List Mgmt. Draft Needs 2018 #2: Rankine / Lukosius / Rozee / Hately, I'm knocking Woodcock out the box, daily!

[Jeffcrowe]

Seems that way doesn’t it, without trading and bids it looks like this is how it’ll go

Carl Walsh
GC Luko
GC Rankine
St K M King
PA Rozee
GC B King
WB Smith
Adel Caldwell

Think that’s all very likely with B King the main query there

 

[Bicks]

Pass on Smith

How about 7/27 gets us 4. We take the Kings at 4 and 8, leave Smith for the Saints at 7

So instead of one flight risk you're taking two? Cause you can bet if one gets "itchy" feet the other one will if you believe the folklore often said about twins....

 

[Danger in Texas]

Think that’s all very likely with B King the main query there

Yeah they could still take Caldwell yet IMO, but probably only 25% likely going off the noise

 

[ams4crows]

Interesting Cal saying that if Smith doesn't go to WB he will likely slip to 12 to Geelong as he's a definite flight risk.

which is sad, beacuse he would be great in our team, just been burnt too many times before

 

[Shaz2012]

Interesting Cal saying that if Smith doesn't go to WB he will likely slip to 12 to Geelong as he's a definite flight risk.

So is Rankine. Worst case we would have 10 clubs fighting for Smith in 2 years time. That sets the price for Rankine. Best case, he buys in and becomes a club legend.

 

[Danger in Texas]

So is Rankine. Worst case we would have 10 clubs fighting for Smith in 2 years time. That sets the price for Rankine. Best case, he buys in and becomes a club legend.

2020: Out Smith, in Rankine

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Pass on Smith

How about 7/27 gets us 4. We take the Kings at 4 and 8, leave Smith for the Saints at 7

Interesting that IIRC Twomey said, if Smith gets past the Bulldogs at #7 ......he'll in all probability end up at Geelong at #12 ???

So is this plain outright Draft tampering ?? ......so, GWS, Port, Adelaide (all interstate clubs) coincidentally overlook Smith ? ......this is a cancer, clearly Draft tampering, and it's getting worse

 

[Tex200]

Think the Smith go home talk is overblown to be honest (unless you’ve heard otherwise), wouldn’t surprise me if he just didn’t want to go to GC, for the sake of his development lol

I’d love Smith at 7, he’s only just behind Walsh as a prospect IMO

Only what I read somewhere - something about him having supplied a medical report?

 

[Danger in Texas]

Interesting that IIRC Twomey said, if Smith gets past the Bulldogs at #7 ......he'll in all probability end up at Geelong at #12 ???

So is this plain outright Draft tampering ?? ......so, GWS, Port, Adelaide (all interstate clubs) coincidentally overlook Smith ? ......this is a cancer, clearly Draft tampering, and it's getting worse

IMO it’s a bit of Vic bias reporting, too. Cal is probably assuming we’ll pass because of said flight risk. If he wasn’t too bad in interviews (if he was it IS draft tampering), Hamish will take him - that’s how he rolls

 

[Danger in Texas]

Only what I read somewhere - something about him having supplied a medical report?

Yeah I saw that, what could Smith possibly have that prevents him from going interstate? I can’t think of anything

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Only what I read somewhere - something about him having supplied a medical report?

Preventing him from leaving the state of Victoria ?

 

[Tex200]

So instead of one flight risk you're taking two? Cause you can bet if one gets "itchy" feet the other one will if you believe the folklore often said about twins....

I've posted before I'd be happy with the risk if we had one and Port the other.

Having them together in the same team reduces the risk even more.

Smith has always looked a major flight risk and as we get closer the leaks keep coming

 

[Crouch#44]

Smith is a good chance to land at the saints at 4

 

[WaynesWorld19]

IMO it’s a bit of Vic bias reporting, too. Cal is probably assuming we’ll pass because of said flight risk. If he wasn’t too bad in interviews (if he was it IS draft tampering), Hamish will take him - that’s how he rolls

If it's good enough for GC to take Rankine .....it's good enough for us to take Smith !

 

[FR0GGY]

Is this the year of the flight risks?
Smith
B King
M King
Rankine
Interesting you don’t hear players past rd 2 being flight risks.

 

[pjcrows]

The "issue" with Smith is that he has a long-time Vic girlfriend, and both families are close, with well-established ties in Melbourne.

It sounds rather familiar.

On face value I'd take Smith before Rozee, tbh, but I wouldn't based on the flight risk.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Smith is a good chance to land at the saints at 4

Info?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

The "issue" with Smith is that he has a long-time Vic girlfriend, and both families are close, with well-established ties in Melbourne.

