List Mgmt. Contracts, trades, draft - 2021 offseason edition

[Keys]

So the 2021 season is officially done and dusted.

It’s time now to fully turn our attention to the off season and what we can do through the trade period/draft to chase down Melbourne in 2022.

List and personnel changes have already been made and I’ll update this OP as and when any further changes are made.

As it stands these are our official list changes :

Out -
• Venables (R) - retired
• Vardy - retired
• Hutchings (R) - delisted
• Ah Chee (R) - delisted
• Ainsworth - delisted
• Johnson - delisted
• Collins (R) - delisted
• Brander - cluster****
• Cameron - retired/delisted not that it was officially acknowledged by the club
• Sheppard - retired

Inactive listed -
• Cole
• Chesser

In -
• Petrevski-Seton - traded for pick 52
• Chesser - Pick 14
• Hough - Pick 31
• Bazzo - Pick 37
• Williams (Jack) - Pick 57
• Clark - Pick 62
• Dixon - SSP
• Joyce - SSP
• Strnadica - SSP
• Naish - SSP

Players on main list - 37 (Including 2 inactive)
Players on rookie list - 7

Future trade picks :
In - Port Adelaide future 2nd
Out - Future 4th

Assistant Coaches :
• Out - Graham, Hickmott
• In - Schofield (Strategy and Stoppage), Knights (Midfield), Wiley (WAFL coach), Brennan (development)

Link to contract status of all players -

The Contracts Thread

2024 List Changes : Out: Retired- Gaff Delisted - Jones, Trew(R), Baker(R), Witherden, Burgiel, Culley(R), Rotham, L Edwards Traded - Darling (NM) Barrass (Hawthorn) In: Trade/FA acquisitions - Graham (Richmond) Baker (Richmond) Owies (Carlton) Draft - Allan (Pick 16) Shanahan (Pick 30) Gross...

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[Godfather32]

We could possibly give up a player and a 2nd/3rd rd pick ..

I wouldn't mind that, what player though?
I just want to keep our first and whichever is highest from Port's and ours second rounder and go to the draft

 

[eagles rule]

I wouldn't mind that, what player though?
I just want to keep our first and whichever is highest from Port's and ours second rounder and go to the draft

I haven`t given it much thought but off the top of my head maybe a Gaff .Duggan , Rotham .,B Williams or Waterman ..

 

[Eaglesliveagain]

Shuey was clearly playling to not injure himself yesterday. He was holding back from bursting away in a few situations and looked awkward. Needs a more simplified role. Maybe half back.

He was also gassed within the first 2 minutes of the game. Ball handling and timing was off as it was for Kelly and cripps these 3 should have come back through the 2s. Selection killed us again.

Although Sydney's game plan destroyed us just like last year it's like we didn't review the previous games against them and learnt nothing. It looked like we were playing checkers while they were playing chess. Simpson had no answers

 

[eagles rule]

So finally watching Show me the Money ep1

* Player manager`s dealings behind the scenes from last years draft ..

 

[Godfather32]

Shuey was clearly playling to not injure himself yesterday. He was holding back from bursting away in a few situations and looked awkward. Needs a more simplified role. Maybe half back.

Or maybe he needs to play in the WAFL until he can run out a full game

 

[Tugga27]

Keep Cripps, he shows consistent effort, does the hard running and 1%'ers, players a difficult role quite well, is 30 this year so not over the hill yet, I we share a birthday. We need to keep players like him, and some experience.
Bit trigger happy on Nic Nat. He's won our last two B&Fs. And no obvious replacement yet.
If Shuey has another season of 10-12 games then I think it might be time. Either way I think one of Shuey, Redden or Gaff needs to be turned over in some form, to get some younger bodies in midfield. Think Redden and Gaff are highly likely to stay on though.
Darling I'd happily trade if we can get something decent for him, you'd think he could still be valuable for a team in contention, it is time to load up in the draft and it's one of the rare cases where you can easily justify moving on a very experienced player without getting people offside.

So I think:
JK, Hurn, Shuey retire
Redden 1 yr contract if form is decent. Then retire
Darling for pick c.20
Nelson retained as depth. He has no currency otherwise, and you need depth players
Nic Nat 1 yr, Gaff stays on, as does Cripps.
That's 4 out the door with a couple younger players facing the chop too.

Darling contracted for another 3 years.
How's that going to work out?

 

[swingdog]

Or maybe he needs to play in the WAFL until he can run out a full game

Given that the season is blown, this should be the year where we lay that down as our standard. No guaranteed games, must be able to run out a full game in the 2s.

