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Thanks KM. So sounds like McGrath is more your higher floor, lower ceiling type from this draft where what you see now is more closely going to resemble what you'll get.I stand by my comments on smalls generally having lower ceilings.
Generally at 18 they're among the most advanced but 2-3 years down the track at AFL level they tend to get past by, by those taller types who are still growing into their bodies.
With the smalls (sub 180cm types) my view is take them on who they are today. If they are AFL standard as they are now, take them. If not, pass.
Size may limit McGrath's upside somewhat. But given how advanced his game is and given his improvement over the course of the season (which to me suggests further improvement will come - as a variable that leaves some wiggle room within this rule). I think McGrath is a worthwhile bet with any of those top three picks, wherever he happens to land.
I probably don't have McGrath all things said and done being the best in the draft. Maybe a Setterfield, McCluggage or someone else may be. Drew if he gets midfield time? Who knows. McGrath looks exceptional in any case and a worthwhile top selection with those top overall choices rarely the best player in the draft anyway.
KM's full phantom draft is up:
http://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/18123778/knightmare-final-afl-phantom-draft-goes-where
Wow, really? Looked pretty bloody ordinary in the few games I saw, but I can't say I was watching too closely.Joyce is being upgraded leaving 5 spots for Bowes, Scheer and 3 top 10's... Would take something pretty crazy for that alter...
Yeah signed a two year deal about a month ago... and nah, he has been terrific. Very composed, tough and good by foot out of defence... I'm not saying he hasn't made some mistakes as any 18 year old does, so maybe that's what you saw but in general he has pleasantly surprised a lot of people.Wow, really? Looked pretty bloody ordinary in the few games I saw, but I can't say I was watching too closely.
see Andrew HooperInteresting... cant recall a Larke Medalist getting as little love as Graham has got. Wouldnt be surprised if the AFL scouts rate him inside 20
No midfielders for the eagles..interestingKM's full phantom draft is up:
http://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/18123778/knightmare-final-afl-phantom-draft-goes-where
Longmire interviewed him last week according to Twomey and is right in their sightswhat is your basis for having the swans take florent ahead of brodie or even scrimshaw? this seems ridiculous to me. i'll be very upset if this happens.
Berry is a midfielder, with the versatility to play both forward and back also.No midfielders for the eagles..interesting
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Poor output for a mid thenBerry is a midfielder, with the versatility to play both forward and back also.
Still half an hour away... have a feeling he won't be answering his BF thread however...Knightmare is about to host a live draft Q&A on espn.com.au if anyone wants to ask him something:
http://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/18084011/knightmare-afl-draft-qa
KM, with all due respect i'd be filthy if the draft panned out that way for Essendon.
No way is Graham a top 20 pick ahead of the likes of Venables/SPP/Battle. Picking both Graham and Sharenberg would not make sense.
what is your basis for having the swans take florent ahead of brodie or even scrimshaw? this seems ridiculous to me. i'll be very upset if this happens.