It sounds rather familiar.

On face value I'd take Smith before Rozee, tbh, but I wouldn't based on the flight risk.

At 17 years old ......by god, get a life and do some living first

 

[Bicks]

The Advertiser football writer Andrew Capel predicts the first-round draft order



1 — CARLTON

Sam Walsh.

Sam Walsh. Picture: Tony Gough
Midfielder, 18, 184cm, 77kg, Geelong Falcons (Vic)

All-Australian U18 captain carries the label of “Mr Perfect’’ because of his professionalism and work ethic. A ball magnet and leader who Patrick Dangerfield says is the next Joel Selwood.

2 — GOLD COAST

Jack Lukosius

Jack Lukosius. Picture: AAP Image/Russell Millard
Key forward, 18, 195cm, 83kg, Woodville-West Torrens (SA)

Versatile tall is so quick and agile he can play just about anywhere. Covers the ground like Nick Riewoldt and is the best kick SA talent manager Brenton Phillips says he has seen come through the U18 program.

3 — GOLD COAST

Izak Rankine

Izak Rankine. Picture: Michael Dodge/Getty Images
Forward/midfielder, 18, 179cm, 79kg, West Adelaide (SA)

Rated by Champion Data as the best player in the draft and is the only dual All-Australian U18 in the pool. Possesses gamebreaking speed and skill in the mould of dual Crows Norm Smith Medallist Andrew McLeod.

4 — ST KILDA

Max King

Max King. Picture: Daniel Pockett/Getty Images
Key forward, 18, 204cm, 90kg, Sandringham Dragons (Vic)

Powerhouse forward kicked eight goals from 15 shots in round one of the TAC Cup before rupturing his ACL and undergoing a knee reconstruction. Was in contention for pick 1 prior to his injury.

5 — PORT ADELAIDE

Connor Rozee

Connor Rozee, left. Picture: Sarah Reed
Midfielder/utility, 18, 185cm, 74kg, North Adelaide (SA)

Won the Kevin Sheehan Medal as best player at the U16 national championships two years ago and rose up the draft board with a standout league finals campaign for North. Has all the tools — speed, skill, jumping ability and aggression.

6 — GOLD COAST

Ben King

Ben King. Picture: AAP Image/David Crosling
Key forward/defender, 18, 202cm, 87kg, Sandringham Dragons (Vic)

Twin brother of Max is a versatile tall who is a proven force at either end of the ground. Strong overhead, quick and agile, he led the TAC Cup for average contested marks this year and his versatility makes him very appealing.

7 — WESTERN BULLDOGS

Bailey Smith

Bailey Smith, right. Picture: Quinn Rooney/Getty Images
Midfielder, 17, 185cm, 83kg, Sandringham Dragons (Vic)

The most explosive midfielder in the draft is so “obsessed’’ with football and his diet that he only eats between 2-9pm. Vic Metro’s MVP won the second-most disposals of any player at the championships, behind Walsh.

8 — SYDNEY

(Matching Adelaide’s bid)

Nick Blakey

Nick Blakey, left. Picture: Phil Hillyard
Tall forward/midfielder, 18, 195cm, 82kg, Sydney Swans Academy (NSW)

Crows are tipped to bid for the gun utility and the Swans will match. Exceptional overhead and very athletic for his size. Left-footer was the No. 2 ranked player in the AFL Academy series, averaging 18 disposals and 4 goals. Son of former Lion and Kangaroo John Blakey.

9 — NORTH MELBOURNE

(Matching Adelaide’s bid)

Tarryn Thomas

Tarryn Thomas. Picture: Chris Kidd
Midfielder, 18, 188cm, 82kg, North Launceston (Tas)

Crows are tipped to bid for the exciting playmaker and the Roos have the right to match for their Next Generation Academy prospect. Has been inconsistent but oozes class and X-factor in the mould of Shaun Burgoyne.

10 — ADELAIDE

Jye Caldwell

Jye Caldwell, left. Picture: Nigel Hallett
Midfielder, 18, 184cm, 82kg, Bendigo Pioneers (Vic)

Tough and competitive, he had an injury-plagued season but is highly-regarded because of his explosiveness and ability to win the ball on the inside and outside. Plays like West Coast Norm Smith Medallist Luke Shuey.

11 — GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY

Jordan Clark

Jordan Clark, left. Picture: Paul Kane/Getty Images
Half-back, 18, 185cm, 81kg, Claremont (WA)

Australian under-16 cricket fast bowler has been a draft bolter as a classy, rebounding defender. Has played senior football for Claremont and can quickly turn defence into attack. Is recovering from glandular fever.

