List Mgmt. Draft Needs 2018 #2: Rankine / Lukosius / Rozee / Hately, I'm knocking Woodcock out the box, daily!

[hey shorty]

You say a lot of things that are plain wrong

In your opinion..... which is often wrong

 

[Glenny83]

If we were to trade our 2019 first round pick, we need to gain any 3rd and 4th round selection for 2019. It’s not out of the question, round three starts at pick 40 this year.


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[hey shorty]

If we sell the farm and end up taking luko, I might as well ban myself from here for a few months.

*Having said this I think we'll take rankine.

I've never hoped we take Luko more than I do right now

 

[Jack is Back]

The King of the Draft clarified on 5aa today that a team has to have all other picks for next years draft if they want to trade next years first rounder tomorrow night. He said 8 teams were unable to trade next years draft pick tomorrow night, which included us.

You would think we could trade say 8 + 16 + next years first rounder if we get back a second and third rounder for next year.

Unfortunately the VFL make this shit up so I expect that if we look like we are anywhere near Luko or Izak it will be “No Deal”

 

[Samcro24]

The King of the Draft clarified on 5aa today that a team has to have all other picks for next years draft if they want to trade next years first rounder tomorrow night. He said 8 teams were unable to trade next years draft pick tomorrow night, which included us.

You would think we could trade say 8 + 16 + next years first rounder if we get back a second and third rounder for next year.

Unfortunately the VFL make this shit up so I expect that if we look like we are anywhere near Luko or Izak it will be “No Deal”

Who is this king you speak of?

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Sorry that doesn’t make sense. If anything this year there is more incentive for us to trade up and more for GC to trade down. Therefore we are more likely to offer overs and GC are more likely to accept unders, or at least a fair deal.

If our supporters think 8, 13 and next years 1st is worth more than pick 3, then you can be sure that GC would feel the same and jump at it. This is how all trading through history has worked.

Ok look forward to it happening

 

[Danger in Texas]

Don’t mind that at all. Pace, midfield depth, bit of in your face niggle. Yah I dig it. Especially like the O’Halloran pick that later. Love Caldwell and am a fan of Butters. Just seems like a great personality.

I think it’s a good mix too. I love Butters, think he’s a great character and has superb footy smarts, he’s a top 12 prospect in last year’s draft easy. Do think that overall we could go a bit taller, though

Gut feeling is now that RCD will be there at 13, so that helps

 

[Stiffy_18]

Until the clubs with their eye on a certain player still on the board offer up a 2019 1st round pick anyway.

I reckon there will be a club or two that will come knocking for that pick 21 offering us a future 1st or 2nd. If its a 1st, we would have to look at it surely?

 

[GROTTO]

About to enter the Penultimate day before the draft. Time to get excited.

 

[Shaz2012]

I reckon there will be a club or two that will come knocking for that pick 21 offering us a future 1st or 2nd. If its a 1st, we would have to look at it surely?

Not necessarily. A late first next year isn’t that much better than the pick we have. Remember it’s the 2nd rounder of the wooden spooner. GC made a similar mistake with WC last year.

 

[GROTTO]

I reckon there will be a club or two that will come knocking for that pick 21 offering us a future 1st or 2nd. If its a 1st, we would have to look at it surely?

I think all of that is shaped by what happens with our first two picks and if we draft or trade up.

 

[GROTTO]

Who is this king you speak of?

 

[CutAboveTheRest]

Mark Stevens would be close to the most biased journo around.

Slightly OT

Mclure says g'day

 

[flashcrow]

Having carefully read the previous 7,737 posts. I have come to one certain conclusion: https://www.tickcounter.com/countdown/836860/crows-board-meltdown

 

[Morning_Fog]

About to enter the Penultimate day before the draft. Time to get excited.

Today is actually the antepenultimate

 

[FR0GGY]

Who is this king you speak of?

Some afl official.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Not necessarily. A late first next year isn’t that much better than the pick we have. Remember it’s the 2nd rounder of the wooden spooner. GC made a similar mistake with WC last year.

Sure but, for us we have a 1st and 2nd next year. We don’t have a 3rd or a 4th. Having more first round picks spread across a 2 year period is better for us than having them in one draft. Even if the team goes on to win a flag, its still a late first rounder. Now the talent at that point might be different but a 1st round pick generally hold a higher value.

