McLeod doesn't feel like past players are welcome at the Crows

[craig crowing]

I am not a club apologist in any form and obvious that the clean out of football dept.needed to happen in admin .as well .
But I am absolutely sick of our club being trashed especially by Vic media and it is time now if Mcleod serious about wanting the best for our club to work with the club and cease the war of words from both parties .
We all have to understand that there is all types of financial etc hardships to so many but we must keep afloat our clubs and businesses to go forward.
Cant see Fagan surviving after this season so lets not continue the damage.
I know many won't agree but felt needed to post my thoughts.

 

[King Elvis]

Can we get McLeod to take over from Chapman? Sounds like he actually understands what the issues are down there, at least. Change has to be driven from the top, so let's put him at the top.

I think that’s a terrible idea.

Macca could be the agent of change, but then we need someone strong and intense to reshape the club.

 

[Jarman3]

I think that’s a terrible idea.

Macca could be the agent of change, but then we need someone strong and intense to reshape the club.

First step is getting someone who is at least acknowledging the problem.

 

[F_therest]

Roo says this morning it's been a really "annoying" week for him.

In other words, this is an annoyance for him. He keeps saying he wants to make Andrew feel welcome, but what he doesn't understand is that Andrew isnt talking about just himself. Roo still can't accept that there is a broader issue.

On a side note, Andrew Fagan liked a tweet the other day that said (paraphrasing) that the members elected Roo as their member rep, so if they dont like it they only have themselves to blame. I mean, Jesus effing Christ seriously?

Roo: “I want him to be happy at the club... lets sort it out, that’s all I want to do, just fix it up and move on and make the footy club better and give the current playing list and the coaches the best opportunity they can to have a good season."

Aka: "Get Bunj to shut up and let us go about our business"

I think you've both got it right...when Roo says it's been an 'annoying' week for him and that he'd like to 'just fix it up and move on' it really shows he still doesn't understand the issue at hand and isn't prepared to initiate real change...reading between the lines he basically thinks it's no big deal, that McLeod is in the wrong and is just being sensitive. Probably thinks a quick chat and a beer would fix it and make the issue go away.

Which shows McLeod has every right to feel aggrieved his repeated concerns have resulted in nothing.

He also turned it on McLeod and kind of blamed him publicly by saying he tried to reach out to him several times and his last call and text went unanswered, which kind of relates to McLeod's disappointment that the club responded to his concerns by changing the narrative around it being McLeod's issue.

 

[cedric]

People go on about the Crows being a boys club and in the next breath want McLeod as Chairman. Just remember everyone favoured the appointment of Roo at the time and Hart and even Burton were loved by supporters when they were playing. How did that turn out. I want to hear Andrew talk directly in detail about what the problem is and what change he wants to see instead of just dropping the usual “culture” and ”leadership” cliches like everybody else. It’d be great for him to do a live radio interview but I guarantee you he wouldn’t because it‘d be too uncomfortable for him. Much easier to read out a carefully prepared statement on his podcast where he can’t be challenged. I just want specifics.

 

[Ramify]

Hmmm, this isnt a result of forced downsizing of footy dept spending by any chance?

Strikes me as odd all round.

 

[1970crow]

Hmmm, this isnt a result of forced downsizing of footy dept spending by any chance?

Strikes me as odd all round.

Yeh, coz there’s never been a sniff of cultural issues at the club.

 

[Anzacpaul]

The fact that we are still in protect, attack, deflect mode, tells me the review didn't go far enough.

Roo must go.

I have no doubt Roo only wants what he thinks is best for the club. But the attitude stinks of "our way or the highway", "we know best", etc etc.


This attack on McLeod is pathetic, they should be welcoming his criticism, not giving him the treatment they are.

F**K off Roo, F**K off Chapman.

 

[hey shorty]

The fact that we are still in protect, attack, deflect mode, tells me the review didn't go far enough.

Roo must go.

I have no doubt Roo only wants what he thinks is best for the club. But the attitude stinks of "our way or the highway", "we know best", etc etc.


This attack on McLeod is pathetic, they should be welcoming his criticism, not giving him the treatment they are.

F**K off Roo, F**K off Chapman.

They all want what's best for the club, even Chappy.

They are just so wrong about what that is.

 

[Cap]

This whole thing is exactly what this club needs.

We are in the midst of an identify crisis

Going by social media we have some main players being;

Chapman
Roo and his band of ex players
Fagan
McLeod and his band of ex players.

Going by Fagan tweet and by his comments re: review it sounds like Fagan is not on the Chapman bandwagon.

But which side does Roo fall? McLeod is clearly not on Chapman's side. But what is his thoughts on Fagan?

Who aren't we seeing in this? It feels like a political party jostle of power between factions, I'm just not sure who the factions are.

 

[CroCop]

When you have wanking banking blokes running the footy club, you will get a cold, bottom line is all that counts attitude.

Yep , work in a bank and that’s all that matters to the heads of..

 

[BrissyCrow]

The fact that we are still in protect, attack, deflect mode, tells me the review didn't go far enough.

Roo must go.

I have no doubt Roo only wants what he thinks is best for the club. But the attitude stinks of "our way or the highway", "we know best", etc etc.


This attack on McLeod is pathetic, they should be welcoming his criticism, not giving him the treatment they are.