12 — PORT ADELAIDE

Jackson Hately

Jackson Hately. Picture: Matt Loxton
Midfielder, 18, 189cm, 80kg, Central District (SA)

Is so impressive on and off the field that SA under-18 coach Tony Bamford says he is the sort of kid you would want to adopt. On-baller is an inside beast and has improved his outside game, making him a modern utility type.

13 — GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY

Riley Collier-Dawkins

Riley Collier-Dawkins.
Midfielder, 18, 190cm, 91kg, Oakleigh Chargers (Vic)

Powerful and strong, he can break away from stoppages and make things happen for his team. Hasn’t yet been a big ballwinner but has the ability to go forward and take a strong mark and kick a goal.

14 — GEELONG

Chayce Jones

Chayce Jones. Picture: Chris Kidd
Small midfielder/forward, 18, 180cm, 77kg, Launceston (Tas)

Only slight but has a ferocity for the contest and is strong overhead for his height. Averaged 21 disposals and seven tackles for the Allies in the under-18 national championships and featured in the top five for metres gained, pressure acts and score involvements.

15 — COLLINGWOOD

(Matching Adelaide’s bid)

Isaac Quaynor

Isaac Quaynor. Picture: Michael Willson/Getty Images
Half-back, 18, 180cm, 83kg, Oakleigh Chargers (Vic)

Crows are tipped to make another bid on an NGA player and the Magpies should match. A versatile defender of African heritage who can play both tall and small. He’s powerful, a good decision maker and uses the ball well.

16 — ADELAIDE

Zak Butters

Zak Butters. Picture: Michael Klein
Midfielder, 18, 181cm, 71kg, Western Jets (Vic)

Only light but is smart and runs and carries the ball with great effect. Is creative and a good user of the footy. Did not test at the AFL Draft Combine because of a shoulder injury but can play as a midfielder or small forward.

17 — FREMANTLE

Ian Hill

Ian Hill. Picture: Adam Trafford/AFL Media
Small forward/midfielder, 18, 175cm, 65kg, Perth (WA)

The cousin of Dockers Stephen and Brad Hill could get the chance to play alongside them next year. Had an injury-interrupted year but is lightning-quick, oozes class and has a great eye for goal.

18 — PORT ADELAIDE

Xavier Duursma

Xavier Duursma. Picture: Daniel Pockett/AFL Media
Midfielder, 18, 186cm, 73kg, Gippsland Power (Vic)

Classy on-baller/half-back has an exciting burst of speed and can set up play like Carlton’s Sam Docherty. Is rangy and hard at it and breaks the lines. Averaged 23 disposals for Gippsland this year.

19 — ADELAIDE

Ned McHenry

Edward McHenry. Picture: AAP Image/David Crosling
Small forward/midfielder, 18, 178cm, 71kg, Geelong Falcons (Vic)

SA under-18 MVP Luke Valente will come under consideration for the Crows here but they might be able to get him with their next pick. McHenry is a tough, competitive small forward who can also play in the midfield.

20 — RICHMOND.

Liam Stocker

Liam Stocker with the Morrish Medal.
Midfielder, 18, 183cm, 85kg, Sandringham Dragons (Vic)

Strong and powerful, he won the Morrish Medal as the best player in the under-18 TAC Cup. Has a love for the contest, kicks the ball well and could be ready to step straight into the cauldron of the AFL.

21 — BRISBANE

Curtis Taylor

Curtis Taylor. Picture: Michael Klein
Half-forward/midfielder, 18, 187cm, 78kg, Calder Cannons (Vic)

Plays a bit like Magpie Will Hoskin-Elliott in that he is versatile, good overhead and has some mercurial ability. Oozes class, has very good goal sense and can push up into the midfield.

22 — GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY

Sam Sturt

Sam Sturt. Picture: Hamish Blair
Forward, 18, 189cm, 74kg, Dandenong Stingrays (Vic)

Left-footed medium forward was a talented cricketer who has put the sport on hold to pursue an AFL career. Leads well and has strong hands. Played a major role in the Stingrays’ first TAC Cup premiership.

 

[Danger in Texas]

If it's good enough for GC to take Rankine .....it's good enough for us to take Smith !

Interestingly, Balmer said in his ‘who else’ section for our first pick that we will be into Smith if he’s available

Makes me think it’s definitely overplayed

 

[FR0GGY]

At 17 years old ......by god, get a life and do some living first

Jack watts likes this

 

[FAITH]

Someone on here keeps saying hes the best or 2nd best mid in this draft, yet possibly slip to 12.

