Review Good/Bad vs Collingwood

[BRL121]

What the actual F are you on about?

Seems like you are a massive troll.... clip clop clip clop went the 3rd billy-goat gruff.

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He's on the Absinthe.

 

[Red mist]

What the actual F are you on about?

Seems like you are a massive troll.... clip clop clip clop went the 3rd billy-goat gruff.

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Yeah right.
Ladder position has nothing to do with it. It’s about intent.
Richmond three weeks ago were **** all. Now they are around the place.
Sydney on the other hand, massive win, don’t see them rising.
Saints might be sliding, Freo improving, Bombers hovering.
You can’t gauge ladder position.
Form is function and it will change without notice.

 

[Red mist]

He's on the Absinthe.

GAGF you. You don’t even know me.

 

[PCORF]

Boy didn't it suck to lose this one, same with 80% of our past losses to the Pies and it is part of a standard script it seems. Had a 2 goal lead after 3 quarters and should have finished it off because you are NEVER going to get the calls in an away game. Yep Rankine was just over the line I think, that was the worst decision of the game and even then I knew it was the difference of the game.

One thing I must say is that Jordan Dawson

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Jordan Dawson

Age

27

Ht

191cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.0

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

5.7

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.8

4star

CL

0.6

3star

D

15.7

4star

K

10.9

4star

HB

4.9

3star

M

2.9

3star

T

2.0

3star

CL

0.4

3star

D

11.8

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

3.0

5star

CL

0.6

3star

is perhaps one of the best players we have ever recruited (as of now, cannot guarantee the future, injuries, etc). He was amazing today, he did not get the call in the end because of that away disadvantage. I remember that Port fans where fuming they didn't get him but now they have Jason Horne-Francis so it is all fair now.

I want Adelaide to bounce back next week with anger, don't let this terrible loss distract them. Forget about it and move on to the next game. North are not great but they are much better than West Coast.

 

[The Smith Revolution]

Good - Worrell will be better than Doedee

 

[Mattrox]

Reckon we'll have to displace two of the teams above as Geelong, Richmond and Sydney challenge us.

I think Richmond also play Dogs. Either result is potentially helpful. There are a couple such match ups.


Winnable
We need to beat North at home.
Essendon away is a must win.
Giants at home
Suns at home.
Swans at home
Rnd 24 vs West Coast.


Brisbane and Melbourne are serious tests.

Can't even think about Showdown yet.

We definitely need to build into the back end of the season.it

We are still a year ahead of where I thought our development trajectory was taking us. In 2020 we were in full rebuild, with a 1st time coach and AFL sanctions preseason. Then we had camp drama brought every week or two with media smashing us. Not exactly ideal development environment.

But now we have an opportunity to take our chances, roll the dice and play our cards right, take it one week at a time and hopefully play finals with this young group.

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[adelaidecrows]

Boy didn't it suck to lose this one, same with 80% of our past losses to the Pies and it is part of a standard script it seems. Had a 2 goal lead after 3 quarters and should have finished it off because you are NEVER going to get the calls in an away game. Yep Rankine was just over the line I think, that was the worst decision of the game and even then I knew it was the difference of the game.

One thing I must say is that Jordan Dawson is perhaps one of the best players we have ever recruited (as of now, cannot guarantee the future, injuries, etc). He was amazing today, he did not get the call in the end because of that away disadvantage. I remember that Port fans where fuming they didn't get him but now they have Jason Horne-Francis so it is all fair now.

I want Adelaide to bounce back next week with anger, don't let this terrible loss distract them. Forget about it and move on to the next game. North are not great but they are much better than West Coast.

Not ever recruited. Maybe 2nd. DJ will always hold that mantel. DJ ripped games apart from the moment he walked into the club.

 

[Mattrox]

I'll go out on a limb and say Collingwood are overrated. Yes they are a very good team and more likely to win the premiership than any other, but I think they are flattered by:

1. Not travelling very often away from their precious MCG, never get sent to s**t hole grounds; and have the psychological advantage of knowing finals and the grand final are locked into their home ground

2. The media circle-jerk

3. Their last-quarter comebacks. Yes their comebacks are largely due to merit rather than luck. But some luck is involved, and why the * does this supposedly fantastic side keep ending up behind in the fourth quarter? Why wait until then? One day the comeback won't come off - it's a matter of when.

