. We'll see what we can do."

    On Liam Baker: "He's still yet to make a decision. They're still weighing up a few things. We'd love to get Liam on board from what he offers from a talent and leadership point of view. We understand where we're at as a group, we're rebuilding our group, we need to add some guys in the middle tier to support our young group."

    On Jack Graham: "We've got a number of players that we're speaking to. A bit of a wait and see on that one as well. We'll talk to a number of guys."

    On Shai Bolton: "I think it will be difficult for anybody, really. He's heavily contracted and a high quality player."

    On James Peatling: "He's heavily involved in a finals series at the moment so I don't want to comment too much on it, but I think there's a number of guys that have been playing really good footy this year that could suit what we do and what other clubs do. He's taken his footy to another level this year."

    On Tom Barrass: "We've had an early discussion with Hawthorn about it, they understand where we're at. He's nominated Hawthorn as his ideal destination. We want what we think he's worth, as a genuine key back in the competition that can do what he can do. We're obviously mindful of getting an appropriate deal for West Coast."

    On Tom Clurey: "Maybe (note: sounded very non enthused). We'd probably need some key back depth, whether that's through the draft or trade and free agency."

    On Jack Darling: "We've had initial discussions with his management group about (moving). We're open to talking, as we are with all of our players, but Jack's contracted with us."

    On Liam Ryan: "I expect him to be at West Coast next year, yes." (The most definitive answer of the day by a mile, a non-starter of a talking point.)

    On out of contact players e.g. Rotham, Witherden, Jones: "We're still working through what it looks like from a list point of view, and how many selections we'll want to have, and players that may come in and potentially may go out. You might want to give a coach an opportunity to look at these guys."

    On Harley Reid: "We've had discussions most of the year with his management group. I think it sits in a really good place. We're open to doing really whatever they want to do to be honest. We're really confident in building the right system around Harley, on and off field, to make sure that he's really comfortable, that he's going to play his best footy, and his long term future."

    On Jake Waterman's new deal: "Yep, really close. We're working really closely with his management on that. I expect that we'll have something done pretty soon."

    On Oscar Allen: "We've been talking with Oscar and his manager most of the year on that one. We're going through some stuff at the moment. I think we'll be ok with that one."







 
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Have you seen him play for Carlton, he has a very awkward kicking action and seems to favour the handball. He Doesnt look like a player that will improve our squad much. He was around pick 40 in his draft and can see why wasn't taken early as he doesnt seem that good or any better than what we already have and players we are likely to delist.
Would clearly be an improvement for the squad and in a position of need.

Showed some ok signs when he got his chance without fully taking them.

Would be down the list of the young mids we would be looking at though but still an option.

My order would be (3 of these are needed but probably 4 max)
Peatling
Garcia
Sheldrick
Davies ❌
Dev
Erasmus
Carroll
Graham
Parfitt
Brodie
 
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Have you seen him play for Carlton, he has a very awkward kicking action and seems to favour the handball. He Doesnt look like a player that will improve our squad much. He was around pick 40 in his draft and can see why wasn't taken early as he doesnt seem that good or any better than what we already have and players we are likely to delist.
Nope, never seen him play a game of footy, don't really watch that much football at all, didn't even know there was a thing called the VFL before the AFL.......
Don't disagree in the highlights below he favours the handball, but they are smart decisions. Do think he has something to offer us.



Our thoughts on his ability are different, and maybe I shouldn't have of given my opinion as it opens the door, BUT my original question wasn't "what is everyone opinion on Jack", it was what would a trade look like e.g. a 4th rounder?
 


IF Lalor is going to slide to 6, does that make a pick split more appealing?


Well, that answers this one then:

Read somewhere that Lalor's hammy is decent and, as well as being done for the year now, probably won't test either. Anyone confirm? WCE_phil ?

I'd be happy to take him at 3, so bring it on. Fitness now becomes a bigger question mark, but midfield ability or production aren't. Would prefer him to Langford.
 
Well, that answers this one then:



I'd be happy to take him at 3, so bring it on. Fitness now becomes a bigger question mark, but midfield ability or production aren't. Would prefer him to Langford.
If we’re splitting 3 with Richmond with 6 and 9 coming back as part of the deal getting us Lalor and Travaglia I’m ok with that.

It would however make the Warner situation a little more complicated. Harley, Warner and Lalor are all such offensive mids which we would need to take into consideration.
 

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IF Lalor is going to slide to 6, does that make a pick split more appealing?


West Coast salivating at the possibilities of this. Don't even need to split the pick. Just take the injured bloke at 3 and botch his recovery all of next season so he plays zero games. A win/win.
 
Hawthorn reportedly have plenty of cap space so suggestions that we might be able to improve our trade return by paying some of TB’s salary aren’t likely to eventuate

They’ll be wanting to keep as much of their draft hand intact as possible and have no need to dilute it to gain cap space they don’t need

If we somehow manage to get their R1 and F1 without anything going back we’ll have done brilliantly

The minimum we should get is their R1 plus 30 or F2 so anything short of that would be disappointing
Agree with all this, although the Hawks have just made verbal commitments to Barrass and Battle for just under $2m a year for 5 years. There are two considerations that would make Barrass and salary more attractive.

The first is Perryman, if he goes to the hawks on 850k or so a year would they need us to contribute salary to get all three within the cap?

The second is if the Hawks are of a mind to make a play for another big fish like LDU or TDK next year. Having Barrass’s salary heavily subsidised may allow them the wiggle room to make one more big play next year for a free agent. They’ve drafted heavily and traded cheaply over the last few years which may allow them to sit out the pointy end of consecutive drafts whilst still building their list.
 
Agree with all this, although the Hawks have just made verbal commitments to Barrass and Battle for just under $2m a year for 5 years. There are two considerations that would make Barrass and salary more attractive.

The first is Perryman, if he goes to the hawks on 850k or so a year would they need us to contribute salary to get all three within the cap?

The second is if the Hawks are of a mind to make a play for another big fish like LDU or TDK next year. Having Barrass’s salary heavily subsidised may allow them the wiggle room to make one more big play next year for a free agent. They’ve drafted heavily and traded cheaply over the last few years which may allow them to sit out the pointy end of consecutive drafts whilst still building their list.
A cunning plan to pay the salary of other teams players.
 
Jack Macrae wants out. def not what we need imo tho.

Not what we need as a player but definitely something we should be putting our hand up for if its a salary dump coming with a pick.

We’d never be first in line for this sort of thing though given our location
 
If we’re splitting 3 with Richmond with 6 and 9 coming back as part of the deal getting us Lalor and Travaglia I’m ok with that.

It would however make the Warner situation a little more complicated. Harley, Warner and Lalor are all such offensive mids which we would need to take into consideration.

Uh...what Warner situation?
 
Slide ? Was he ever in the top 5 ? Fos smillie jagga draiper Langford Reid?
He was as still is in my top 5

Smillie and FOS have been disappointing in 2025 and are not a top 5 lock anymore while huge ??? on Langford’s athleticism

There will not be much consensus this year so Cal will struggle with his predictions
 

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