List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Trouto]

Can anyone here inform me on why West Coast are offering Jack Graham

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Jack Graham

Age

26

Ht

181cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.8

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

6.3

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

11.8

3star

K

5.3

2star

HB

6.5

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

4.2

5star

CL

1.2

4star

D

14.0

4star

K

6.0

3star

HB

8.0

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

7.0

5star

CL

3.2

5star

a 4 year deal?

I though we want to remove spuds from our list????

What they hell can Graham offer us?

 

[Altum Volantes]

Can anyone here inform me on why West Coast are offering Jack Graham a 4 year deal?

I though we want to remove spuds from our list????

What they hell can Graham offer us?

A veteran hard body that has 3-4 years on Yeo, Kelly and Sheed?

A capable player that can play an assigned role?

I agree, 4 is a lot, but 4 year deals aren’t really 4 year deals anymore are they?

Based on current trends, we are lucky he’s not signed until the Brisbane Olympics.

 

[WA footy mad]

Why wouldnt we take Richmonds spuds & delay our rebuild. Its the way WCE role.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Can anyone here inform me on why West Coast are offering Jack Graham a 4 year deal?

I though we want to remove spuds from our list????

What they hell can Graham offer us?

Not my first choice. Be he's free (in terms of not giving up picks) and a competent, AFL quality (even if back end of best 22 in a good team) level of play, who can play a specific role (defensive midfielder) that we are missing.

Have you seen who have been getting games for us?

 

[ziad]

Not my first choice. Be he's free (in terms of not giving up picks) and a competent, AFL quality (even if back end of best 22 in a good team) level of play, who can play a specific role (defensive midfielder) that we are missing.

Have you seen who have been getting games for us?

You make a fair point

 

[Convocation]

That Jack Carroll highlight vid was pretty decent tbh.

Odd player, strange gait, but penetrating left foot and appeared to be a good combo of inside/outside.

Wouldn't kick up much of a fuss parting ways with our 4th rounder (59) to get him. OOC from my understanding and with more responsibility and game time it wouldn't be surprising to see him continue his upwards trajectory.

Carroll, Dev, certainly helps our list profile.

 

[shooshka]

Not my first choice. Be he's free (in terms of not giving up picks) and a competent, AFL quality (even if back end of best 22 in a good team) level of play, who can play a specific role (defensive midfielder) that we are missing.

Have you seen who have been getting games for us?

Yep… pretty much

This board: we only want star players and those who are top 15 in our side so absolutely improve us

Also this board: why don’t we defend… it is so easy to score against us


We lack stars, and will draft for them, but we also lack a number of role players who will do the grunt work, essentially getting the ball into the hands of those stars (via defence, HBG’s, etc).

That is what Graham, Baker, Dev offer. People can rate them in order of capability, cost, etc - but we 100% lack players with their attributes.


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[Happy Mastenator]

Yep… pretty much

This board: we only want star players and those who are top 15 in our side so absolutely improve us

Also this board: why don’t we defend… it is so easy to score against us


We lack stars, and will draft for them, but we also lack a number of role players who will do the grunt work, essentially getting the ball into the hands of those stars (via defence, HBG’s, etc).

That is what Graham, Baker, Dev offer. People can rate them in order of capability, cost, etc - but we 100% lack players with their attributes.


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Our favourite centre square midfield is Reid, Kelly and Yeo. Yeo is the only one with an ounce of defensive pressure at this stage, but he's also our best at contesting the ball. Our backups are basically Ginbey (who looks to be moving back), Hewett (who hasn't played for 18 months and is attacking minded), then a bunch of rubbish/not ready young players.

I think we can find a role for Graham, Baker, Dev

 

[Biggie]

Why wouldnt we take Richmonds spuds & delay our rebuild. Its the way WCE role.

If you had your way we'd have a squad of 18/19 yr old's only.

We requires some hardened defensive players, none of which are on our list. And it doesn't cost any draft capital.

Seems an easy choice for me, if elects to come over.

 

[illegaleagle]

If we were to get Peatling, then would we ditch the idea of getting Graham as both are defensive minded mids but Peatling is younger, bigger and quicker?

 

[Dark Sharks]

Probably.

Peatling will cost draft collateral though, thicc boi Graham costs nothing other than salary.

 

[pantskyle]

If we can somehow bring in Peatling, Garcia and Carroll (heck I'd be stoked with 2 out of the 3) I think that would go a long way to enhancing our rebuild.

Parfitt a perfect age and profile for us as well as a FA.

These type of moves would also allow us to be a bit more speculative on our pick 3 whether we use it or trade it to get some more top 20 draft hits.