Something ain't right.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

The Advertiser football writer Andrew Capel predicts the first-round draft order



1 — CARLTON

Sam Walsh.

Sam Walsh. Picture: Tony Gough
Midfielder, 18, 184cm, 77kg, Geelong Falcons (Vic)

All-Australian U18 captain carries the label of “Mr Perfect’’ because of his professionalism and work ethic. A ball magnet and leader who Patrick Dangerfield says is the next Joel Selwood.

2 — GOLD COAST

Jack Lukosius

Jack Lukosius. Picture: AAP Image/Russell Millard
Key forward, 18, 195cm, 83kg, Woodville-West Torrens (SA)

Versatile tall is so quick and agile he can play just about anywhere. Covers the ground like Nick Riewoldt and is the best kick SA talent manager Brenton Phillips says he has seen come through the U18 program.

3 — GOLD COAST

Izak Rankine

Izak Rankine. Picture: Michael Dodge/Getty Images
Forward/midfielder, 18, 179cm, 79kg, West Adelaide (SA)

Rated by Champion Data as the best player in the draft and is the only dual All-Australian U18 in the pool. Possesses gamebreaking speed and skill in the mould of dual Crows Norm Smith Medallist Andrew McLeod.

4 — ST KILDA

Max King

Max King. Picture: Daniel Pockett/Getty Images
Key forward, 18, 204cm, 90kg, Sandringham Dragons (Vic)

Powerhouse forward kicked eight goals from 15 shots in round one of the TAC Cup before rupturing his ACL and undergoing a knee reconstruction. Was in contention for pick 1 prior to his injury.

5 — PORT ADELAIDE

Connor Rozee

Connor Rozee, left. Picture: Sarah Reed
Midfielder/utility, 18, 185cm, 74kg, North Adelaide (SA)

Won the Kevin Sheehan Medal as best player at the U16 national championships two years ago and rose up the draft board with a standout league finals campaign for North. Has all the tools — speed, skill, jumping ability and aggression.

6 — GOLD COAST

Ben King

Ben King. Picture: AAP Image/David Crosling
Key forward/defender, 18, 202cm, 87kg, Sandringham Dragons (Vic)

Twin brother of Max is a versatile tall who is a proven force at either end of the ground. Strong overhead, quick and agile, he led the TAC Cup for average contested marks this year and his versatility makes him very appealing.

7 — WESTERN BULLDOGS

Bailey Smith

Bailey Smith, right. Picture: Quinn Rooney/Getty Images
Midfielder, 17, 185cm, 83kg, Sandringham Dragons (Vic)

The most explosive midfielder in the draft is so “obsessed’’ with football and his diet that he only eats between 2-9pm. Vic Metro’s MVP won the second-most disposals of any player at the championships, behind Walsh.

8 — SYDNEY

(Matching Adelaide’s bid)

Nick Blakey

Nick Blakey, left. Picture: Phil Hillyard
Tall forward/midfielder, 18, 195cm, 82kg, Sydney Swans Academy (NSW)

Crows are tipped to bid for the gun utility and the Swans will match. Exceptional overhead and very athletic for his size. Left-footer was the No. 2 ranked player in the AFL Academy series, averaging 18 disposals and 4 goals. Son of former Lion and Kangaroo John Blakey.

9 — NORTH MELBOURNE

(Matching Adelaide’s bid)

Tarryn Thomas

Tarryn Thomas. Picture: Chris Kidd
Midfielder, 18, 188cm, 82kg, North Launceston (Tas)

Crows are tipped to bid for the exciting playmaker and the Roos have the right to match for their Next Generation Academy prospect. Has been inconsistent but oozes class and X-factor in the mould of Shaun Burgoyne.

10 — ADELAIDE

Jye Caldwell

Jye Caldwell, left. Picture: Nigel Hallett
Midfielder, 18, 184cm, 82kg, Bendigo Pioneers (Vic)

Tough and competitive, he had an injury-plagued season but is highly-regarded because of his explosiveness and ability to win the ball on the inside and outside. Plays like West Coast Norm Smith Medallist Luke Shuey.

11 — GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY

Jordan Clark

Jordan Clark, left. Picture: Paul Kane/Getty Images
Half-back, 18, 185cm, 81kg, Claremont (WA)

Australian under-16 cricket fast bowler has been a draft bolter as a classy, rebounding defender. Has played senior football for Claremont and can quickly turn defence into attack. Is recovering from glandular fever.