 

[swingdog]

Darling contracted for another 3 years.
How's that going to work out?

Perfect age profile for the Cats

More seriously, we could do a deal with GWS - Darling for Coniglio and both clubs ignore the massive stuff ups we've both made with big contracts for these players.

 

[Tugga27]

Perfect age profile for the Cats

More seriously, we could do a deal with GWS - Darling for Coniglio and both clubs ignore the massive stuff ups we've both made with big contracts for these players.

Cog's is on a million a year and he's not worth that.
I doubt Darling wants to leave WA anyway.

 

[Obeanie1]

I haven`t given it much thought but off the top of my head maybe a Gaff .Duggan , Rotham .,B Williams or Waterman ..

Rotham for mine would get us a pick upgrade. Rotham in a decent side would go well as a 3rd tall defender.

Or even Witherden with a 3rd might get an upgrade. For his faults he does some good things.

 

[Obeanie1]

Cog's is on a million a year and he's not worth that.
I doubt Darling wants to leave WA anyway.

Wonder if Darling would consider working interstate for 2 to 3 years? Get away from the Perth footy fish bowl?

QLD would be the place IMO. Nice weather, beaches etc. Suppose the real question is where would his mother in law like to live?

 

[swingdog]

Cog's is on a million a year and he's not worth that.
I doubt Darling wants to leave WA anyway.

After this off-season, I don't give a **** whether Darling wants to leave.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Given that the season is blown, this should be the year where we lay that down as our standard. No guaranteed games, must be able to run out a full game in the 2s.

Agree completely here. The biggest worry is all the talk that comes out of the club is the complete opposite.

Simmo even said in his presser "we didn't have a choice, they're 3 of our best players"

I mean, wtf. Of course there was a choice, you're the God damn coach.

 

[JackOutback]

Wonder if Darling would consider working interstate for 2 to 3 years? Get away from the Perth footy fish bowl?

QLD would be the place IMO. Nice weather, beaches etc. Suppose the real question is where would his mother in law like to live?

Does Byron Bay have a team?

 

[Scotland]

Gee, no chance I’d be giving them 25 for a player who can’t get a regular game.

No chance I'd give up two firsts and two seconds for an out of contract Kelly yet here we are.

 

[dinnaz]

Player​	OOC​	Status​
Aaron Black	2022​	1Yr
Alex Witherden	2022​	2Yr
Angus Dewar	2022​	Delist
Bailey Williams	2022​	2Yr
Brayden Ainsworth	2022​	Delist
Callum Jamieson	2022​	Delist
Connor West	2022​	1Yr
Declan Mountford	2022​	Delist
Hugh Dixon	2022​	1Yr
Isiah Winder	2022​	1Yr
Jack Redden	2022​	2Yr
Jackson Nelson	2022​	2Yr
Jamaine Jones	2022​	1Yr
Joshua Kennedy	2022​	Retire
Logan Young	2022​	Delist
Luke Edwards	2022​	2Yr
Luke Meadows	2022​	Delist
Luke Shuey	2022​	1Yr
Luke Strnadica	2022​	1Yr
Nicholas Naitanui	2022​	2Yr
Patrick Naish	2022​	2Yr
Shannon Hurn	2022​	Retire
Stefan Giro	2022​	Delist
Tom Cole	2022​	2Yr
Tom Joyce	2022​	Delist
Willie Rioli	2022​	2Yr
Zane Trew	2022​	Delist

I'd just give everyone 1 year contracts to be honest, or cut them.

 

[EagleJack42]

Serious question. Is anyone else worried that just as we're entering a rebuild, the AFL will decide it's time for a Tassie/NT team and we'll have our picks compromised just like 2009/2010?

 

[briztoon]

Serious question. Is anyone else worried that just as we're entering a rebuild, the AFL will decide it's time for a Tassie/NT team and we'll have our picks compromised just like 2009/2010?

Tassie will be 5 years away.

