List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

Remove this Banner Ad

  • Thread starter
  • Moderator
  • #2


Quick links



Latest news and rumours

Done deals:



  • Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones and Jordyn Baker delisted


Ongoing discussions:




  • List Manager Matt Clarke appeared on Sept 11 Gettable - Click spoiler below for summary
    On the draft: "We predicted that the draft was strong, but it's probably gotten stronger during the year."

    On top end of draft: "You could probably make five or six different choices and get it right."

    On Pick 3: "I reckon there's five (players) around that mark."

    On splitting: "I think you want to hold an early selection if you can. The depth of this group allows you to maybe have some movement there, and see what you can do to bring in more talent in the first 20-25 picks. Easier said than done, and I think most clubs would be saying the same thing. We'll see what we can do."

    On Liam Baker: "He's still yet to make a decision. They're still weighing up a few things. We'd love to get Liam on board from what he offers from a talent and leadership point of view. We understand where we're at as a group, we're rebuilding our group, we need to add some guys in the middle tier to support our young group."

    On Jack Graham: "We've got a number of players that we're speaking to. A bit of a wait and see on that one as well. We'll talk to a number of guys."

    On Shai Bolton: "I think it will be difficult for anybody, really. He's heavily contracted and a high quality player."

    On James Peatling: "He's heavily involved in a finals series at the moment so I don't want to comment too much on it, but I think there's a number of guys that have been playing really good footy this year that could suit what we do and what other clubs do. He's taken his footy to another level this year."

    On Tom Barrass: "We've had an early discussion with Hawthorn about it, they understand where we're at. He's nominated Hawthorn as his ideal destination. We want what we think he's worth, as a genuine key back in the competition that can do what he can do. We're obviously mindful of getting an appropriate deal for West Coast."

    On Tom Clurey: "Maybe (note: sounded very non enthused). We'd probably need some key back depth, whether that's through the draft or trade and free agency."

    On Jack Darling: "We've had initial discussions with his management group about (moving). We're open to talking, as we are with all of our players, but Jack's contracted with us."

    On Liam Ryan: "I expect him to be at West Coast next year, yes." (The most definitive answer of the day by a mile, a non-starter of a talking point.)

    On out of contact players e.g. Rotham, Witherden, Jones: "We're still working through what it looks like from a list point of view, and how many selections we'll want to have, and players that may come in and potentially may go out. You might want to give a coach an opportunity to look at these guys."

    On Harley Reid: "We've had discussions most of the year with his management group. I think it sits in a really good place. We're open to doing really whatever they want to do to be honest. We're really confident in building the right system around Harley, on and off field, to make sure that he's really comfortable, that he's going to play his best footy, and his long term future."

    On Jake Waterman's new deal: "Yep, really close. We're working really closely with his management on that. I expect that we'll have something done pretty soon."

    On Oscar Allen: "We've been talking with Oscar and his manager most of the year on that one. We're going through some stuff at the moment. I think we'll be ok with that one."



Past rumoured targets:
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Are there any examples where splitting a Top 3 draft pick actually works out favourable?

To me, it just seems like a short sighted gamble each time..

EG: Melbourne's Pick 2 (Josh Kelly) for Pick 9 (C.Salem + D.Tyson)

Rather take the best available Mid at 3 and have a higher percentage chance of A grade talent to pair with Harley.
While I agree in general, Salem is a pretty important player for them and Tyson looked pretty good early on. Just seemed to break down physically. Kelly looked like a superstar early as well but has plateaued a lot.

This year doesn’t seem to have a Josh Kelly or a Sheezel/Wardlaw though.
 


As if Victorian journalists couldn’t get any funnier, Jay Clark is suggesting we trade pick 3 to Carlton for picks 12 and 14 and then give Richmond pick 12 for Liam Baker

It’s absolutely hilarious how these guys are so desperate for Richmond to have an amazing draft hand and for us to just get shafted

They’d get half way into 2025 and start saying how we lack quality youth and start criticising us for trading pick 3 away and using 12 on Baker
 

Log in to remove this ad.

I thought I'd read it all but one Richmond supporter over on their trade thread suggested our Pick 3 for Baker + Pick 18.
Now ain't that something.
When the media is frothing out first round pick fantasies for Baker it’s easy to understand why they’d be inflating his value.

Imagine if they did the same for Barrass. We’d be absolutely lathering ourselves over potential juicy trades
 
Also, I know it's less than what Richmond are asking for but should we give up pick 26 for Baker (assuming we can't work out the Barrass trade) that would leave us with pick 3 and then pick 63 being our next selection. I can't imagine a world in which such an outcome would be acceptable to us in the middle of a rebuild. Ergo, if there is nothing else on the table we cannot offer even pick 26 to Richmond this year (as it currently stands).
 
Also, I know it's less than what Richmond are asking for but should we give up pick 26 for Baker (assuming we can't work out the Barrass trade) that would leave us with pick 3 and then pick 63 being our next selection. I can't imagine a world in which such an outcome would be acceptable to us in the middle of a rebuild. Ergo, if there is nothing else on the table we cannot offer even pick 26 to Richmond this year (as it currently stands).
We can do this, then bring our future picks into this year and find a way to split 3 for something decent (a top 7 pick+ top 20 pick)

Take 6+18+a 2nd rounder(for our f2) and Champion.
Could split the 2nd rounder for 2 picks in the late 2nd/3rd round too. Supposedly a deep draft so lets go deep

Check the DFA market or trade a f4/pick in the 60s if we want more players
 

(Log in to remove this ad.)

Trading 3 for picks 12 &14 for pick 3 is even stupider than trading Barrass for 14 and giving it to Richmond for an OOC Baker.

Why should you settle for 2 Toyotas when you can afford one Ferrari?
 
Righto I’ve been busy all day.
Does our new recruiting team get thrown to the lions, or are they sheer genius?

I'd say for the second year in a row they haven't bowed down to public pressure by the Victorian media and made a decision detrimental to the future of the club...but trade period doesn't end for another five days so anything's possible.
 
Righto I’ve been busy all day.
Does our new recruiting team get thrown to the lions, or are they sheer genius?

Oh f*** me, did you have to mention them. :eek:

Numerous incoming posts about all things King of The Jungle from a certain guest poster, will now be on there way.
 
So here is my latest

Pick 3 (retain) - FOS or Lalor or Smith
Notional pick 14 - welcome home Tom
Pick 26 - Oliver or Gross
Champion with points
A KPD and utility and small forward with late picks/rookies respecting the depth of the draft
I like it. FOS and Oliver, try to turn Barrass or our F1 into 6 or 7 and take Tobie.
 
Are there any examples where splitting a Top 3 draft pick actually works out favourable?

To me, it just seems like a short sighted gamble each time..

EG: Melbourne's Pick 2 (Josh Kelly) for Pick 9 (C.Salem + D.Tyson)

Rather take the best available Mid at 3 and have a higher percentage chance of A grade talent to pair with Harley.

IMG_6501.jpeg

Titch 21, Fyfe 20, Neale 58, Wines 7, Crippa 13.

I’m all for good picks but it’s a particularly even draft and if we can turn 3 into near on two top 10s I’m all for it this time around
 

Remove this Banner Ad

List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

Remove this Banner Ad

Back
Top