Review Good/Bad v Essendon, Round 4

[MRB37]

One thing I do love about Cameron is his ability to apply repeated pressure/tackles in quick succession.

He comes blitzing in and lays a big tackle, ball is out on the ground or to an opponent and he's up quick as a flash and already chasing down the next opponent.

 

[Huntercrow]

Hampton is very strong inside. Twice he stood up with the ball from the bottom of the pack.
There is something there.

 

[Sanders]

Statement made.

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Not really. Only a fool would place credence on afl player rankings

 

[CEY Crow]

You do realise dougy dominated round
3 with 29 possessions ? Against GWS and port he took down bigger names

He's back

I've seen glimpses of him getting back to his best. I'm more concerned if Sloane starts getting a heavy tag (which i think some teams might try after his blistering start), Dougie will need to become our inside/outside link man. Would have been confident 3 seasons ago, am 50/50 today that he will step up - but I hope you are right and he is back. Brad Crouch returning will help as well.

 

[Simon Crawshay]

How good has Eddie Betts been for your club? Renind me again what you gave to Carlton in exchange, a packet of salt n vinegar chips and a slab of tooheys red wasn't it? Oh my god did Malthouse and Daisy do a number on the Blues or what!

 

[Sanders]

How good has Eddie Betts been for your club? Renind me again what you gave to Carlton in exchange, a packet of salt n vinegar chips and a slab of tooheys red wasn't it? Oh my god did Malthouse and Daisy do a number on the Blues or what!

Less

Free agent

 

[Jeffcrowe]

How good has Eddie Betts been for your club? Renind me again what you gave to Carlton in exchange, a packet of salt n vinegar chips and a slab of tooheys red wasn't it? Oh my god did Malthouse and Daisy do a number on the Blues or what!

Steven Trigg

 

[Danger in Texas]

Another thing - I don't think Atkins is getting enough credit for his game. Was extremely slick with ball in hand and got a season-high disposal count, to go with the two goals. His and Cameron's effort on the outside was brilliant IMO

 

[Sanders]

Steven Trigg

Bazinga!

 

[Geoffa32]

After watching our game last night and Ports against us and against GWS it seems to me the scrubber teams such as Port and Essendon seem to think to beat a quick ball moving team they need to get big numbers of players around the ball. And hold it in their forward half.

Port did it to us last week and GWS ladt night. Essendon did it last night in the third. It seems to be a modern take on the flood. Not just flooding the defensive half but locking the ball into one zone as long as you can.
Last night Essendon got big numbers in tbeir 50m zone. The ball stayed in there. But there was no clean ball so they could not score goals. But they stopped our run.

Port last week did something similar. They also did it against Sydney and GWS. Minimal goak scoring from a long period in their f50. But the intent is to stop our run from HB and thus a quick goal.


However it is unsustainable for an entire game and both us and GWS have been able to break it in the last quarter.

Both weeks I noticed we made that zone longer and broke up the cluster in Port and Essendon's forward line. That is how we broke it up and created space to score heavily again in both last quarters.



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[Glenno23]

Just re-watched the first Q and the first 2 mins of Q2 (up to where Smith smacks straight to Tex from the centre square) and Tex kicked his 5th

Smith was even better than i remembered up to that point. Vader has it sooooo wrong. Like more wrong than usual

 

[Deaneus!]

Crows by plenty. All my favourite players to star, Menzel to annihilate, Atkins to toy with them, Tex to beast-mode like the old Altered Beast video game.

Except for Menzel... totally called it. Oh, and Colyer. If we'd lost i'd have immediately entered him into the Callum Chambers Club.

And all you Otten first goalkicking people, you can thank me in this thread right here

 

[Glenno23]

After watching our game last night and Ports against us and against GWS it seems to me the scrubber teams such as Pkrt and Essendon seem to think to beat a quick ball moving team they need to get big numbers if players around the ball.

Port did it to us kast week and GWS. Essendon last night in the third. It seems to be a modern take on the flood. Not just flooding the defensive half but locking the ball into one zone as long as you can.
Last night Essendon got big numbers in tbeir 50m zone. The ball stayed in there. But there was no clean ball so they coukd not score goals. But they stopped our run.

Port last week did something similar. They also did it against Sydney and GWS. Minimal goak scoring from a long period in their f50. But the intent is to stop our run from HB and thus a quick goal.


However it is unsustainable for an entire game and we both us and GWS have been able to break in in the last quarter.