It's also why we need to be trying to get a priority package from the AFL, those must be traded future 2nd and 3rd round picks can be used on those first three players (plus our own future picks)

 

[Elite Pete]

If we were to get Peatling, then would we ditch the idea of getting Graham as both are defensive minded mids but Peatling is younger, bigger and quicker?

Need a few defensive minded mids. Peatling, Garcia and Dev maybe they move on from Graham. Sounds like Graham more likely to stay now but time will tell.

 

[Elite Pete]

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Got his exit meeting today or tomorrow. Will be interesting

 

[Obeanie1]

Yep… pretty much

This board: we only want star players and those who are top 15 in our side so absolutely improve us

Also this board: why don’t we defend… it is so easy to score against us


We lack stars, and will draft for them, but we also lack a number of role players who will do the grunt work, essentially getting the ball into the hands of those stars (via defence, HBG’s, etc).

That is what Graham, Baker, Dev offer. People can rate them in order of capability, cost, etc - but we 100% lack players with their attributes.


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100%

That's why Garcia is my preference. He is very good in the close contest getting that loose ball and dishing it out.

THAT'S what Harley, Hewett, Kelly and pick 3 need for support. And a defensive mid to tackle and harrass.

 

[TOA.]

If we were to get Peatling, then would we ditch the idea of getting Graham as both are defensive minded mids but Peatling is younger, bigger and quicker?

No way we get Peatling. He has way too much interest from better sides in Victoria. Why would he select us. We had some hope when he was struggling to get a game but now the cat is out of the bag with other clubs.

 

[flyinghi64]

If we do get a Premiership, hard working, tough player for a bag of chips who can instill a bit of intestinal fortitude into the group............can we just wait and see how he goes before bagging him and the club for picking him up.

With the way the past few seasons have gone anything slightly positive is a win.

 

[twce13]

No way we get Peatling. He has way too much interest from better sides in Victoria. Why would he select us. We had some hope when he was struggling to get a game but now the cat is out of the bag with other clubs.

because $$$

 

[pantskyle]

No way we get Peatling. He has way too much interest from better sides in Victoria. Why would he select us. We had some hope when he was struggling to get a game but now the cat is out of the bag with other clubs.

Money.
We can offer him a better financial package and an exciting young midfield.

 

[mat11]

Probably.

Peatling will cost draft collateral though, thicc boi Graham costs nothing other than salary.

Sometimes free agency is a bit of an illusion, things are generally free for a reason.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

If after all is said and done we staring at a big wad of cash is 6 year 6 mill deal for Perryman that big of a issue?

At some point we gotta make a bloody move that isnt 2 Richmond nobodies

 

[shooshka]

If after all is said and done we staring at a big wad of cash is 6 year 6 mill deal for Perryman that big of a issue?

At some point we gotta make a bloody move that isnt 2 Richmond nobodies

It does hurt the culture though when 1 guy is massively overpaid (cue the TK, Darling, Gaff convo - but when the contracts were done the $ was reasonable. Contract terms maybe too long, but yeah).

What I’d prefer we do, is $800k x 6 (still more than others), and use the $200k (plus money freed up from Darling and TB) to pay out a couple of contracted guys.

That creates space for more FA’s, draftees, etc. It may not be the best use of cap, but high turnover (4/5 trades + FA plus 5/6 draftees) will benefit us mid/long term.


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[Shueygod]

Graham would struggle to make 10/18 teams in this league, waste of time pick up.

 

[plays tall 1]

It does hurt the culture though when 1 guy is massively overpaid (cue the TK, Darling, Gaff convo - but when the contracts were done the $ was reasonable. Contract terms maybe too long, but yeah).

What I’d prefer we do, is $800k x 6 (still more than others), and use the $200k (plus money freed up from Darling and TB) to pay out a couple of contracted guys.

That creates space for more FA’s, draftees, etc. It may not be the best use of cap, but high turnover (4/5 trades + FA plus 5/6 draftees) will benefit us mid/long term.


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It’s not ideal but I think our culture is poor already. Players pick and choose when they put in an effort.

If we have to pay more to get guys in who can change that culture it’ll be worthwhile.

 

[mitchzz]

The draft is so interesting this year.

All the top end mids are relatively even but all have slight question marks too.

Here's how I'd currently rank the options available to us. I think Levi Ashcroft would be my number 1 (if he was available).

1. Jagga
2. Reid
3. Draper / Langford
4. Lalor
5. FOS / Smilie

I think Jagga's production is just too hard to ignore. Pure midfield pig. Only worry is his size.

With Jagga likely gone at 3, Murphy Reid is the one I wish we'd be able to pick up. Though can't see it unless he has a change of heart about leaving Victoria.