How much does a club pay for a bloke who’s never kicked 40 goals in a season and never played more than 15 games in a season …
And turns 26 this year. Reminds me of the constant discussion about Taberner coming good for Freo year are year.
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How much does a club pay for a bloke who’s never kicked 40 goals in a season and never played more than 15 games in a season …
I wasn't suggesting trading them. More what their value would be.No.
Midfielders don't get traded for top draft picks unless they're unquestionably elite. OR if they're a prototypical size (think a Cripps/Bont type of tall and big bodied mid).
A late first rounder/end of 1st priority pick maybe, if they play themselves into significantly better form during the second half of this season compared to what they've shown so far (obviously more about Newcombe there than Day who hasn't been playing).
Problem is, any team that needs a midfielder and has a first round pick like that is probably going to prefer to take an 18 year old kid with a higher ceiling. 'Potential' is an addictive drug. We know who Newcombe and Day are at this point.
All moot though; no chance Hawthorn trades them.
I wasn't suggesting trading them. More what their value would be.
Bit of chatter on the Bombers board about Massimo. The obvious AFL trait is his kicking but the more educated on our board were somewhat ok he left as his unaccountability often left others in the back 6 badly exposed.very poor today. complete lack of defensive pressure
I wasn't suggesting trading them. More what their value would be.
How much does a club pay for a bloke who’s never kicked 40 goals in a season and never played more than 15 games in a season …
What was your ladder position at the same point of the season last year?
contracted day would get a pick between 8-12 if hawthorn were sellingThey can't make up their mind. All the seniors out one year. Then the next top up with Gunstan, Chol and Ginni. This is now year 6 out of the finals and with all their early I think they're yet to find someone who has held value or risen to be worth a top 10 pick.
Watson still would and hopefully he succeeds as he'll be great to watch. Would Newcombe or Day get traded for a top 10 pick?
I remember watching Collingwood that year and it was clear as day they were stale, very similar to GWS in 2022.Sounds like Back One Out backed one out.
We did give up on results after we sacked bucks and played kids, but we were hoping for development rather than the slight difference in draft points between where we would have finished if the seniors had have played through injuries and waited until the end of year for their operations.
contracted day would get a pick between 8-12 if hawthorn were selling
im not as high on newcombe as some others are but he made the AA squad as a 22 year old. that would suggest he is quite highly rated by the wider afl community and i wouldnt be shocked if someone stumped up a top 10 pick for him
I don't really agree with you. Games changed. Clubs have gotten much better on the outside. Flankers and small forwards are why you Cats are giving this season a shake. Despite his height, even Jezza has become a flanker.Watson will be a gun I reckon, but it was the wrong pick.
Small forwards are like a luxury purchase. Nice to have, but not absolutely essential to a successful side. Most clubs only have one good one, and they're generally not taken in the first 5 picks.
Not to mention they already had Moore - A very good player in his own right - and had bought in Ginni that off-season, who's already proven he's capable of 40 goals a year.
Any of Sanders, Windsor, O'Sullivan, or Curtin would have been better selections for mine.
Particularly the last two. Hawthorn desperately need tall talent at both ends.
Even if Curtin & COS are 2-3 years off being AFL ready, that fits the Hawks rebuild timeline anyway.
Blues got it right taking the talls early in the piece, knowing they'd peak later on.
It means the list can grow together at commensurate rate, as the mids are always going to come along quicker than the KPP.
agreed, but generally when teams trade for a young player they look at the upside of what theyve shown at their best. smith has been miles off it for almost 2 seasons now and would probably still attract a top 10 pick under contract.Not on this season’s form. He’s been really poor. He’ll come good but there might be something going on behind the scenes as he just doesn’t look the same player.
Listening to Bucks on radio these days it's no wonder they were.I remember watching Collingwood that year and it was clear as day they were stale, very similar to GWS in 2022.
Also, Collingwood had previously traded away their 2021 future first round pick to GWS.
I was commenting on where your younger players sit rather than suggesting a trade. You'd be hoping some had held or increased their draft value, but it's only your oldies Amon, Sicily and Frost who have really kicked on during this rebuild. Newcombe too obviously. The draftees not so much.I could see the Crows offering a top 10 pick for Day. SA boy and they are desperate for quality mids with a high ceiling which he is.
Like Chad said it's moot though. There is no way we'd trade either of them. We need more talent on the list not less (or have it going sideways).
Comparing the second shortest guy in the league in Watson to a 6'5 Jeremy Cameron isn't exactly apples to apples though is it?I don't really agree with you. Games changed. Clubs have gotten much better on the outside. Flankers and small forwards are why you Cats are giving this season a shake. Despite his height, even Jezza has become a flanker.
Huge disappointment, will take them years to rebuild and will get worse by the year.
Will be cap in hand for PP's in 2026, mark my words.
Signing Chol for four years, could have offered 2 and he'd have taken it.
does he lose credentials if Nathan Lovett - Murray gets his way and Jobe has his Brownlow reinstated too?Yep. You can tell Conman Sam learnt straight from the book of Clarko.
If the Hawks board has any sense Mitchell will be out before he gets the chance to butcher any handouts. The bloke cannot coach.
Hawks board signed off the gutting of the list approach
They simply have to back Mitchell in and stay the course
Lacked reward for effort today should be judged on when they play the teams around them.
Who's a better option though?That’s sunk cost fallacy in my opinion.