Both weeks I noticed we made that zone longer and broke up the cluster in Port and Essendon's firward line. That is how we broke it up and created space to score heavily again in both last quarters.



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Essendon also had large numbers around the ball for the easy out in Q3 last night too. Just seemed they had an out every single time. I don't think you can play that way for the whole game, as it's something we do when we're well on top, but when we're struggling (see Q3 last night and Q1 from our first 3 games) we don't have those numbers out the back to feed the ball to and start the quick ball movement

I think you'll find a lot of games where we'll dominate for a half (2 quarters, not always in a row) and really blitz the opposition and try to score fast and build a nice buffer (see Q1 and 2 last night) and other quarters where we don't blitz and we go into conservative mode where we still try to score, but without the relentless pace from our best quarters. This is also where the opposition can get on top of us

Credit to Port lat week though, as we crushed them in Q2, but could only get a few goals up and didn't really have a truly comfortable buffer until Q3, but even then they made 1 last charge

Gonna be an interesting year. Have to aim for that top 4. Top 2 even. Have to be 10-0 or at worst 9-1. Don't drop games we shouldn't be, switched on and powerful when we can be. At full flight, i don't think many can stop us.

Geelong may not let us play that way though.... but no Enright or Bartel for them could be what gets us over the line.. or it could be business as usual at the Cattery. Our biggest test IMO.

Look forward to each week. Let's bring the GC back a rung next Saturday now

 

[Captain Furious]

Eddie Betts and Taylor Walker apparently both played the best games of their careers

I'm not sure I understand the graph. Thought Parish was pretty good for them, what's he doing second bottom?

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Port board reckon they would've beaten both us and GWS if they'd kicked straight lol. Never mentions all the misses by us and GWS though.......

That was their good pressure

 

[Drummond]

Another thing - I don't think Atkins is getting enough credit for his game. Was extremely slick with ball in hand and got a season-high disposal count, to go with the two goals. His and Cameron's effort on the outside was brilliant IMO

Love the Rat, and thought he had another good game last night. Any game where a mid kicks 2 goals is always a solid contribution, but I thought his numbers were inflated by junk time. He and Mackay were the biggest beneficiaries of stat padding. Take off about 5 from their final count and you get a fair idea of their genuine contribution IMO. But yes, his ball use was quite good.

 

[ESKIE]

I knew I knew Eddie would kick a bag he loves playing against Essendon

He's loving his footy, he's been a perfect fit for Adelaide

 

[Deaneus!]

I'm not sure I understand the graph. Thought Parish was pretty good for them, what's he doing second bottom?

Sucking!

Meh, the graph is just a reflection of the ratings - and AFL Player Ratings said he was second worst (or, 43rd best) on ground.

 

[Cleric]

Your posts are bad and you should feel bad.

Not in the slightest. If you think 15 possessions last night, 18 the week before, 12 the week before, and 11 in round 1 is good for a midfielder then we have very different opinions of what a good mid is.
Should be dropped for Crouch next week.

 

[Cleric]

You haven't been watching closely have you

Lol.

 

[arrowman]

I knew I knew Eddie would kick a bag he loves playing against Essendon

He's loving his footy, he's been a perfect fit for Adelaide

That goal from his pocket, when he turned to the crowd and pointed at the ground to say "my pocket" - no-one else could do that without being a tosser. But he just loves the fun of it all.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Not in the slightest. If you think 15 possessions last night, 18 the week before, 12 the week before, and 11 in round 1 is good for a midfielder then we have very different opinions of what a good mid is.
Should be dropped for Crouch next week.

Since when did the number of possessions be the sole performance indicator for a player ?

 

[huludicidal]

Potentially still in the bottom 6 but I think the first three rounds has shown that every team is capable on their day.

Bombers are capable, you're right. Capable of losing to Carlton.

 

[NikkiNoo]

Since when did the number of possessions be the sole performance indicator for a player ?

Since the rise of fantasy and supercoach money.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Love the Rat, and thought he had another good game last night. Any game where a mid kicks 2 goals is always a solid contribution, but I thought his numbers were inflated by junk time. He and Mackay were the biggest beneficiaries of stat padding. Take off about 5 from their final count and you get a fair idea of their genuine contribution IMO. But yes, his ball use was quite good.

Fair question to ask, but watching the replay of the 2nd half, a lot of his ball use was not only on target, but actually damaging. That's not stat-padding to me. Getting 'nothing' disposals certainly is (i.e. not making great use of the ball), but not what Atkins did.