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Indeed... if the Port Magpies are supposed the new kid on the SANFL block, then Port Adelaide FC is its father.
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Exactly. Unfortunately, PAFC2004, the same situation was true last year, when it was the 80's round. What did we wear in the 80's? .. Hmmmmm .. The AFL's response? To ask us to wear a "training guernsey" .. Good grief. I have no confidence that the great minds in charge this year will be any better
We can only hope, and ask the Club to make strong representations (again), which to their credit they seem to be doing.
Exactly. Unfortunately, PAFC2004, the same situation was true last year, when it was the 80's round. What did we wear in the 80's? .. Hmmmmm .. The AFL's response? To ask us to wear a "training guernsey" .. Good grief. I have no confidence that the great minds in charge this year will be any better
We can only hope, and ask the Club to make strong representations (again), which to their credit they seem to be doing.
Of course. But the main problem lies in people's ignorance. They don't realise the connection, and simply claim they know better, when in fact they know absolutely nothing.
The worst ones are those who claim they know all about our club,but are completely wrong. I'd really like to know how they think that makes sense.
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Thats not a bad idea actually ,surely supporters of other Sanfl clubs would like to see their guernsey having a day in the sun .Could be used as a promotion for sanfl and said club (different one each year except port) for the next 8 years .
Much better than wearing a state guernsey ,the thought of victorians and sandgropers wearing our state guernsey makes me fill ill
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Just wear the prison bar one without telling the AFL ...what they gonna do ? throw us out? i think not
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LOL, worst case scenario they never let us wear black and white in any guernsey again
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LOL, worst case scenario they never let us wear black and white in any guernsey again
Then they would have to apply the same rules to st kilda
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Thats not a bad idea actually ,surely supporters of other Sanfl clubs would like to see their guernsey having a day in the sun .Could be used as a promotion for sanfl and said club (different one each year except port) for the next 8 years .
Much better than wearing a state guernsey ,the thought of victorians and sandgropers wearing our state guernsey makes me fill ill
It opens up a big can of worms, doesn't it?
I guess the rationale is that because the Crows were made as a broad-based club before Port came in, and with the SANFL creating the AFC, that wearing a replica state jumper is a better way of honouring the league that created them. But with that being said, I wouldn't like to see the Crows wear the current design that is being used today.
As for other SANFL club jumpers, would anyone from the eight clubs allow it? Leave out Port Adelaide -- its only fair, leave their history to them -- for a 70's theme... there's a few there to look at. North Adelaide would be up the top of the list IMO because of their 1972 season with the SA Premiership then the Champs of Australia victory.
Again... can of worms.
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Hell, why stop there?
They can go tear up Swan Districts, Southport, Palmerston, Port Adelaide Magpies, Glenorchy, Western Suburbs... where will it end?
Gee... maybe I better shut up, may give them ideas.
cuthbert30
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Draw the names out of a hat ,first out first year then so on till you have the order of 8, and what ever theme the afl decide to use ie 70's ,80's is what guernsey they use of that club .North Adel have had a few versions over the years .Would be great to see "West Torrens or Centrals" playing someone.
And Adelaide did wear Woodville and Geelong guernsey's in their first ever scratch match at training
I certainly hope the comments Greg Boulton made on radio are true as that's the attitude we should have had from day 1 on this............
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Oh gee don't let them see that...
I totally agree with all fellow Crows fan in this thread. I think it just shows that the AFL is really a rebadged VFL.
Why should the other 15 clubs give a rats arse what Collingwood think? The AFL should put it to a vote of all 16 clubs. I'd be surprised if we didn't have an overwhelming majority of support.
the clock's ticking - the deadline looming & sooner or later reebok just wont have the time left to turn the appropriate jumpers around in time - why cant the decision just be made tomorrow ffs? its either yes or no, but the AFL are deliberately drawing it out so other circumstances come into the equation: AFL - "you know, youre training jumpers are still ready & waiting...."
who's to say the jumpers aren't ready as no matter what stupid decision the AFL makes about wearing them on the day the club can still make a point and money from them..........
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After making a stand (of sorts) last year by ignoring Heritage Week rather than wear a training jumper as required by the AFL the club is unlikely to give in and wear a training jumper this year.