Fairly robust limb you walked out on.

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[DroppingTheBall]

Keays ripping off Cox's glasses; thought it was uncalled for

He will probably get 3 games for unnecessary contact to the face. Elliott meanwhile will get off scott free from every official angle after smashing Dawson in the face with a swinging forearm, in front of goal, 10 seconds left.

 

[CrowToon]

I laughed because I thought you were joking then I laughed again when I realized you were serious.

I'm happy to cop negative feedback for it but I reckon it's a low act to go after medical equipment so deliberately. I was a big fan of the pride Mason showed when speaking about having to wear them, i know a few young fellas who stopped playing because of the embarrassment of it. It was good to see it normalised. Funny how we are not ok with having a dig at someone's injury or pulling hair but ripping a medical aid off someone's head is ok? I get there is little risk of pain but I just think it's a bad look but maybe it's because I've experienced the pain of those young fellas and I'm a bit sensitive. As I said, I'll wear the disagreement.

 

[adelaidecrows]

I think Richmond also play Dogs. Either result is potentially helpful. There are a couple such match ups.


Winnable
We need to beat North at home.
Essendon away is a must win.
Giants at home
Suns at home.
Swans at home
Rnd 24 vs West Coast.


Brisbane and Melbourne are serious tests.

Can't even think about Showdown yet.

We definitely need to build into the back end of the season.it

We are still a year ahead of where I thought our development trajectory was taking us. In 2020 we were in full rebuild, with a 1st time coach and AFL sanctions preseason. Then we had camp drama brought every week or two with media smashing us. Not exactly ideal development environment.

But now we have an opportunity to take our chances, roll the dice and play our cards right, take it one week at a time and hopefully play finals with this young group.

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We will win the showdown.

 

[CrowToon]

Last paragraph is why you can’t call it with 100% certainty. I reckon they might pay one like that 2-3 times out of 10.

I thought that the vision was clear enough in this circumstance though to work through the steps I outlined. If they aren't calling it due to less than ultra HD quality then they should get rid of the system.

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

Milera woeful? Thought he won some absolutely critical contests under pressure and gave us good drive off half back

Like most of the team he fumbled like a mofo in the first half. Gave us some real drive in Q3

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

That Dawson free will never get paid, could barely see it live, just one of those unlucky ones. Dawson should have slung his head back after contact.

100% - not sure why Dawson didn’t exaggerate the head movement after. Everyone else does!

 

[DroppingTheBall]

we had more scoring shots and played a great game we just needed more composure in front of the sticks. 1.5 to 5.1 in that final quarter. That's the game there regardless of any umpiring decision.

2.5 to 5.2, but yes to your point.

But if you don’t pay a massive whack to the face in front of goal, in a one on one contest that turns out to be the last play of the game…THAT’S the game there. Don’t diminish it.

 

[FR0GGY]

I'm happy to cop negative feedback for it but I reckon it's a low act to go after medical equipment so deliberately. I was a big fan of the pride Mason showed when speaking about having to wear them, i know a few young fellas who stopped playing because of the embarrassment of it. It was good to see it normalised. Funny how we are not ok with having a dig at someone's injury or pulling hair but ripping a medical aid off someone's head is ok? I get there is little risk of pain but I just think it's a bad look but maybe it's because I've experienced the pain of those young fellas and I'm a bit sensitive. As I said, I'll wear the disagreement.

I’m with you I think. Head band no issue, medical thing no go.

 

[Rotayjay]

He will probably get 3 games for unnecessary contact to the face. Elliott meanwhile will get off scott free from every official angle after smashing Dawson in the face with a swinging forearm, in front of goal, 10 seconds left.

The Victorian/non-Victorian discount/penalty will be in full force.

 

[CrowToon]

I sat with a Collingwood mate.

He started laughing when I told him we hadn't played in Melbourne until Round 15 as he thought I was joking.

2024 demands
Play in Melbourne in the first 5 rounds
Play minimum 3 games at MCG
No Geelong
No Ballarat
Max 1 of Darwin or Launceston
No Perth in Round 24 (despite WC being rubbish)

Absolutely agree we need minimum 3 games at MCG. Tbh I would rather them later in the seaosn than earlier.

