Oppo Camp Non Geelong football (AFL) discussion 2023, part I

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EXCEPT that great Cats team 08 could NOT beat the Hawks.
Nice IRRELEVANT theory.
Imo the 08 cats are the best team I’ve ever seen. It took an anomaly for us to not with that.
They even changed the rules the following year.
Cats win that 9/10 times.
Unfortunately the stars didn’t align and Hawthorn is engraved in the cup.
 
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I think you’re really underselling Brisbane, to me the only question mark is whether they can do it at the MCG (admittedly it’s a big question mark).

They are as ready as they’ll ever be. Two elite mids in Neale and Dunkley, elite KPPs at either end in Daniher and Andrews, the best small forward in the comp. Great run from the backline in Coleman and McKenna.

I think on paper they’re the most balanced side in the comp with stars on most lines.

100 % yes but they are mentally suspect under pressure which is why they havent won a GF yet. Whether they can change that next week who knows.
 

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The sheer number of repeat intercepts on both sides during patches of play when the game was hot indicated very little control or thinking on the part of the players

Damn it was fun to watch though. Shame the orange tsunami couldn't get it done. I think they have a bit of a case to be filthy about the umpiring too. Not egregious but bad.

I dont know i like more thinking in my footy..watching players just bomb it to a wall to be repelled back and intercept marking from dump kick fests between the arcs isnt my kind of footy. It indicates people that panic and lack skill. The best era teams like geelong and hawthorn of the last 15 years you could see skill in them actually using hand or feet to move the ball from end to end and you could see a clear gameplan. Now half the time its just low skill slugfests. I know part of that is fatigue because theyve capped interchanges but its not all that honestly the skill levels of a lot of players is way worse than 10 years ago and it makes a lot of footy unwatchable for me now.

But everyone has different tastes im glad if you enjoyed the game.
 
I dont know i like more thinking in my footy..watching players just bomb it to a wall to be repelled back and intercept marking from dump kick fests between the arcs isnt my kind of footy. It indicates people that panic and lack skill. The best era teams like geelong and hawthorn of the last 15 years you could see skill in them actually using hand or feet to move the ball from end to end and you could see a clear gameplan. Now half the time its just low skill slugfests. I know part of that is fatigue because theyve capped interchanges but its not all that honestly the skill levels of a lot of players is way worse than 10 years ago and it makes a lot of footy unwatchable for me now.

But everyone has different tastes im glad if you enjoyed the game.
Good game but too low scoring to be truely great.
Collingwoods inability to put big scores on as of late might be their undoing next week.
 
Imo the 08 cats are the best team I’ve ever seen. It took an anomaly for us to not with that.
They even changed the rules the following year.
Cats win that 9/10 times.
Unfortunately the stars didn’t align and Hawthorn is engraved in the cup.
Even with that, the coaches and players had a bad day.

If they’d kicked straight, they would have won.
 
Nah i liked the effort because you had 2 teams fully committed and i respect that.

But asides from a few class players-guys like daicos and pendles and sidey and de goey and greene and ash and whitfield and green on the other it was a case of watching a bunch of potato farmers at the bottom end of each team make skill error after skill error. Thats what this year has been a race to the bottom not a race to the top.

Collingwood are just lucky they are slightly less crap than everyone else. Each to their own but not a standard of footy to catch my interest.
I sort of agree and disagree. I do think whoever wins this year is easily a wrung below us last year and it doesn't that feel right that this year's flag is worth as much as ours.

On the other hand, I thought last night was a really enjoyable game (except for the Pies winning and umpire impact). I can see what you're saying about there were some classy players that really stood out, but I thought last night was good quality overall. I'd definitely agree about some of the other close finals this year (Pies-Dees was awful, Carlton-Dees not much better, Carlton-Swans I think was awful first half but had a much better second half).

People do talk about finals pressure as an excuse for poor skills at times, which I think is a bit of a weak excuse. These are meant to be the best teams of the year with the best individual players. They should be able to handle the pressure.
 
I sort of agree and disagree. I do think whoever wins this year is easily a wrung below us last year and it doesn't that feel right that this year's flag is worth as much as ours.

On the other hand, I thought last night was a really enjoyable game (except for the Pies winning and umpire impact). I can see what you're saying about there were some classy players that really stood out, but I thought last night was good quality overall. I'd definitely agree about some of the other close finals this year (Pies-Dees was awful, Carlton-Dees not much better, Carlton-Swans I think was awful first half but had a much better second half).

People do talk about finals pressure as an excuse for poor skills at times, which I think is a bit of a weak excuse. These are meant to be the best teams of the year with the best individual players. They should be able to handle the pressure.
Time and space can close really quickly when two evenly matched quality side run out in a sudden death final and if both sides can keep the pressure on for 100 minutes you have to expect the skills to slip and a territory game to dominate.
 
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