Player Watch Nick Daicos - Can he be the GOAT?

[Arr0w]

More than the 4 weeks you're proposing....

Gone Critical and I have proposed the last two seasons in our earlier posts, which is more than reasonable.

This season Fadge, not last year, not the last 4 weeks

 

[Worm4]

More than the 4 weeks you're proposing....

Gone Critical and I have proposed the last two seasons in our earlier posts, which is more than reasonable.

Mate, if Cripps wins his 2nd this year, fair to say he is the top dog as at seasons end

 

[Fadge]

Mate, if Cripps wins his 2nd this year, fair to say he is the top dog as at seasons end

And if Daicos wins it, will you acknowledge he's 'Top Dog'?

 

[Worm4]

And if Daicos wins it, will you acknowledge he's 'Top Dog'?

Sure

 

[Worm4]

And if Daicos wins it, will you acknowledge he's 'Top Dog'?

But if Cripps wins it, then Nick's got 2 years to catch him, not overtake

 

[Fadge]

But if Cripps wins it, then Nick's got 2 years to catch him, not overtake

Hilarious.

Lachie Neale is currently twice the player Cripps is.

And infinitely better than Petracca, Gawn, Pendlebury, etc. have been... [sarcasm]

 

[Worm4]

Hilarious.

Lachie Neale is currently twice the player Cripps is.

And infinitely better than Petracca, Gawn, Pendlebury, etc. have been... [sarcasm]

Neale might get his 3rd, which would put him further in front of Nick in the pecking order . Nicks gotta start lifting his game you would think.

 

[Fadge]

Neale might get his 3rd, which would put him further in front of Nick in the pecking order . Nicks gotta start lifting his game you would think.

Oh no, so that would make Neale 3 times the player Cripps is?

 

[Worm4]

Oh no, so that would make Neale 3 times the player Cripps is?

I guess 4 times the player of Nick as well

 

[Gone Critical]

No, I'm actually arguing the claim that he currently is the best according to your mate.
I'm refuting that claim

Then I think you are splitting hairs. The answer to that question is subjective and there is no absolute right or wrong. Its an opinion. You asked for data that supports the claim and there is a reasonably strong case to be made from the data. Not sure how you can take it further. There are no absolutes with this opinion. Where else do you want to take it.

 

[Worm4]

Then I think you are splitting hairs. The answer to that question is subjective and there is no absolute right or wrong. Its an opinion. You asked for data that supports the claim and there is a reasonably strong case to be made from the data. Not sure how you can take it further. There are no absolutes with this opinion. Where else do you want to take it.

Can't lay claim of being the current best without taking some awards along the way. Copeland trophies aren't going to cut the mustard.

 

[Fadge]

I guess 4 times the player of Nick as well

No, he'd be INFINITELY better than Nick (and every other player who has never won a Brownlow, including Matthews, Carey, Buddy, Bont, etc.).

(According to your theory).

 

[Fadge]

Can't lay claim of being the current best without taking some awards along the way. Copeland trophies aren't going to cut the mustard.

So Leigh Matthews, Gary Ablett Snr and Wayne Carey should be excluded from the GOAT discussions?

 

[Arr0w]

So Leigh Matthews, Gary Ablett Snr and Wayne Carey should be excluded from the GOAT discussions?

Finally gone full circle, see brownlows really aren't that important in the GOAT stakes

 

[Worm4]

So Leigh Matthews, Gary Ablett Snr and Wayne Carey should be excluded from the GOAT discussions?

So are we talking about players who were part of the best of their generation, over the course of around 10-15 years then are we ? Oh boy.
Nicks got a long way to go then

 

[Fadge]

So are we talking about players who were part of the best of their generation, over the course of around 10-15 years then are we ? Oh boy.
Nicks got a long way to go then

Of course he has.

Which is mutually exclusive from being regarded as the best player in the league over a reasonable period of time.

 

[Do the Dew]

Use your 'statistics' to prove that he isn't...

And be sure to understand the statistics you're using to support your claim this time.

That's not how the burden of proof works. You (and others) have made the claim. Now you have to back it up. Not tell people to show stats proving he's not.

For example, if I made a claim that the Fadgelow (Fadge Browlow) is the greatest award that can be bestowed upon a player, I'd have to provide proof of that claim when challenged, otherwise it's just hot air. I can't make that claim and then tell people to prove that I'm wrong, because then I could just make another baseless claim and another...

 

[Fadge]

That's not how the burden of proof works. You (and others) have made the claim. Now you have to back it up. Not tell people to show stats proving he's not.

For example, if I made a claim that the Fadgelow (Fadge Browlow) is the greatest award that can be bestowed upon a player, I'd have to provide proof of that claim when challenged, otherwise it's just hot air. I can't make that claim and then tell people to prove that I'm wrong, because then I could just make another baseless claim and another...

Maybe read the thread and the other comments before and after this specific post, and reconsider what you want to say.

 

[bradfisher14]

Maybe read the thread and the other comments before and after this specific post, and reconsider what you want to say.

Back to your usual deflecting and gaslighting after taking a massive L.

 

[Arr0w]

Maybe read the thread and the other comments before and after this specific post, and reconsider what you want to say.

You made a claim that he is the best player in the competition this year, based on what metric ?

 

[Fadge]

Back to your usual deflecting and gaslighting after taking a massive L.

I think you have me confused with someone else.

It's all there in the thread - we'll let the rational users of this site determine who 'took the L' and who is 'gaslighting'...

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Naicos needs help bloke is carrying the whole side right now and not getting a inch of space at stoppages needs more blocks/support from his teammates.

Play Dgoey as a permanent mid?

 

[Fadge]

Naicos needs help bloke is carrying the whole side right now and not getting a inch of space at stoppages needs more blocks/support from his teammates.

Play Dgoey as a permanent mid?

This would be a great idea, though unfortunately i don't think De Goey's fitness levels are where they need to be to play permanent mid.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

This would be a great idea, though unfortunately i don't think De Goey's fitness levels are where they need to be to play permanent mid.

Looked bloody good when he went there for a stint on the weekend.

 

[Fadge]

Looked bloody good when he went there for a stint on the weekend.

And he is great for stints.

Might be an option after a few more games though fear that will be too little, too late.

It is refreshing to have some mature back and forth in this thread