For example if that pick is 14 or 15 next year, all of a sudden it looks a pretty good pick. It means 5 first round picks over 2 year period. Huge for the club. This is all provided we don’t trade up. But even if we do, we replenish a pick we possibly trade out for upgrade this year, for an extra pick next year.

It would be such an Adelaide thing to do.

 

[Crow till I die]

Not necessarily. A late first next year isn’t that much better than the pick we have. Remember it’s the 2nd rounder of the wooden spooner. GC made a similar mistake with WC last year.

Think long game. If we trade it for a 2019 1st even if it is a mid round 1st we have 2 for next year. We can then trade a 2019 1st next year for a 2020 1st in preparation to pay for luko or rankine when they tell GC they are gone and only want to be traded to the crows

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Think long game. If we trade it for a 2019 1st even if it is a mid round 1st we have 2 for next year. We can then trade a 2019 1st next year for a 2020 1st in preparation to pay for luko or rankine when they tell GC they are gone and only want to be traded to the crows

Exactly - gives both draft and trade options in future

All depends on who is left at 21 and how high we rate them

If it’s the 10th or 12th guy on our list we use it if it’s a later guy we trade it

 

[Shaz2012]

Sure but, for us we have a 1st and 2nd next year. We don’t have a 3rd or a 4th. Havinf more first round picks spread across a 2 year period is better for us than having them in one draft. Even if the team goes on to win a flag, its still a late first rounder. Now the talent at that point might be different but a 1st round pick generally hold a higher value.

For example if that pick is 14 or 15 next year, all of a sudden it looks a pretty good pick. It means 5 first round picks over 2 year period. Huge for the club. This is all provided we don’t trade up. But even if we do, we replenish a pick we possibly trade out for upgrade this year, for an extra pick next year.

It would be such an Adelaide thing to do.

Think long game. If we trade it for a 2019 1st even if it is a mid round 1st we have 2 for next year. We can then trade a 2019 1st next year for a 2020 1st in preparation to pay for luko or rankine when they tell GC they are gone and only want to be traded to the crows

Agree with both of you. No issue with doing that. But its very much a lottery where most clubs finish next year. We got burnt by Melbourne doing probably exactly what I expected them to do in the home and away. But not what I expected in finals. Nobody expected WCE to be premiers. But it does nicely allow us to spread our firsts over 2 years.

If Bailey Williams is on the board at 21 I am taking him. Otherwise I am happy to trade into the first round next year with most clubs.

 

[jackster83]

Exactly - gives both draft and trade options in future

All depends on who is left at 21 and how high we rate them

If it’s the 10th or 12th guy on our list we use it if it’s a later guy we trade it

Also depends on how highly we rate next year's draft crop.

Wish we hadn't thrown in an extra third rounder in the McGovern trade. We let Carlton off way too lightly.

 

[macca23]

In less than 48 hours time we will know what we have netted with our first 3 picks whether that be a straight 3 pick or a trade-up situation (any trade-down is likely to be pick 21 - I do expect several offers for that one)

It's bloody exciting isn't it!! Can't wait!!

Whichever way it goes, we have the ammo. I reckon we'll be more than happy either way.

In Ogilvie we trust!!

 

[Shaz2012]

Also depends on how highly we rate next year's draft crop.

Wish we hadn't thrown in an extra third rounder in the McGovern trade. We let Carlton off way too lightly.

We did and I agree. But I am glad we moved swiftly to nail down pick 13. Had to get that done. If it results in RCD for us then I don’t really care that we gave Carlton a free 2019 3rd rounder.

If McAdam turns out to be a best 22 player then it turns the trade around on its head as well.

 

[GrommoT]

In less than 48 hours time we will know what we have netted with our first 3 picks whether that be a straight 3 pick or a trade-up situation (any trade-down is likely to be pick 21 - I do expect several offers for that one)

It's bloody exciting isn't it!! Can't wait!!

Whichever way it goes, we have the ammo. I reckon we'll be more than happy either way.

In Ogilvie we trust!!

 

[El Doederino]

Some ITK was on here saying we were heavy into Butters