F**K off Roo, F**K off Chapman.

I have withheld my 2020 membership as a protest of the review. I was pleased when Burton & Company left and many said that it was a sign that there is change. I wasn't happy because the review details were never fully released when we were told that there would be full transparency. So I decided not to renew because I wanted the full details which I believed would have been damming for the board. Now here we are with all this shit flying around which only reinforces my concerns. Get rid of some senior individuals like Chapman and I will take out my membership again. But I want open accountability for each board member.

 

[Sanders]

David Penberthy has his say on radio ....

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FIVEaa’s David Penberthy says Andrew McLeod’s comments that “something is wrong” at the Adelaide Crows are hurting the club and are difficult to understand given the “generosity showered” on him by Adelaide FC.

Speaking on Friday’s FIVEaa breakfast show Penbo said he had a “different view with this” and would “say what I think” despite his wife Kate Ellis being a board member at the Adelaide Crows:

McLeod built this club. Buying him off with a few trinkets and telling him how to feel has a bit of a plantation air about it that is uncomfortable to me

 

[1970crow]

Reece the next sycophant to join the conga line. Still throwing the same punches as questions, but throws in just enough questions of the club to not look like it’s another club requested attack on Macca. Hell hath no fury like a chairman and CEO scorned.

 

[Southerntakeover]

McLeod built this club. Buying him off with a few trinkets and telling him how to feel has a bit of a plantation air about it that is uncomfortable to me

This- and adding to that the club's repeated comments about him being 'temperamental', and the undertones haven't been hard to spot.

Having said that, the most spectacular thing is that he's called them out as liars- they say he's never raised concerns, he directly rebuffs that.

 

[Southerntakeover]

People go on about the Crows being a boys club and in the next breath want McLeod as Chairman. Just remember everyone favoured the appointment of Roo at the time and Hart and even Burton were loved by supporters when they were playing. How did that turn out. I want to hear Andrew talk directly in detail about what the problem is and what change he wants to see instead of just dropping the usual “culture” and ”leadership” cliches like everybody else. It’d be great for him to do a live radio interview but I guarantee you he wouldn’t because it‘d be too uncomfortable for him. Much easier to read out a carefully prepared statement on his podcast where he can’t be challenged. I just want specifics.

Heaps good take, if you ignore the entirety of the interview that McLeod gave and just focus on what you'd like to be able to criticise about him if you got to make up the facts.

 

[Southerntakeover]

Unlike some on here a few of us are capable of changing opinions as more facts come out

And what about the attacks on McLeod that you felt comfortable dishing out before you bothered to ascertain the facts?

It's good to be able to work out you're wrong and change positions, but if your first instinct isnt to always try to kamikazee yourself into any criticism of the club, you wouldnt need to.

 

[kirky]

Again. I ask, why now? The reason is obvious.

 

[kirky]

McLeod built this club. Buying him off with a few trinkets and telling him how to feel has a bit of a plantation air about it that is uncomfortable to me

I'm calling bullshit on this. A team got us those two flags, not one player.

 

[Southerntakeover]

Again. I ask, why now? The reason is obvious.

Do you think repeatedly asking a stupid question gives it more weight?

 

[kirky]

Do you think repeatedly asking a stupid question gives it more weight?

No, but deciding to raise the issue now when it could have been raised 6 months ago when the review was being completed of the footy department just seems to be a bit hmmmm. If you can't see an agenda here well hmmmm.

PS : I don't put any footy player on a pedestal.

 

[SaltPeter]

Again. I ask, why now? The reason is obvious.

I get the impression from McLeods comments that the withdrawal of funding for his programs was the final straw.

It seems the senior members at the club look at his programs as fulfilling community expectations, but are really of no real interest to them. Almost like they provide assistance with funding, and a space to work in and then they can wander off and tick it off on their KPI’s and forget about it.

That would be a frustrating position for McLeod to be in, particularly if he sees a benefit from some senior management interaction. Or even just some basic interest.

 

[Southerntakeover]

No, but deciding to raise the issue now when it could have been raised 6 months ago when the review was being completed of the footy department just seems to be a bit hmmmm. If you can't see an agenda here well hmmmm.

PS : I don't put any footy player on a pedestal.

So that's it? Just dull and empty smear?

He should have limited his complains about the club's culture to a review with a limited frame of reference with the club's design? Why?

 

[Mego Red]

I get the impression from McLeods comments that the withdrawal of funding for his programs was the final straw.

It seems the senior members at the club look at his programs as fulfilling community expectations, but are really of no real interest to them. Almost like they provide assistance with funding, and a space to work in and then they can wander off and tick it off on their KPI’s and forget about it.

That would be a frustrating position for McLeod to be in, particularly if he sees a benefit from some senior management interaction. Or even just some basic interest.

To be honest, it's NOT core business of the club. We're supporting a cause that a club great is passionate about, and giving back to our community.

But funding probably should be withdrawn in times like these.

 

[1970crow]

No, but deciding to raise the issue now when it could have been raised 6 months ago when the review was being completed of the footy department just seems to be a bit hmmmm. If you can't see an agenda here well hmmmm.

PS : I don't put any footy player on a pedestal.

He’s questioning the entire culture. In fact, he’s clearly aimed at board and admin.