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I disagree. It’s another data point that can be analysed. It gives some evidence of goal scoring opportunities and the averages from those opportunities. It also gives evidence of a team’s goal kicking in relation to averages. If a team was consistently scoring below their expected, it would point to poor routines or technique throughout the squad.
There was a tweet I posted in a different thread that says despite getting the most shots at goal, we are below AFL average for conversion. Melbourne on the other hand were on top
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My thoughts on poor conversion are the same as I had last year. Given it wasn't just our kicking for goal (the last disposal) that was poor, but also our kicking inside 50 (the second-last disposal), it's actually a wonder we were as close as we were tbh.
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I think we are particularly poor at delivering to forwards directly in front. Our F50 marks and set shots often seem to be off at a tough angle.
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It's really tough to judge because I feel like we are often at our best when we are getting the ball in long and fast, letting our forwards get to work.
Aka, long bombing.
We did that yesterday and it just wasn't working. May & Lever were mopping up everything. We needed to try lowering our eyes and identifying leading targets and/or those forwards needed to be better at leading so they could be better targets in the first place. It was probably a combination of both.
Yet there have been other games where we've tried to lower our eyes and identify leading targets, and it hasn't worked, then we started bombing it long and having far more success there.
So perhaps the solution isn't to bomb it more, or to lower our eyes more, but to simply be better at adjusting between the two based on what we need during any given game. It didn't feel like that adjustment was there yesterday. It felt like we just kept doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. A strength of ours last year was our ability to adjust our game style based on the game we were in. If we can do the same with our midfield-forward connection, we will be a lot better off.
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Some on here just don't get that
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If we bring in Sheldrick he needs to play mids, not forward.
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Full training last week apparently
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Full training end of last and this
But they like to put 2 or 3 weeks full training into them , i would love him back , but not worth the risk . Really need Hickey as well .
What was your thoughts on Ladhams ?
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Found another one. Not sure I agree with the sentiment but "Big Sooky Shitman" is one of the best insults I've seen.
I actually thought Amartey competed well when on the ball apart from his kicking
Havnt read this thread at all.. sh*thouse game!
but yep, I thought Amartey showed again glimpses of what he can do. Touch wood, he stays fit
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Amartey was good in the ruck . Won himself a few clearances.
Ladhams shits me no end when he has the ball and feels the need to fake a kick or handball every time. Just get rid of it, or better yet try avoid getting involved in link up play and let the blokes who are paid to move the ball do so
Ladhams shits me no end when he has the ball and feels the need to fake a kick or handball every time. Just get rid of it, or better yet try avoid getting involved in link up play and let the blokes who are paid to move the ball do so
He won't kick
On expected score, you won't see Melbourne kick 21.8 again this year, I doubt that accuracy will be repeated more than a handful of times.
I remember when we lost to Essendon last year and they kicked 15.5 and were never that accurate again.
I remember beating Geelong, kicking 17.5, and guess what, we were never that accurate again.
The reason why expected score is useful is because accuracy tends to even out, and missing shots close to goal is better for the future than kicking goals from the boundary.
If we played the demons tomorrow they wouldn't kick 21.8, they would probably still win, but Melbourne won't replicate that accuracy.
I remember when we lost to Essendon last year and they kicked 15.5 and were never that accurate again.
I remember beating Geelong, kicking 17.5, and guess what, we were never that accurate again.
The reason why expected score is useful is because accuracy tends to even out, and missing shots close to goal is better for the future than kicking goals from the boundary.
If we played the demons tomorrow they wouldn't kick 21.8, they would probably still win, but Melbourne won't replicate that accuracy.
Yeah I'm not saying he has been bad just think he hasn't been as explosive as last year. I don't even expect him to get 30, but still feel he has been down a bit. But yep, I have no doubt he will turn it around.
3 rounds so far ffs and he was BOG in R1
Calm down ffs. I know it's early on in the season. I even said I have no doubt he will turn it around. Was just my observation and opinion. I am not even bagging him was just a bloody observation.
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On reflection, I reckon there were a few factors to our loss:
1. We came off two easy wins and weren’t able to switch on the from the start and had forgotten a little bit what it takes once when the game is on line (ill discipline, falling away in the last).
2. Melbourne were up for this game. We have to remember that they were favourites when we beat them at the G in finals last year. They would have come prepared to not make the same mistakes again, and they didn’t.
3. Their list is a little more progressed than ours. I think Horse was right in the presser to note their depth of AA players and the gap with ours. I won’t say we can’t win this year, because I thought that last year and then we really turned in on - but we are away from being able to play to our potential right through the year.
1. We came off two easy wins and weren’t able to switch on the from the start and had forgotten a little bit what it takes once when the game is on line (ill discipline, falling away in the last).
2. Melbourne were up for this game. We have to remember that they were favourites when we beat them at the G in finals last year. They would have come prepared to not make the same mistakes again, and they didn’t.
3. Their list is a little more progressed than ours. I think Horse was right in the presser to note their depth of AA players and the gap with ours. I won’t say we can’t win this year, because I thought that last year and then we really turned in on - but we are away from being able to play to our potential right through the year.
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