List Mgmt. List Management 2023-24

[Andre]

In general, the only players with any trade value are players you don’t want to lose

Or you hope another clubs coach values one of your players highly. We want something like another coach values DBJ the way Hinkley does, rather than his output. Pickett would be nice, but if we're trading Duursma, I'd be wanting it as part of getting a young quality KPD (with obviously having to put in extra as well), not a small forward, no matter how good.

 

[dirty2]

Bonner, DBJ and Lycett for Pickett done

 

[VineValerian]

Bonner, DBJ and Lycett for Pickett done

Williams, DBJ and Jonas for Pickett.
Jackson and Fantasia for NW-M.
Done.

 

[Windy Cindy]

Either that or not a chance. We don't have the currency, and I'm not willing to go and get it trading out a Georgiades, Duursma or Bergman.

I’d happily trade Bergman.

Absolutel no brainer that is. Pickett is a star

 

[dirty2]

I’d happily trade Bergman.

Absolutel no brainer that is. Pickett is a star

I 100% disagree with this... Bergman is going to be elite A grader.

 

[Windy Cindy]

I 100% disagree with this... Bergman is going to be elite A grader.

Based on?

He’s a nice player, that’s about it. Haven’t seen anything to suggest he will be anything near an A grader

Can’t even recall him playing an a grade game yet

 

[dirty2]

Based on?

He’s a nice player, that’s about it. Haven’t seen anything to suggest he will be anything near an A grader

Can’t even recall him playing an a grade game yet

I've seen enough... There is glimpses there..

Chances are he will go home anyways unfortunately... Also just my opinion.

 

[Windy Cindy]

I've seen enough... There is glimpses there..

Chances are he will go home anyways unfortunately... Also just my opinion.

Well the upside will hopefully be kossie flying round the forward line creating havoc

 

[Schulzenfest]

I 100% disagree with this... Bergman is going to be elite A grader.

Pickett already is an elite A grader. Bird in the hand.

 

[backtozero]

I'm confident Bergman will be a really good player for us. Had a wretched 2022 with injury and then illness. If you can't see that he has all the tools then I don't know what to tell you.

 

[Buget]

I 100% disagree with this... Bergman is going to be elite A grader.

I 100% agree with you, Bergman has a high ceiling. But if you don’t have pick currency, the only thing you have to trade is players.

Strongly prefer to keep Bergman, but he has currency and is on a line that can be covered more easily.

The JHF/Junior trade was a huge move by port, but you have to pay the piper….

 

[Windy Cindy]

I'm confident Bergman will be a really good player for us. Had a wretched 2022 with injury and then illness. If you can't see that he has all the tools then I don't know what to tell you.

Fair difference between really good and elite A grader.

Plenty of blokes have had all the tools.

If he’s required in a deal for Kozzie I’m doing it all day every day.

 

[blackholeguns]

Can Kozzie ruck

 

[JUSTWORK]

So the rule in relation to trading future first round picks is "Clubs must make at least two first-round selections in each four-year period. If they don't, they will face restrictions from trading any further first-round draft picks"

2020 - Jones
2021 - Sinn
2022 - Traded out last year
2023 - Traded out last year

Given we have made two first round picks the last four years, can we not then trade next years first pick this year ? That would mean we'd need to make a first round selection in both 2025 & 2026 (Or trade out a player and make two selection in 2025)

You'd think out first pick next year would be the starting point, with a player needing to be added in to upgrade that future pick into the top 10 this year or package up with our future first pick to send to Melb.

 

[robbo1981]

Hawthorn didn't use a first rnd pick for like 8ys lol.

 

[Schulzenfest]

I'm confident Bergman will be a really good player for us. Had a wretched 2022 with injury and then illness. If you can't see that he has all the tools then I don't know what to tell you.

Lots of players have all the tools but never put them together. Unless Miles actually puts them together on the football field this year, Melbourne wouldn't trade Pickett for two Bergmans, and rightly so.

 

[blackholeguns]

Just a carton of Two Bergman’s thanks

 

[Wargreymon90]

My concern with Bergman is that we don’t know his position yet.

I think we should be developing him into a pure midfielder.

 

[backtozero]

Lots of players have all the tools but never put them together. Unless Miles actually puts them together on the football field this year, Melbourne wouldn't trade Pickett for two Bergmans, and rightly so.

Which is what I'm saying I think he will do.

 

[robbo1981]

My concern with Bergman is that we don’t know his position yet.

I think we should be developing him into a pure midfielder.

I hope his versatility does make him the go to sub.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Which is what I'm saying I think he will do.

And until he does, Pickett is worth significantly more.

If I offer you $100.00 or a scratchie that you reckon might have a prize of $100.00, which one are you taking?

 

[philthy05]

And until he does, Pickett is worth significantly more.

If I offer you $100.00 or a scratchie that you reckon might have a prize of $100.00, which one are you taking?

Unless there’s fine print I missed nowhere did he say he thought Bergman was worth more, less or the same as pickett.

He simply commented on rating Bergman.


People can rate Bergman , or not want to trade Bergman without it being a reflection on picketts worth or trade value.

 

[backtozero]

And until he does, Pickett is worth significantly more.

If I offer you $100.00 or a scratchie that you reckon might have a prize of $100.00, which one are you taking?

Enough with the analogies already.

 

[Doctor Feel]

Matt Arnott and Liam McBean for Kozzie should get the job done. If push comes to shove we can use Todd Elton as a sweetener.

 

[Saltiga]

Which players are completely off limits in a trade for Kozzie?

I would think it's only rozee, butters, jhf, georgiadis, mcentee, wines and marshall.