List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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  • List Manager Matt Clarke appeared on Sept 11 Gettable - Click spoiler below for summary
    On the draft: "We predicted that the draft was strong, but it's probably gotten stronger during the year."

    On top end of draft: "You could probably make five or six different choices and get it right."

    On Pick 3: "I reckon there's five (players) around that mark."

    On splitting: "I think you want to hold an early selection if you can. The depth of this group allows you to maybe have some movement there, and see what you can do to bring in more talent in the first 20-25 picks. Easier said than done, and I think most clubs would be saying the same thing. We'll see what we can do."

    On Liam Baker: "He's still yet to make a decision. They're still weighing up a few things. We'd love to get Liam on board from what he offers from a talent and leadership point of view. We understand where we're at as a group, we're rebuilding our group, we need to add some guys in the middle tier to support our young group."

    On Jack Graham: "We've got a number of players that we're speaking to. A bit of a wait and see on that one as well. We'll talk to a number of guys."

    On Shai Bolton: "I think it will be difficult for anybody, really. He's heavily contracted and a high quality player."

    On James Peatling: "He's heavily involved in a finals series at the moment so I don't want to comment too much on it, but I think there's a number of guys that have been playing really good footy this year that could suit what we do and what other clubs do. He's taken his footy to another level this year."

    On Tom Barrass: "We've had an early discussion with Hawthorn about it, they understand where we're at. He's nominated Hawthorn as his ideal destination. We want what we think he's worth, as a genuine key back in the competition that can do what he can do. We're obviously mindful of getting an appropriate deal for West Coast."

    On Tom Clurey: "Maybe (note: sounded very non enthused). We'd probably need some key back depth, whether that's through the draft or trade and free agency."

    On Jack Darling: "We've had initial discussions with his management group about (moving). We're open to talking, as we are with all of our players, but Jack's contracted with us."

    On Liam Ryan: "I expect him to be at West Coast next year, yes." (The most definitive answer of the day by a mile, a non-starter of a talking point.)

    On out of contact players e.g. Rotham, Witherden, Jones: "We're still working through what it looks like from a list point of view, and how many selections we'll want to have, and players that may come in and potentially may go out. You might want to give a coach an opportunity to look at these guys."

    On Harley Reid: "We've had discussions most of the year with his management group. I think it sits in a really good place. We're open to doing really whatever they want to do to be honest. We're really confident in building the right system around Harley, on and off field, to make sure that he's really comfortable, that he's going to play his best footy, and his long term future."

    On Jake Waterman's new deal: "Yep, really close. We're working really closely with his management on that. I expect that we'll have something done pretty soon."

    On Oscar Allen: "We've been talking with Oscar and his manager most of the year on that one. We're going through some stuff at the moment. I think we'll be ok with that one."



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Look guys - Lachie Neale is, was, always has been a little nugget. Jagga is a breadstick, but a very good breadstick. I think if we do draft him we can at least turn him into a very effective baguette. I’m getting a bit hungry now
Which draftee do you feel would be most comparable to a toasted cheese sandwich?
 

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3 and F2 for 7/8/27?

26 and 27 for Baker?

Don’t mind getting involved with the Saints but don’t see how it interacts with a Baker deal.

Imagine Barrass went to another club, we got Baker for less than intended and Hawthorn are left holding their dicks after trading out of the first round because 3 days was 'too long' to wait for an answer?

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A lot in it, 3kg if you believe the stats that are rarely accurate, at the same time Jagga is 4cm taller than Neale. Neale had significantly more muscle mass on him and has also probably gained more than most would've expected. Jagga has had the year off of school to focus on football and still hasn't managed to gain much size. Not saying he can't be successful in the role but his body size may hold him back a bit.
I suppose I'm happy in either approach the club take should we retain the selection. Sid the Kid being the safe bet with the lower ceiling, but if we end up with Mick Jagga Smith, then I also consider that a win.

PS: I slept through the vast majority of high school human biology, body types are the one part I actually remember.
 
Which draftee do you feel would be most comparable to a toasted cheese sandwich?
Uhh. Harley Reid can deliver a clearance to Waterman on a plate...

Yeah that's terrible.



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3 and F2 for 7/8/27?

26 and 27 for Baker?

Don’t mind getting involved with the Saints but don’t see how it interacts with a Baker deal.

Surely this isn't new information to them?
Unless there's another ruck they like the look of more, perhaps?

B Williams perhaps?


Mop maybe you were onto something ;)
 
Could see something like this going down, only team I see maybe saying no here is St.Kilda

WC give: 3, 26
WC get: 7, 15, Baker

STK give: 7,8
STK get: 3, 26

RIC give: Baker
RIC get: 16

GWS give: 15,16
GWS get: 8
Can only seeing us getting involved here if theres something in our favour.

That trade looks pretty ordinary from our point of view.

Keen to know what is being discussed though.
 
Been suggested in the media thread, and them supposedly not wanting to offer us as much.
For example here: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thre...nciteful-and-incomptent.1376202/post-85750544

There's an article just today with their supposed latest offer


"It’s believed Hawthorn’s latest offer for Barrass is a future first-round pick and a second rounder (either tied to Hawthorn or Carlton), with a future later pick also going back to West Coast."
 
Could our f1 get involved?

What about 3+f1 for 7+8+saints f1, then we can split 7 or 8 with Carlton or GWS or something to get a pick for Baker

3+f1 for 7+8+saintsf1
8 for 15+16 with GWS
16 for Baker
Barrass +f3 for Carlf1+hawksf1
Offer GCs choice of the 3 f1s we have for 13(probably saints)

Go into the draft with 7+13+15+26+Champion
Gets us Travaglia+Lindsay+Allan/Berry/Hynes+KPD+Champion.
A player for every portion of the ground

Have Carlf1+hawksf1+wcef2 for next year
 
There's an article just today with their supposed latest offer


"It’s believed Hawthorn’s latest offer for Barrass is a future first-round pick and a second rounder (either tied to Hawthorn or Carlton), with a future later pick also going back to West Coast."

It’s not really that much more, if any, than their previous offer though is it!!?

F1 + F2 = 14 (ok we get the choice, but splitting hairs).

Previous offer was 14 + F2 for our F3

If they are now adding a late future pick it’s probably F4, which would about equate to the F2 to F3 downgrade previously suggested.


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Can only seeing us getting involved here if theres something in our favour.

That trade looks pretty ordinary from our point of view.

Keen to know what is being discussed though.
Yeah I reckon if thats the way it went.

Would be a lot of moving parts but take the Eagles 26 out and Saints would end up with 3 and 15 for 7 and 8?
Finn/Lalor and Hotton?

Ours would just be a slide down to 7 and get Baker for 3

Travaglia or the sliding Langford or Draper maybe if the Crows don’t go him.
 
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