 

[dinnaz]

Player	Age	OOC	Status
Brady Hough	19.1	2023	+2
Campbell Chesser	19.0	2023	+2
Greg Clark	24.9	2023
Jack Petruccelle	23.0	2023
Jack Williams	18.4	2023
Jake Waterman	23.9	2023
Jamie Cripps	30.0	2023	+2
Jeremy McGovern	30.0	2023	+2
Luke Foley	22.5	2023	Delist
Rhett Bazzo	18.5	2023
Sam Petrevski-Seton	24.1	2023	+1
Xavier O'Neill	21.7	2023	Delist
Zac Langdon	26.4	2023	Delist

The only players i would extend now or early next year are Hough & Chesser. McGovern & Cripps depending on how their bodies are, should be given a 2 yr extension then drip fed 1 yr until retirement.
I'd say that we have seen enough of Petruccelle & Waterman to know they will only be bit part players and I would be open to trading either or both. Williams & Bazzo probably get another year each to see what they have but i'm not convinced either will make it at this point.

 

[KBLT]

Player	Age	OOC	Status
Brady Hough	19.1	2023	+2
Campbell Chesser	19.0	2023	+2
Greg Clark	24.9	2023
Jack Petruccelle	23.0	2023
Jack Williams	18.4	2023
Jake Waterman	23.9	2023
Jamie Cripps	30.0	2023	+2
Jeremy McGovern	30.0	2023	+2
Luke Foley	22.5	2023	Delist
Rhett Bazzo	18.5	2023
Sam Petrevski-Seton	24.1	2023	+1
Xavier O'Neill	21.7	2023	Delist
Zac Langdon	26.4	2023	Delist

The only players i would extend now or early next year are Hough & Chesser. McGovern & Cripps depending on how their bodies are, should be given a 2 yr extension then drip fed 1 yr until retirement.
I'd say that we have seen enough of Petruccelle & Waterman to know they will only be bit part players and I would be open to trading either or both. Williams & Bazzo probably get another year each to see what they have but i'm not convinced either will make it at this point.

Delist Foley? Seriously?

 

[dinnaz]

Delist Foley? Seriously?

He's had 4 years on the list and doesn't provide any more than Cole, Nelson, Witherden, Duggan, Rotham, Chesser ...
He's the kind of guy who plays 10 games a year and looks ok for 5 years. But wont provide any meaningful rebound, intercept marking ability just the solid-good skills.
Do you see him being a 200 gamer West Coast great in 10 years time?

 

[briztoon]

How did Hewitt look yesterday?

 

[Biggie]

He's had 4 years on the list and doesn't provide any more than Cole, Nelson, Witherden, Duggan, Rotham, Chesser ...
He's the kind of guy who plays 10 games a year and looks ok for 5 years. But wont provide any meaningful rebound, intercept marking ability just the solid-good skills.
Do you see him being a 200 gamer West Coast great in 10 years time?

Yes I do.

He is more physical than Witho, Chesser hasnt even played yet.

He has overtaken Rotham. Nelson? Come on mate.

Duggan is better. Cole marginally.

 

[KBLT]

He's had 4 years on the list and doesn't provide any more than Cole, Nelson, Witherden, Duggan, Rotham, Chesser ...
He's the kind of guy who plays 10 games a year and looks ok for 5 years. But wont provide any meaningful rebound, intercept marking ability just the solid-good skills.
Do you see him being a 200 gamer West Coast great in 10 years time?

If the criteria for keeping players is "Will they be club legends?", we may as well delist 95% of the team. Depth is good.

Jack Redden isn't going to go down as one of our best ever, but we'd be a worse team if we'd cut him in the past.

 

[WCErevival]

Player​	OOC​	Status​
Aaron Black	2022​	1Yr
Alex Witherden	2022​	2Yr
Angus Dewar	2022​	Delist
Bailey Williams	2022​	2Yr
Brayden Ainsworth	2022​	Delist
Callum Jamieson	2022​	Delist
Connor West	2022​	1Yr
Declan Mountford	2022​	Delist
Hugh Dixon	2022​	1Yr
Isiah Winder	2022​	1Yr
Jack Redden	2022​	2Yr
Jackson Nelson	2022​	2Yr
Jamaine Jones	2022​	1Yr
Joshua Kennedy	2022​	Retire
Logan Young	2022​	Delist
Luke Edwards	2022​	2Yr
Luke Meadows	2022​	Delist
Luke Shuey	2022​	1Yr
Luke Strnadica	2022​	1Yr
Nicholas Naitanui	2022​	2Yr
Patrick Naish	2022​	2Yr
Shannon Hurn	2022​	Retire
Stefan Giro	2022​	Delist
Tom Cole	2022​	2Yr
Tom Joyce	2022​	Delist
Willie Rioli	2022​	2Yr
Zane Trew	2022​	Delist

I'd just give everyone 1 year contracts to be honest, or cut them.

How do we give Black 1 year when he's not on our list.