Preview Round 16, 2024: Hawthorn v West Coast Eagles, 30 June 2024 (Sun), 4:40pm @ Optus Stadium

[The Golden Glenferrie]

Playing a game at 2pm Melbourne time in Perth means the game would start at 12pm local time. The AFL wants the Perth teams to play home games on Sunday afternoon at 2.40pm AWST means that we'll have to put up with a 4.40pm start time in Melbourne.

I don't know why the AFL don't schedule WCE/FREO for more 7:40/9:40EST.

I would love late night footy

 

[Nugett]

Playing a game at 2pm Melbourne time in Perth means the game would start at 12pm local time. The AFL wants the Perth teams to play home games on Sunday afternoon at 2.40pm AWST means that we'll have to put up with a 4.40pm start time in Melbourne.

I know, it just shits me, that out of the three bottom teams last year, we are the ones that gets shafted with poor viewing time slots, despite looking the most improved last year.

 

[Nugett]

I don't know why the AFL don't schedule WCE/FREO for more 7:40/9:40EST.

I would love late night footy

I agree with that, have a Friday night double header…

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

I agree with that, have a Friday night double header…

Didn't they used to have late night WACA games?

 

[toomanysquibs]

Norf with another prime Saturday fixture and we're stick in the dead zone

That's some serious asshattery from the AFL. There's no way North is a bigger TV draw than us against pretty much anyone.

 

[Nugett]

Didn't they used to have late night WACA games?

They may, think I have lost too many brain cells since they last did it though!

 

[Nugett]

That's some serious asshattery from the AFL. There's no way North is a bigger TV draw than us against pretty much anyone.

I remember 2015 when Carlton, was on the bottom, think they had something like 7 Friday night games. I think even Carlton fans were begging for it to stop, so they didn’t have to see how shite they were. While we were back to back premiers and in the H&A only had 4. 1 of which was against Carlton which we won by nearly 140 points…

 

[eldorado]

What did he say was sinister about it?

Sam on SEN said that their plan to help get Breust over his groin issues was carrying his as a sub, and then look at the bye and Perth trip as a time to give him a doubles week rest, hopefully to look to get him to full minutes after that.

makes sense to me...I thought the bye might be an opportunity to give him two weeks off

 

[Nugett]

makes sense to me...I thought the bye might be an opportunity to give him two weeks off

I was actually surprised that we didn’t rest Gunston as well. Reckon Gunston will miss the cats, while we bring in Mitch Lewis. *if fit

 

[Hodginator]

My god Landsberger is horrendous to listen/watch

How he has a job in Football is beyond me

Questioning that their is something sinister behind Bruest being managed

Link?

 

[Pinoy Hawk]

Last training at Waverley before they fly to WA.

No Ward or Serong in the main training today.
Bumped into Timmy at the end of the training, and he mentioned that Harry is the most likely sub and Finn will be the travelling emergency.

Excited to see Will McCabe in the match sims.
Hardwick playing defence in the match sims but off course it is not an indication if he will play mostly in defence against WC.

Wiz having a few goalkicking session with Sam and Gunners.



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[Kanga Commando]

It is a close run thing. All three have been good.
For me, Finn still has to have a run with role in the AFL or play with Box Hill. I have loved his development in the VFL as an inside and then free running mid and seen his growth as a player. I have seen him hit a few good targets by foot (he is getting better) but he still misses too many for the AFL. A cheeky thing would be to put him on Harley. That would be fun.
Harry does few things wrong and links well.
Ward has greatly improved at Box Hill. His production has been top notch. And he is hitting targets. He looks like he could become a bull, but is not there yet.

My head says Ward, my heart says H, but my schadenfreude-loving side says, let Finn go after Harley.

Finn gonna ride the Harley this weekend

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Hope it's Ward that comes into the team. I'm not sure who would be sub though. Maybe CJ? Maybe Gunston, with Hardwick playing forward?

