Cox has the Swans gig lined up for when Horse walks away.
He's not trading it for the rebuilding shitshow at the Eagles.
Oppo Camp Non Geelong football (AFL) discussion 2024, Part I
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Cox has the Swans gig lined up for when Horse walks away.
He's not trading it for the rebuilding shitshow at the Eagles.
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Got to chase that sweet sweet COLA money
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Tbf coaching in general is a shitshow which is why I’m shocked that the media haven’t really given credit for Scott doing it for free durring COVID
Hence why it’s high pressured and a shit show and pays well…I still wouldn’t do it personally
Doesn't sell papers.
People are gonna be mad and yet, the AFL kept their word with the rule changes in regards to this.
Damned if they do, damned if they don't
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And obviously not enough games for the "good guy discount"
With Webster clearly bleeding after the incident, they were never going to be able to argue the impact was below low and clearly it was high contact
The only thing they could try to argue down intentional to careless, but with it being that far out of the direct action & the directive that a striking charge will present with an intentional conduct - surely that was always going to be hard to argue that down
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The Heeney decision:
Reasons:
The swing of Heeney's arm was forceful, and it was more than a swatting motion. Having looked carefully at the vision, we find that it falls comfortably within the language of clause 4.3(b), the guidelines, in that he was intending to forcefully push or fend off Webster to gain separation for the purpose of contesting the ball.
The guidelines distinguish between push and fend in a way that makes clear that a fend means something different to or at least more than a push, bearing in mind the obvious purpose of the rule to reduce the incidence of blows such as this would be illogical to capture pushes, but not capture forceful swings of the arm.
Clause 4.3(b) states that if the effect of such an action is that the reportable offense of striking is committed, the strike will usually be graded as intentional. We find that this was the effect. It was a forceful blow to Webster's face.
This part of clause 4.3 is only engaged if a player is not intending to strike, only intending to push or fend.
As a player whose conduct is captured by this provision will always be in a position of saying they did not actually intend to strike their opponent.
The provision makes clear it will usually be so graded. We do not find that there is anything about the circumstances of this offence that would reasonably characterize it as other than usual, given the natural language of the provision and the evident purpose of the provision.
As we have said, Heeney's swing of the arm was a forceful blow, and he intended that blow to make contact with Webster, albeit not to his face. We are not satisfied that he intended only to make contact with Webster's hands.
Then a submission that the act attracts the operation of regulation 19.6(a) two, in that there are exceptional and compelling circumstances which would make it inappropriate to apply the consequences of appendix one to the classification that's been determined by the tribunal for an offence.
We do not find that the circumstances of this strike that has been graded as intentional render it appropriate to apply the appendix A classification.
Mr Heeney has a good record, and his immediate and genuine concern for the consequence of his strike were apparent.
This was an intentional strike resulting in injury, and accordingly, we consider a one-match sanction is appropriate.
Reasons:
The swing of Heeney's arm was forceful, and it was more than a swatting motion. Having looked carefully at the vision, we find that it falls comfortably within the language of clause 4.3(b), the guidelines, in that he was intending to forcefully push or fend off Webster to gain separation for the purpose of contesting the ball.
The guidelines distinguish between push and fend in a way that makes clear that a fend means something different to or at least more than a push, bearing in mind the obvious purpose of the rule to reduce the incidence of blows such as this would be illogical to capture pushes, but not capture forceful swings of the arm.
Clause 4.3(b) states that if the effect of such an action is that the reportable offense of striking is committed, the strike will usually be graded as intentional. We find that this was the effect. It was a forceful blow to Webster's face.
This part of clause 4.3 is only engaged if a player is not intending to strike, only intending to push or fend.
As a player whose conduct is captured by this provision will always be in a position of saying they did not actually intend to strike their opponent.
The provision makes clear it will usually be so graded. We do not find that there is anything about the circumstances of this offence that would reasonably characterize it as other than usual, given the natural language of the provision and the evident purpose of the provision.
As we have said, Heeney's swing of the arm was a forceful blow, and he intended that blow to make contact with Webster, albeit not to his face. We are not satisfied that he intended only to make contact with Webster's hands.
Then a submission that the act attracts the operation of regulation 19.6(a) two, in that there are exceptional and compelling circumstances which would make it inappropriate to apply the consequences of appendix one to the classification that's been determined by the tribunal for an offence.
We do not find that the circumstances of this strike that has been graded as intentional render it appropriate to apply the appendix A classification.
Mr Heeney has a good record, and his immediate and genuine concern for the consequence of his strike were apparent.
This was an intentional strike resulting in injury, and accordingly, we consider a one-match sanction is appropriate.
Wonder whether Adam Simpson ever gets another senior coaching gig.
Simpson's younger than I thought tbh. He looks like he's 55 but he's actually only 48 still.
One million big reasons he's now going to look 38.
Yep, my two cup$ of coffee bet is now lost, not collecting thousands of them.
Go Cripps.
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The MRO system is broken. Christian has a box ticking exercise set up so that almost everything gets caught in a big net. Then you're off to the tribunal to let lawyers determine guilt for split second altercations in slow motion and interpreting the root meaning of every word in the rule book.
When guys can face their opponent and punch them in the abdomen and get off from suspension, in some cases multiple times, but this sees a brownlow fancy miss a week the game has truly lost its way.
When guys can face their opponent and punch them in the abdomen and get off from suspension, in some cases multiple times, but this sees a brownlow fancy miss a week the game has truly lost its way.
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Misses the geelong game which I am happy about
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Scott needs to coach from the bench like a cheerleader and hug his players in public more.
That will do the trick
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Holy **** consider me shocked
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Watch Heeney get absolutely no votes for the rest of the year now to make sure he isn't ahead on brownlow night
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That’s the rules I’m not too upset over the Heeney suspension no one gave too much sympathy over Dnager’s tackle suspension all those years ago from memory
The Brownlow doesn’t mean much anymore these days anyway
The Brownlow doesn’t mean much anymore these days anyway
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Rakine will be out for our game now too which is nice for us.
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