Analysis Hawthorn rebuild: are they tanking?

[Mr Meow]

They've beaten or seriously tested every team besides Geelong and Sydney this season (okay I didn't fact check this, but it feels like it).

If they can avoid those sides, I don't see why they wouldn't be able to win 4 straight finals to claim a flag.

 

[Gavin Excell]

Rebuilds are hard work Red Bull

My God how things haven't turned out as expected by the smug Red Bull at start of year

 

[sr36]

They've beaten or seriously tested every team besides Geelong and Sydney this season (okay I didn't fact check this, but it feels like it).

If they can avoid those sides, I don't see why they wouldn't be able to win 4 straight finals to claim a flag.

They're ****ing good.

Fast footy has been killing it since 2017 and no one is playing as consistently quick as the Hawks.

 

[Bugs1977]

Rebuilds are hard work Red Bull

Not for Hawthorn it isn't

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Those two Carlton losers haven't posted in here for a while, and won't be back for some time.

 

[The 747]

Still tanking, should have finished top 4.

 

[Mr Meow]

The aim should be for 9-11 wins and in that area with teams pushing for finals. Rather than bottom 3 where wins are a nice bonus but nothing more. The list is good enough already for that to be a realistic aim.

Safe to say they've exceeded expectations and are a year ahead of where most neutral optimists would've had them on the development curve.

 

[matey]

Not happy this is making our first pick worse as we don’t have enough top end talent

 

[Vindicater]

I am here to eat crow.

Thought they would be improved but still bottom six.

Great job by Sam Mitchell and the list management team.

 

[Mr Meow]

WalshistheGOAT time for baby to come in and have some medicine. You said an all time choke job would be required for Carlton to lose to Hawthorn.

"Injuries" will be your cry, but Hawthorn were thumping the Blues well before the effects of a diminished bench were in effect.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

WalshistheGOAT time for baby to come in and have some medicine. You said an all time choke job would be required for Carlton to lose to Hawthorn.

"Injuries" will be your cry, but Hawthorn were thumping the Blues well before the effects of a diminished bench were in effect.

You really are a special man.

Why would I be blaming injuries for a Carlton side who looked as woeful as they have for 6 weeks now before those injuries occurred? Can't speak for the 2nd half but the Blues have been hopeless since the GWS game, still don't think the Hawks have any chance of doing damage come finals regardless of our dreadful form

 

[threesixpio]

 

[Hawkk]

Those two Carlton losers haven't posted in here for a while, and won't be back for some time.

Imagine if they miss the eight, all thanks to Crazy Vossy being a terrible coach

 

[hawkman]

They've beaten or seriously tested every team besides Geelong and Sydney this season (okay I didn't fact check this, but it feels like it).

If they can avoid those sides, I don't see why they wouldn't be able to win 4 straight finals to claim a flag.

Melbourne and GC in the first 5 weeks as well

This Sydney team now we wouldn't be scared of either

 

[Mr Meow]

You really are a special man.

Why would I be blaming injuries for a Carlton side who looked as woeful as they have for 6 weeks now before those injuries occurred? Can't speak for the 2nd half but the Blues have been hopeless since the GWS game, still don't think the Hawks have any chance of doing damage come finals regardless of our dreadful form

So it was an almighty choke job? You can also simply acknowledge the opposition, who it appears you greatly underestimated. Why so bullish heading into this match when the form lines of the sides differed greatly?

They're a relatively young side without too many "old heads" in their best group of players. There's no reason to believe Carlton are closer to a premiership than Hawthorn are.

 

[Mr Meow]

Melbourne and GC in the first 5 weeks as well

This Sydney team now we wouldn't be scared of either

True, the first part of the season Hawthorn were a bit out of sorts at times in amongst the encouraging performances at others. No team would be confident against them playing the way they are now. A young side with a lot of finals debutants might get stage fright before breaking through, but how many teams are there in the top 8 that would punish them? It's a weak field this year.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

So it was an almighty choke job? You can also simply acknowledge the opposition, who it appears you greatly underestimated. Why so bullish heading into this match when the form lines of the sides differed greatly?

They're a relatively young side without too many "old heads" in their best group of players. There's no reason to believe Carlton are closer to a premiership than Hawthorn are.

When people remember this season they'll talk about Carlton choking their run home to finals, so yes I call it an almighty choke job over anything else. I don't rate the Hawks whatsoever, just as I don't rate Geelong. They are making up the numbers while the Blues are imploding

 

[Kobe Gryant]

When people remember this season they'll talk about Carlton choking their run home to finals, so yes I call it an almighty choke job over anything else. I don't rate the Hawks whatsoever, just as I don't rate Geelong. They are making up the numbers while the Blues are imploding

...And neither supporter base cares, they don't need to be rated.

Any success this year for both Hawks & Cats fans is just a welcome bonus.

The media and opposition supporters didn't expect anything out of either club. A lot of their own supporters didn't either. It's a free throw at the stumps.

Carlton on the other hand....

 

[Delisted]

When people remember this season they'll talk about Carlton choking their run home to finals, so yes I call it an almighty choke job over anything else. I don't rate the Hawks whatsoever, just as I don't rate Geelong. They are making up the numbers while the Blues are imploding

No they won't. They will remember Hawthorns amazing run. No one remembers shit teams.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

No they won't. They will remember Hawthorns amazing run. No one remembers shit teams.

Then they'll have no reason to remember the Hawks

 

[Delisted]

Then they'll have no reason to remember the Hawks

I literally just gave you one.

 

[randyzany]

How long has their rebuilding process been going on for? It's nearing a decade (started around 2016) so it's about time they started showing something for their tanking mediocrity.

 

[black is White]

Then they'll have no reason to remember the Hawks

Wow your coping hard, hawks probably finish above Carlton next year aswell.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Then they'll have no reason to remember the Hawks

More salt please, chef.

 

[Delisted]

How long has their rebuilding process been going on for? It's nearing a decade (started around 2016) so it's about time they started showing something for their tanking mediocrity.

Yup. Well past due for a Premierships/dynasty.