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News Media Thread, 2024: Insightful, Inciteful and Incomptent
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He is more likely to be successful at those than he is at football…
Maybe he will have a breakout year in his 8th season on a list. I mean it has to happen one year doesn’t it.
Id sooner move Reid to half forward for the year than leave Chesser stranded on a wing
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It’s a shame they don’t let him roam during the game and I’m not talking like James Tito
During the test matches roam. I mean straight out the exit doors never to be seen again roam…
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I agree. I think people are ignoring how important our financial power and ability to afford more and better resources than the other clubs has been in our success. It will be very hard to replicate the same level of success going forward now that that advantage has been taken away to an extent. We should have fought the soft cap a lot harder than we did and maybe told McLachlan that we will agree to address that inequality when they address the inequality of the GF at the MCG every year.
The team picked this weekend is not particularly young, despite how the club is trying to frame it. I get the argument of "who would you pick instead?". Thats a valid argument. It is not like we have young players banging down the door. And i get the argument that Simpson has to stop the 100 point beltings and stabilise things before bringing more youth into the 22. Thats also a valid argument. But it is also valid to say that we can't really claim to be making real strides towards our target of building a list with a sturdy base of quality youth with 50 plus games of experience whilst we are putting a 22 like this on the park. The dilemma just shows what a horrible place we are in as a club.
Young players are also able to develop in the WAFL, FYI.
It's not mandatory that they all play AFL together at the same time to get 'exposure'.
That's how you end up a perennial basketcase like Carlton and Melbourne were for years on end.
You cant just send 15 teenagers out there, when a bunch arent ready for AFL.
I see 7 guys named who are 21 or under. When fit, Hewett walks straight into the team when fit, Hall a good chance to be in there within the next month. Bazzo is injured but as a KPD in his 3rd year now hes doing fine. Maric is very close, but as a second year KPF there is no shame in playing some WAFL. These guys could all reasonably all be in the team by the middle of the year for Petch, Gaff, Jamieson and Witherden for example.
Those 4 would make it 11, which to be honest is a shetload. For reference North have 8 this week, but they have all their youngsters healthy.
Agree.
Remember this game in 2003 against Port Adelaide?
Cousins hit by Carr for a free before the bounce.
Kerr spear tackled by Burgoyne, in the first 5 minutes, resulting in a 3 week suspension.
Never was that worried watching our team full of kids before.
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I am not advocating picking players who are not good enough.
Every club has injuries. Lets not do the victimhood routine again for another year and pretend every other team had their best 22 all year except us.
Not sure those young players you mention will all just walk into the side when fit and if they do it will likely be at the expense of another young player.
Here are a list of other club with the same or more players with less than 100 games of experience in their named 22's as us for this weekend -
Essendon
Hawthorn
GWS
North
Gold Coast
Adelaide
Port
Freo
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Players approaching 100 games are quite often close to there peak. Most have been in the system for several years.
The issue for the match committee is that we have around 50% of the squad in the very early stages of there careers. Hough would be the most experienced of that group with 30 games and Brockman with 26 games under his belt.
In fact our seven youngest players on the weekend in Edwards, Hough , Chesser, Brockman, Ginbey, Long and Reid will add up to around 100 games played between them.
It’s going to be a very big ask to be competitive with that amount of inexperienced players in the team at once. The fact that the rest of the team is also trying to learn or implement a new style/gameplan isn’t going to help the situation either.
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You end up a basket place by playing half a dozen 31 year olds when you are last. Retirement then forces you to play those same young players. Why not just play them early?
Some still justify a game but all do not.
Carlton and Melbourne didn’t end up basket cases because they played young players in afl. Poor governance, poor standards, prioritising losing vs development was their issue.
Who do you think helps those young players develop on field during the game?
Because having no direction from senior players is going to hinder their development, not help it.
You need senior heads around to help the kids not only develop, but keep grounded, not drop their heads, etc.
Having mostly kids in the side will just end up with them getting pumped and, in turn, disillusioned.
Don't really want Reid leaving after 2 seasons because the club went full Norf.
There's 3 in the team named this week,I would not have selected.
They are Gaff,Cole and Petch.
Gaff is done and has been for a long time now
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Cole was useless in both pre,-season games and I'm sick of him turning the ball over and costing goals.
Petch just doesn't do enough,im tired of him showing glimpses here and there but mostly going missing.Hes not a young kid anymore.
Too many credits in the bank still.
They are Gaff,Cole and Petch.
Gaff is done and has been for a long time now
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Cole was useless in both pre,-season games and I'm sick of him turning the ball over and costing goals.
Petch just doesn't do enough,im tired of him showing glimpses here and there but mostly going missing.Hes not a young kid anymore.
Too many credits in the bank still.
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Easy to say not selecting them, but who's their replacement if they aren't playing and why does that player deserve their spot?
Chesser take Gaffs wing,Jones takes Coles spot down back,and either Dewar or Rawlinspn takes Petchs spot.
This is the reason we are in this situation. Too many supposed senior players are passengers and don't perform.
Chesser's in the side.
Jones, whilst I like him, isn't as good defensively and turns it over as much as Cole.
Dewar is travelling, so possibly close to a debut.
Rawlinson looked lively during the preseason but also looked lost at times. Also wouldn't have anywhere near the fitness required to play a full game.
Neither should be in the side over Petch, especially considering Petch is also an additional midfield rotation.
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Chesser is playing, Jones is out of the team for a reason - was he awful at training in pre season? Pet was one of the better players vs Adelaide in the only official pre-season game.
I understand the discussion over team selection but it highlights that we now have real options.(And there are several not just one in the mix.)
So we’re not sure who is best 23. That’s great. It not only means lots of discussion (which is an enjoyable part of sport) but also it’s a major step up from last year.
As to the R1 selections, don’t stress too much it’s only R1. We have a dozen or so in the WAFL meaning those not selected for the Eagles may actually get some development there - unlike last year.
Let’s see how the MC handle things as the B/Eagles sides get into their seasons. I’m hoping that the R23 side is more youthful than the R1 side. That would be development.
And a PS - I hope that the MC pursue the quickest route to a flag rather than just concentrating on the most wins. That would see the development of KPD#3, of Ruck#3. Similarly for the Gaff replacement. Maric or Waterman? Etc etc.
So we’re not sure who is best 23. That’s great. It not only means lots of discussion (which is an enjoyable part of sport) but also it’s a major step up from last year.
As to the R1 selections, don’t stress too much it’s only R1. We have a dozen or so in the WAFL meaning those not selected for the Eagles may actually get some development there - unlike last year.
Let’s see how the MC handle things as the B/Eagles sides get into their seasons. I’m hoping that the R23 side is more youthful than the R1 side. That would be development.
And a PS - I hope that the MC pursue the quickest route to a flag rather than just concentrating on the most wins. That would see the development of KPD#3, of Ruck#3. Similarly for the Gaff replacement. Maric or Waterman? Etc etc.
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So was the whole Harley on the back page campaign just geared around selling some advertising space in tomorrow’s Sunday Times?
I don’t think we need half a dozen 31 year olds for that on top of others. Some of those aren’t even performing. All it is now playing for super top up’s for retirement.