The club needs to maintain the stance that we wear our guernsey for the period in question or we ignore Heritage Round altogether.
maybe they are, but i doubt it.
furthermore i doubt the additional stock (of 100's, thousands??) intended to be sold to the public during that round wouldnt be.
we'll sue the AFL for discrimination & loss of potential income (replica jumper sales) if we're not allowed to wear what's ours, the precedent has been set with freo & the swans, why are we so different?
You'd be amazed at what goes on behind the scenes and how quickly they can be done once the proto-type has been done and given the ok by the club.......
no but as I said above once the proto-type is done it's amazing how quickly thousands can be made as it's not as if the actual jumper design (besides colours) is different to the ones they make now...........
No we won't as it would be against what is in every team's licence with the AFL to be in their competition - otherwise Fitzroy would have had a field day in the courts.........unfortunately this is seriously big business with pretty much no regard to the long held traditions of the game but we knew that before moving from the SANFL into the VFL.
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Some time after the game on Saturday Schwartz and KB (on SEN) were discussing this issue and it was great to hear KB (I'm no fan of his) say that he couldn't see any reason why we shouldn't be able to wear the PB jumper (as long as we weren't playing Collingwood).
Schwartz proved he had little idea of our history other than "I know they won a lot of premierships" and KB had to explain a bit to the "dumb as an" Ox, including that the jumper is quite different from Collingwood's. Ox was surprisingly big enough to change his tune a little and admitted that he didn't know enough about it, and what it meant to Port fans, to be able to give an opinion, after originally saying he didn't see why we should wear it (and believing we are a different club in the AFL). KB set him straight with the conversation going for quite a few minutes and was surely heard by a reasonable size Vic audience. Thanks for the strong support KB
Schwartz proved he had little idea of our history other than "I know they won a lot of premierships" and KB had to explain a bit to the "dumb as an" Ox, including that the jumper is quite different from Collingwood's. Ox was surprisingly big enough to change his tune a little and admitted that he didn't know enough about it, and what it meant to Port fans, to be able to give an opinion, after originally saying he didn't see why we should wear it (and believing we are a different club in the AFL). KB set him straight with the conversation going for quite a few minutes and was surely heard by a reasonable size Vic audience. Thanks for the strong support KB
GRANTED, so what the frig are the afl so worried about what collingwood think anyway???
Does anyone have any idea why Andy D and his cronies do and say anything.......
That said I have faith and Greg Boulton, the board and JJ especially now we no longer have any liabilities with the AFL.
There've been some refreshing comments from past Collingwood players on this issue in recent times. I was listening to the ABC on Saturday in the lead up to the game. It was the Melbourne based commentary team and they had Ray Shaw on. They asked him what he thought of the jumper issue and he stated he had no problem with Port wearing it.
He stated that Port and Collingwood were two very similar clubs with great traditions in their local comps and hated by everyone else. He felt that Port should be able to wear the black and white any time they weren't playing Collingwood. The only issue in his mind was that as Collingwood were the first to wear the black and white stripes in the AFL that they should "have first dibs" on it.
Given that there are a reasonable number of Collingwood stalwarts and supporters who are quite happy for Port to wear the prison bars in heritage week and that some like Ray Shaw are prepared to let PAFC wear the jumper in any games which don't involve Collingwood it's hard to understand why the AFL is holding out on the heritage week issue at the behest of the Eddie McGuires of this world.
He stated that Port and Collingwood were two very similar clubs with great traditions in their local comps and hated by everyone else. He felt that Port should be able to wear the black and white any time they weren't playing Collingwood. The only issue in his mind was that as Collingwood were the first to wear the black and white stripes in the AFL that they should "have first dibs" on it.
Given that there are a reasonable number of Collingwood stalwarts and supporters who are quite happy for Port to wear the prison bars in heritage week and that some like Ray Shaw are prepared to let PAFC wear the jumper in any games which don't involve Collingwood it's hard to understand why the AFL is holding out on the heritage week issue at the behest of the Eddie McGuires of this world.
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Basically Collingwood don't have a problem, eddie does.
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