 

[Manila_Hawk]

Last training at Waverley before they fly to WA.

No Ward or Serong in the main training today.
Bumped into Timmy at the end of the training, and he mentioned that Harry is the most likely sub and Finn will be the travelling emergency.

Excited to see Will McCabe in the match sims.
Hardwick playing defence in the match sims but off course it is not an indication if he will play mostly in defence against WC.

Wiz having a few goalkicking session with Sam and Gunners.

Thanks Pinoy.

Appreciate your updates. I wish could get to training every week

 

[cryptor]

Hope it's Ward that comes into the team. I'm not sure who would be sub though. Maybe CJ? Maybe Gunston, with Hardwick playing forward?

Morrison and Ramma have both been listed as emergencies in the last couple games before the bye, but of those two only Morrison has been named this time. I also think Morrison would add the most in terms of leadership on the bench, a quality of Breust as sub that Sam mentioned on radio today that is very valuable to the team.

So I reckon Morrison probably most likely to be the sub.

Sam also pretty coy when questioned about Finn tag on Reid (SEN and club presser this morning). Potential late change there if he makes the trip.

 

[Blackhawk42]

Norf with another prime Saturday fixture and we're stick in the dead zone

They play at 1:45pm on Saturday for pretty much the next 6 weeks straight? That's actually the coldest fixturing spot that exists.

All over Australia a massive percentage of footy fans are fixated on their local side at 2pm every Saturday.

I'd wager that early Saturday spot is one of the lowest drawing TV slots every weekend.

 

[Sturty]

Harry sub IMO

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

They play at 1:45pm on Saturday for pretty much the next 6 weeks straight? That's actually the coldest fixturing spot that exists.

All over Australia a massive percentage of footy fans are fixated on their local side at 2pm every Saturday.

I'd wager that early Saturday spot is one of the lowest drawing TV slots every weekend.

I give no shits about local footy. Hate the thing.

I care about prime Saturday arvo games. Especially at the G. God's fixture.

Sad we're all about the TV now

 

[extractasam]

I remember 2015 when Carlton, was on the bottom, think they had something like 7 Friday night games. I think even Carlton fans were begging for it to stop, so they didn’t have to see how shite they were. While we were back to back premiers and in the H&A only had 4. 1 of which was against Carlton which we won by nearly 140 points…

Yep - they lost by Rd1 - 27, Rd 2 - 69, Rd 5 - 75, Rd 8 - 77, Rd 9 - 60, Rd 17 - 138 (yours truly).

How they ever got scheduled 5 of the first 9 rounds prime time is actually ridiculous in an 18 team comp.

 

[Platten44]

They play at 1:45pm on Saturday for pretty much the next 6 weeks straight? That's actually the coldest fixturing spot that exists.

All over Australia a massive percentage of footy fans are fixated on their local side at 2pm every Saturday.

I'd wager that early Saturday spot is one of the lowest drawing TV slots every weekend.

Foxtel twilight games are their new marquee time slot according to them.

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

Foxtel twilight games are their new marquee time slot according to them.

Want a marquee game? 7PM on a Tuesday evening! Perfect for TV

 

[HedgeFund]

I don't know why the AFL don't schedule WCE/FREO for more 7:40/9:40EST.

I would love late night footy

Prime time for advertising is 7pm to 10.30pm.

Anything after that time and the eyeballs of most are being switched off. Hence advertising revenue drops dramatically.

It’s the broadcasters who demand that the games finish early enough so they can sell prime time advertising throughout.

 

[Mopar Jason]

Only change is Morrison for Breust, Morrison will probably be the sub.
This is becoming a very settled side that is hard to break into.