12 — PORT ADELAIDE

Jackson Hately

Jackson Hately. Picture: Matt Loxton
Midfielder, 18, 189cm, 80kg, Central District (SA)

Is so impressive on and off the field that SA under-18 coach Tony Bamford says he is the sort of kid you would want to adopt. On-baller is an inside beast and has improved his outside game, making him a modern utility type.

13 — GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY

Riley Collier-Dawkins

Riley Collier-Dawkins.
Midfielder, 18, 190cm, 91kg, Oakleigh Chargers (Vic)

Powerful and strong, he can break away from stoppages and make things happen for his team. Hasn’t yet been a big ballwinner but has the ability to go forward and take a strong mark and kick a goal.

14 — GEELONG

Chayce Jones

Chayce Jones. Picture: Chris Kidd
Small midfielder/forward, 18, 180cm, 77kg, Launceston (Tas)

Only slight but has a ferocity for the contest and is strong overhead for his height. Averaged 21 disposals and seven tackles for the Allies in the under-18 national championships and featured in the top five for metres gained, pressure acts and score involvements.

15 — COLLINGWOOD

(Matching Adelaide’s bid)

Isaac Quaynor

Isaac Quaynor. Picture: Michael Willson/Getty Images
Half-back, 18, 180cm, 83kg, Oakleigh Chargers (Vic)

Crows are tipped to make another bid on an NGA player and the Magpies should match. A versatile defender of African heritage who can play both tall and small. He’s powerful, a good decision maker and uses the ball well.

16 — ADELAIDE

Zak Butters

Zak Butters. Picture: Michael Klein
Midfielder, 18, 181cm, 71kg, Western Jets (Vic)

Only light but is smart and runs and carries the ball with great effect. Is creative and a good user of the footy. Did not test at the AFL Draft Combine because of a shoulder injury but can play as a midfielder or small forward.

17 — FREMANTLE

Ian Hill

Ian Hill. Picture: Adam Trafford/AFL Media
Small forward/midfielder, 18, 175cm, 65kg, Perth (WA)

The cousin of Dockers Stephen and Brad Hill could get the chance to play alongside them next year. Had an injury-interrupted year but is lightning-quick, oozes class and has a great eye for goal.

18 — PORT ADELAIDE

Xavier Duursma

Xavier Duursma. Picture: Daniel Pockett/AFL Media
Midfielder, 18, 186cm, 73kg, Gippsland Power (Vic)

Classy on-baller/half-back has an exciting burst of speed and can set up play like Carlton’s Sam Docherty. Is rangy and hard at it and breaks the lines. Averaged 23 disposals for Gippsland this year.

19 — ADELAIDE

Ned McHenry

Edward McHenry. Picture: AAP Image/David Crosling
Small forward/midfielder, 18, 178cm, 71kg, Geelong Falcons (Vic)

SA under-18 MVP Luke Valente will come under consideration for the Crows here but they might be able to get him with their next pick. McHenry is a tough, competitive small forward who can also play in the midfield.

20 — RICHMOND.

Liam Stocker

Liam Stocker with the Morrish Medal.
Midfielder, 18, 183cm, 85kg, Sandringham Dragons (Vic)

Strong and powerful, he won the Morrish Medal as the best player in the under-18 TAC Cup. Has a love for the contest, kicks the ball well and could be ready to step straight into the cauldron of the AFL.

21 — BRISBANE

Curtis Taylor

Curtis Taylor. Picture: Michael Klein
Half-forward/midfielder, 18, 187cm, 78kg, Calder Cannons (Vic)

Plays a bit like Magpie Will Hoskin-Elliott in that he is versatile, good overhead and has some mercurial ability. Oozes class, has very good goal sense and can push up into the midfield.

22 — GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY

Sam Sturt

Sam Sturt. Picture: Hamish Blair
Forward, 18, 189cm, 74kg, Dandenong Stingrays (Vic)

Left-footed medium forward was a talented cricketer who has put the sport on hold to pursue an AFL career. Leads well and has strong hands. Played a major role in the Stingrays’ first TAC Cup premiership.

Just a cut and paste of an already posted Phantom Draft .......why FFS put your name to an article, that's clearly not your own work

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Interestingly, Balmer said in his ‘who else’ section for our first pick that we will be into Smith if he’s available

Makes me think it’s definitely overplayed

Unless, Smith and his long term girlfriend are about to start a family ....and live in Moggs Creek

 

[Danger in Texas]

Is it just me or are a LOT of the first round mocks similar this year?

Common picks include:
Us - Caldwell, McHenry
Port - Rozee, Duursma
Freo - Hill
Rich - Stocker
GWS - Sturt
Bris - Taylor

Plus the same five going in between 9-13 (no bids included) no matter what

It’s a strange year for phantoms