Should tell them to shove all regional grounds next year. We have done our time.

No Geelong only because we went there this year, they can come to us next year but if we do double up then of course we should go to Geelong, that is legit their home ground.

**** Tasmania and Ballarat off. I'll tolerate Darwin if we have to do one trip but I'd be questioning why big Vic sides don't do it. We know the reason is financial but it doesn't mean we can't highlight the BS nature of it.

 

[DroppingTheBall]

See I reckon you can work that through properly and arrive at a goal. I don't see how it was inconclusive. A flow that looks like this maybe:

Does the ball hit Rankines limb below the knee? Yes

Does the ball touch Rankines limb last? Close call, ask clarifying question/s.

At the precise point of release from Rankine's limb is the Collingwood player touching the ball? No

Is there a subsequent touch from any other player? No.

At the established point of release has the ball crossed the line? No.

Decision: Goal.


I just don't think you can mount a case that Noble is touching the ball at the point of release.

There can be a simultaneous touch between hand and foot but that doesn't mean it is touched. If the foot touches it last then that is the play.

Clearly the hand touches it FIRST, then the boot kicks it out of the hand, so nothing to debate: the boot is the last to CONTACT the ball. Goal.

I cannot for the life of me understand how it is inconclusive.

But if this was the opposite we would have upgraded camera systems in place next week.

Agreed.

 

[CrowBloke]

As an example of the atrocious umpiring bias, I recall an incident in the second or third quarter when a Crows player tackled a Collingwood player and it was a ball-up, and mere seconds later a Collingwood player tackled one of ours in identical circumstances and it was paid holding the ball.

I was going to post about the same thing. The hit on Dawson with 30-odd seconds to go in the last was a killer, too.
That's not to say he would've goaled, but ... Dawson. One of the Comp's best kicks.
+

Pedlars miss in the first 1/4

Yep. Rachele missed a couple very gettable goals too. Rankine in the first, also.
At 1.8, I thought we'd get done.
The 3rd quarter was terrific but 13 in front was not gonna do it. The Pies are freakish at winning those.

 

[Go the Guts]

Mitch Hinge is absolutely crucial in our ball movement.

Thing is, he often burns it. Did so a few times today but did improve.

 

[BACCS]

Nicks said post game it’s the most the players have hurt after a loss this season, I’m glad these type of losses burn now and aren’t praised for being honourable. Shows we are taking that next step, gaining confidence and genuinely believe we can beat the best (which at times we have this year).

 

[Interloperer]

Random aside. Walker had his first bounce of the ball since 2019 kicking his 5th goal, and the third since the famous 2015 run.

 

[CrowBloke]

It's depressing that my blind cynicism was validated.

Yes, it is depressing, but your cynicism wasn't "blind".
Eyes open wide, sadly, from past experience.

 

[croweater 41]

Just got home from the G. I’m sure I am in the majority real shame we don’t play there more often fantastic atmosphere and particularly when a side like Collingwood is up and about and so are their supporters but anyway haven’t read the thread but my thoughts.

The first half of the first quarter was sheer domination but our ****ing goal kicking. After that to half time might be some of our worst football for the year.

Third quarter sexy brilliant football. If we could play that regularly we’d win more than we lost.

Last quarter we fought. There wasn’t a thrown in of the towel ever or a parking of the bus because we were in front. We tried ****ing hard didn’t get the win but not through a lack of trying or negative play.

Good
Tex is playing like he is 27 not 30 odd
Dawson was fantastic all day
Laird was good too in the middle.
I thought Jones played a solid game. Stats may not say so (haven’t looked who had what yet could be surprised myself how many he had) but through himself around and made contests.
Hinge was good. Couple of errors but otherwise good.
Ned as the sub was good and a very good linker. Almost like everyone was looking to use him as much as possible.

Bad
Umpiring was horrid
Sholl was meh
Not snapping Cox’s goggles harder

Also I think Pedlar needs to choose his time to go and not go a little better after watching him love today. Don’t get me wrong love the attack on the ball but sometimes it can be just a plain waste of energy or he is making things harder as he goes through.