List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[greatwhiteshark]

I would like to think this has already been raised by us. Hawthorn don't have to play the game but if they screw us out of a low pick for Brockman and then play hardball for Barrass, it will be to their detriment at some point.

They bloody conned us with Brockman, WAFL list clogger it seems and they knew it already.

 

[Jupes]

To put it in perspective. We currently have a draft hand only slightly better than Geelongs ATM

you're saying we still have a chance of picking up clayton oliver and bailey smith?

 

[boondy]

Glad we didnt sell the farm

 

[TheHumanShoe]

The dumbest part is, Hawks will know this

Feel like the whole thing was done to take away the Hawks leverage of us needing a pick for Baker. But now they'll know we have no picks and are desperate to trade TB

Just plain stupidity all round

Then we just keep him to his contract.
They really need an elite player like him that will make all the difference in September.

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[JackOutback]

Yes there is but the reality is still that not many top draft picks become great players. You can't bank on top 3 you are getting a gun. Junior footy is much different to mens footy.

There's no guarantees in life but going back to the last 10 picks 3s, they are Walter, Sheezel, Callaghan, Phillips, Jackson, Rankine, Dow, McCluggage, Mills, Brayshaw. Pick 12 (and our pick will fall after this once bids come in) are Gothard, Fletcher, Sinn, Bruhn, Pickett, Butters, Fogarty, Simpkin, Curnow, Ellis. Couple of gems in there, but there's a difference.

Average games for a pick 3 is 138, for a pick 12 it's 91.

 

[bassmanx]

Surely we can now rely on the Hawks honoring their commitment to Tom and coughing up something decent?

 

[SomePorkHunt]

I somehow think with our future or possible future picks from Hawks we get back into the top 10 this year

 

[MKMatty]

Im not mad at Baker and Owies. They’re the age bracket we are lacking in, and their inclusion in the side protects some of the kids for that little bit longer.. it’s the fact we traded out our long term future and showed the other 17 clubs we aren’t serious about rebuilding that annoys me. We could have picked both up for far cheaper and retained p3.

Imagine walking Baker and picking up Owies as a DFA. Would that not tell Hawthorn to buck up the futures for Barrass?

We’ve gone from having a few clubs by the balls picks wise to fondling them for their pleasure.

 

[KERRPOW]

who would have thought, accepting the hawks initial offer of 14 and a second for barrass and a 3rd coming back would have been the better outcome.

 

[Nuke Fremantle]

Clarke 'ey



Pyke 'ey

You forgot the bloke in between them.

 

[RookiePick]

Then we just keep him to his contract.
They really need an elite player like him that will make all the difference in September.

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Barrass will still be a contracted top shelf KPD next trade period.

Hold him to his contract and tell him to take it up with Hawthorn who left him high and dry.

 

[mulehoops]

Not a fan of the trade by any means, but to play devils advocate if we were to select a "slider" in a very even top 10 draft, could be a masterstroke ?

 

[Bacchus]

• Baker is top 6 player at Richmond, the trade is connected to Graham and we were never going to walk anyone to PSD
• Owies has kicked goals, so must be good
• only had 3 and 26 to work with
• Looking at Dev
• some things happening next yr
• 12 is no where near as good as 3
• understands why supporters are asking questions
• sounded jovial
• Barrass trade is a cluster

Not having the PSD as an option destroys all leverage.

Geelong who are a good and successful club, unlike a failed club like us, are not afraid to both threaten and USE the PSD.

They want to win not be nice losers .

 

[Cuzz09]

Okay. I need to breathe. What's the realistic best case scenario on who we can get for our pick 12?

dev

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[dewcefault]

So the explanation is, we are the nice guys who always overpay once we commit to our trade targets, got it.

Bloody hell we better see some improvement on field next year.

Praying for a quiet trade week next year... <ominous Chad Warner sounds>

A strategy which hasn't really worked for us

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

[/QUOTE]
0% Pretty much anyone good that I want

Well trade done now its over or Owies ...

Hawthorn cannot takes us to the cleaners for Barrass now , can they ?!!

Can and will, I don't expect anything less.

 

[random260]

Not a fan of the trade by any means, but to play devils advocate if we were to select a "slider" in a very even top 10 draft, could be a masterstroke ?

How is relying on a slider/luck meant to make us feel like we have good management t

 

[Barrybran]

They bloody conned us with Brockman, WAFL list clogger it seems and they knew it already.

We paid a pick in the 40s for him. If they thought he was any good they would have made us pay more or not given him to us at all. Not every low pick is Jamie Cripps.

 

[giffler]

Okay. I need to breathe. What's the realistic best case scenario on who we can get for our pick 12?

A half back flanker with midfield potential

 

[boondy]

Sorry to hear that boondy. No one deserves such cruel parents.

7 Kids in a poor family . Xmas is all about getting not giving so yeah a lot of dissapointed kids on this board today

 

[RookiePick]

Didn't we pay 26-28 or something for Crippa? Back when a mid-second rounder wasn't essentially a piece of toilet paper.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Copping it from a Nth mate, you know you are on your knees when Nth supporters are laughing at you.

I'm coping it from everyone, the worst are people that don't know much about football. Even they know it's a bad deal...

 

[twce13]

2 future firsts or we keep Barrass, I hope we hold on that. McQualter seems very keen on keeping him.

Lison al ghiab

 

[DRK_13]

The whole "age bracket" talk is abit of a joke.

If our 30 + year olds, Kelly/Cripps/Sheed lead by example, we wouldnt need to bring in fringe players like Owies and Graham to fill that "void".

Seems like abit of an arbitrary number

 

[DanWCE]

I get the commitment to Baker thing, despite feeling icky about the cost. It's not as though the Tigers pushed him out. He is their VC and they were fighting to keep him. Fremantle were also balls deep into him.

That's three clubs having a real go for Baker. He's not going to select us if we don't commit to him and the deal. We are a ****ing basket case of a club. Been a horrendous three years. We're lucky Baker considered us at all, to be honest.

The price is the price and Im not arguing that point right now but we don't get Baker without pushing our chips in on him and selling him a vision better than the Tigers and Freos one. He will improve our list, he will be the conduit between coach and playing group and hopefully he makes us competitive enough that Harley chooses to stay beyond his three year term.

I suspect the club knows if it doesn't invest in established players to make us more competitive right now that we might lose HR9 as he will be fed up being the only one cracking in.