List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Elite Pete]

Macrae can play that defensive role. Has three years left and we could take that contract on for a pick

Not looking interstate according to Tradies or Gettable. Want to stay in Melbourne. Would clearly have a suitor or he wouldn’t of went down this track

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

IF Lalor is going to slide to 6, does that make a pick split more appealing?

Slide ? Was he ever in the top 5 ? Fos smillie jagga draiper Langford Reid?

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Macrae wants out as well.

It will be hard to facilitate a trade with 3 years of big coin left .

Dogs would be begging for him to go

 

[Schtinker]

Macrae can play that defensive role. Has three years left and we could take that contract on for a pick

30 already hmmmmm. Don't think he fits the demographic we be looking at

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

H.Brayshaw - Delisted from WCE, wins Sandover.

C.England - Delisted from WCE, wins Sandover.

B.Ainsworth:

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Didn't partington win a magarey medal ?

 

[Elite Pete]

Have you seen him play for Carlton, he has a very awkward kicking action and seems to favour the handball. He Doesnt look like a player that will improve our squad much. He was around pick 40 in his draft and can see why wasn't taken early as he doesnt seem that good or any better than what we already have and players we are likely to delist.

Would clearly be an improvement for the squad and in a position of need.

Showed some ok signs when he got his chance without fully taking them.

Would be down the list of the young mids we would be looking at though but still an option.

My order would be (3 of these are needed but probably 4 max)
Peatling
Garcia
Sheldrick
Davies
Dev
Erasmus
Carroll
Graham
Parfitt
Brodie

 

[Convocation]

Have you seen him play for Carlton, he has a very awkward kicking action and seems to favour the handball. He Doesnt look like a player that will improve our squad much. He was around pick 40 in his draft and can see why wasn't taken early as he doesnt seem that good or any better than what we already have and players we are likely to delist.

Nope, never seen him play a game of footy, don't really watch that much football at all, didn't even know there was a thing called the VFL before the AFL.......
Don't disagree in the highlights below he favours the handball, but they are smart decisions. Do think he has something to offer us.



Our thoughts on his ability are different, and maybe I shouldn't have of given my opinion as it opens the door, BUT my original question wasn't "what is everyone opinion on Jack", it was what would a trade look like e.g. a 4th rounder?

 

[random260]

IF Lalor is going to slide to 6, does that make a pick split more appealing?

That's big.

I don't know if we can take him without a single testing result. Has he done testing at any point in his career? He could have shitty endurance. And God awful agility and horrific speed.

 

[Mattman93]

IF Lalor is going to slide to 6, does that make a pick split more appealing?

Well, that answers this one then:

Read somewhere that Lalor's hammy is decent and, as well as being done for the year now, probably won't test either. Anyone confirm? WCE_phil ?

I'd be happy to take him at 3, so bring it on. Fitness now becomes a bigger question mark, but midfield ability or production aren't. Would prefer him to Langford.

 

[Spooky17]

I think it was Essendon

 

[THE_GUN]

It's unfortunate that there is no pick purchasing this year.

There are a number of clubs (Freo, Carlton and Gold Coast?) that may be open to selling a R1 pick (for the right deal - Salary and picks).

Very good possibility this will happen with the Rioli & Bolton deals

 

[eaglevision]

Well, that answers this one then:



I'd be happy to take him at 3, so bring it on. Fitness now becomes a bigger question mark, but midfield ability or production aren't. Would prefer him to Langford.

If we’re splitting 3 with Richmond with 6 and 9 coming back as part of the deal getting us Lalor and Travaglia I’m ok with that.

It would however make the Warner situation a little more complicated. Harley, Warner and Lalor are all such offensive mids which we would need to take into consideration.

 

[ziad]

Well, that answers this one then:



I'd be happy to take him at 3, so bring it on. Fitness now becomes a bigger question mark, but midfield ability or production aren't. Would prefer him to Langford.

The single biggest predictor of a hamstring injury is to have had a previous one.

 

[dinnaz]

Screw baker-
I'd pay our 2nd rounder for Macrae if we could convince him to move.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

IF Lalor is going to slide to 6, does that make a pick split more appealing?

West Coast salivating at the possibilities of this. Don't even need to split the pick. Just take the injured bloke at 3 and botch his recovery all of next season so he plays zero games. A win/win.

 

[eaglevision]

Hawthorn reportedly have plenty of cap space so suggestions that we might be able to improve our trade return by paying some of TB’s salary aren’t likely to eventuate

They’ll be wanting to keep as much of their draft hand intact as possible and have no need to dilute it to gain cap space they don’t need

If we somehow manage to get their R1 and F1 without anything going back we’ll have done brilliantly

The minimum we should get is their R1 plus 30 or F2 so anything short of that would be disappointing

Agree with all this, although the Hawks have just made verbal commitments to Barrass and Battle for just under $2m a year for 5 years. There are two considerations that would make Barrass and salary more attractive.

The first is Perryman, if he goes to the hawks on 850k or so a year would they need us to contribute salary to get all three within the cap?

The second is if the Hawks are of a mind to make a play for another big fish like LDU or TDK next year. Having Barrass’s salary heavily subsidised may allow them the wiggle room to make one more big play next year for a free agent. They’ve drafted heavily and traded cheaply over the last few years which may allow them to sit out the pointy end of consecutive drafts whilst still building their list.

 

[Lyyynnnchy]

Screw baker-
I'd pay our 2nd rounder for Macrae if we could convince him to move.

What? He’s 30…

 

[boondy]

Any opportunity the west can bag our club

 

[ziad]

Agree with all this, although the Hawks have just made verbal commitments to Barrass and Battle for just under $2m a year for 5 years. There are two considerations that would make Barrass and salary more attractive.

The first is Perryman, if he goes to the hawks on 850k or so a year would they need us to contribute salary to get all three within the cap?

The second is if the Hawks are of a mind to make a play for another big fish like LDU or TDK next year. Having Barrass’s salary heavily subsidised may allow them the wiggle room to make one more big play next year for a free agent. They’ve drafted heavily and traded cheaply over the last few years which may allow them to sit out the pointy end of consecutive drafts whilst still building their list.

A cunning plan to pay the salary of other teams players.

 

[eaglevision]

A cunning plan to pay the salary of other teams players.

Don’t mind it if they’re paying for the kids we draft.

 

[Coasters7]

Jack Macrae wants out. def not what we need imo tho.

Another Dog wants out: Gun midfielder requests trade

Jack Macrae has told the Bulldogs he is seeking a trade

www.afl.com.au

Not what we need as a player but definitely something we should be putting our hand up for if its a salary dump coming with a pick.

We’d never be first in line for this sort of thing though given our location

 

[Mattman93]

If we’re splitting 3 with Richmond with 6 and 9 coming back as part of the deal getting us Lalor and Travaglia I’m ok with that.

It would however make the Warner situation a little more complicated. Harley, Warner and Lalor are all such offensive mids which we would need to take into consideration.

Uh...what Warner situation?

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Slide ? Was he ever in the top 5 ? Fos smillie jagga draiper Langford Reid?

He was as still is in my top 5

Smillie and FOS have been disappointing in 2025 and are not a top 5 lock anymore while huge ??? on Langford’s athleticism

There will not be much consensus this year so Cal will struggle with his predictions

 

[eaglevision]

Uh...what Warner situation?

If we were intending on making a play for Warner next year.

 

[Mattman93]

If we were intending on making a play for Warner next year.

Don't think we need to be strategising around that remote possibility just yet.