 

[Mopar Jason]

ROUND 16 TEAM
Hawthorn v West Coast
Sunday 30 June
Optus Stadium, 2.40pm AWST / 4.40pm AEST

B: Jarman Impey, Sam Frost

8

Sam Frost

Age

30

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.4

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

3.7

4star

T

1.9

4star

MG

191.6

3star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.3

3star

HB

4.3

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

191.6

3star

D

11.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.4

4star

, Jack Scrimshaw

14

Jack Scrimshaw

Age

25

Ht

194cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.8

4star

K

7.7

3star

HB

6.1

4star

M

3.7

4star

T

1.4

3star

MG

200.7

3star

D

12.3

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

5.3

3star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.3

2star

MG

167.0

3star

D

10.2

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

155.6

3star

HB: Karl Amon

10

Karl Amon

Age

28

Ht

181cm

Wt

71kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.6

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

6.8

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

294.5

4star

D

21.0

5star

K

15.0

5star

HB

6.0

3star

M

6.0

5star

T

2.0

3star

D

10.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

146.8

3star

, James Sicily

6

James Sicily

Age

29

Ht

188cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

12.7

5star

HB

5.7

4star

M

6.3

5star

T

1.5

3star

MG

365.0

5star

D

19.4

4star

K

14.3

5star

HB

5.1

3star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.0

2star

MG

437.4

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

173.8

3star

, Will Day
C: Harry Morrison, James Worpel

5

James Worpel

Age

25

Ht

186cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.5

5star

K

12.2

5star

HB

11.3

5star

M

2.9

3star

T

4.5

5star

CL

5.1

5star

No current season stats available

D

15.6

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

9.4

5star

M

1.0

1star

T

3.2

5star

CL

1.8

4star

, Dylan Moore

13

Dylan Moore

Age

24

Ht

177cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.9

3star

K

5.1

2star

HB

6.7

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

12.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.4

3star

HF: Massimo D'Ambrosio, Jack Gunston

19

Jack Gunston

Age

32

Ht

193cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.5

4star

K

10.5

4star

HB

5.0

4star

M

5.7

5star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.9

5star

D

10.6

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

4.3

4star

T

1.7

3star

G

1.6

5star

D

11.2

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.6

3star

, Calsher Dear
F: Jack Ginnivan, Mabior Chol

18

Mabior Chol

Age

27

Ht

200cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.5

2star

K

5.3

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.3

2star

T

2.7

4star

G

0.8

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.0

1star

M

2.3

2star

T

2.3

3star

G

0.7

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.2

4star

, Blake Hardwick

15

Blake Hardwick

Age

27

Ht

183cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.8

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

6.1

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.7

4star

MG

264.7

4star

D

13.8

3star

K

9.8

4star

HB

4.0

3star

M

3.2

3star

T

1.7

3star

MG

264.7

4star

D

15.0

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

6.2

4star

M

5.0

5star

T

1.4

4star

R: Lloyd Meek, Jai Newcombe, Changkuoth Jiath

9

Changkuoth Jiath

Age

25

Ht

185cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.5

4star

K

5.0

2star

HB

9.5

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.5

4star

MG

91.0

1star

No current season stats available

D

14.5

4star

K

5.0

2star

HB

9.5

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.5

4star

MG

91.0

2star

INT: Josh Weddle, Conor Nash

11

Conor Nash

Age

25

Ht

198cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.7

2star

K

3.9

2star

HB

4.8

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

3.1

5star

CL

0.3

2star

No current season stats available

D

8.4

3star

K

4.2

2star

HB

4.2

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

0.2

2star

, Cam Mackenzie, Nick Watson, Connor Macdonald

EMER: Finn Maginness, Josh Ward, Jai Serong

 

[Flamin Joe]

Didn't they used to have late night WACA games?

They did. Last game we played at the WACA was a Saturday night game in 1999 and was a ripper too. WCE got off to a flyer and we were down by as much as 6 goals at one stage until a Crawford led comeback and we won by 2 points.

Before you ask, no I don't have a photographic memory. Your question triggered a memory so I did a little digging after checking the head to head vs WCE then this awesome video filled in the rest. What a game that was!