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Out- one of cotchin or Prestia( rested)- Ryan (if injured) Ralphsmith
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I knew something wasn't right, cheers.
No one is getting rested a week after the bye.
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Thank god for that. So many potential shots on goal turned into either turn overs or stoppages that get rebounded out.
Possibly also why Shorty is taking these long bombs now suddenly? Its a 'low' % chance from 55 (not lately for Short tho) but it still is a scoring opportunity. We don't need every shot to be 30m out directly in front.
At a guess from the outside with literally no knowledge of how either coaches work, possibly the team was a little over coached? You see teams get indecisive when that happens which we looked incredibly so. Seems overall we're playing on instinct a bit more?
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He'll just ignore all those stats and just point to the 59% Disposal Efficiency (The same as Dusty's btw who also played in the middle this week).
Bloke is an attention-seeking flog who would argue Taranto is a crap player even after he won our Club B&F, the Brownlow and a flag, if it got him more air time.
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Vlaustins was still very early? Was like mid 3rd quarter.
And I gotta disagree with that, we absolutely have done that type of shit. Lynch for sure has haha.
No, there is no more resting plus we have the bye so they rest then. Seriously why would you even suggest a thing.
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Just watching the replay this morning (currently late in the 3rd quarter) and a couple of things to note:
Grimes & Macca who were both under the pump a fair bit this year, both had cracking games. Hard and tough/desparate in the contest particularly in the 2nd/3rd qtr.
Jack Ross' side step is becoming elite. He belongs at the level now.
Loved all the obvious ones: Taranto, Cotch & Dusty (both in beast mode), Vlas, Balta, Bolton, Bakes. You could really name all 22...
Geez we got absolutely stiff by the umps, I mean whats new, but each week is another level lower. Prestia's out of bounds being called deliberate when Jack was on the boundary line as it went out is just one of the many absurd calls against us.
Grimes & Macca who were both under the pump a fair bit this year, both had cracking games. Hard and tough/desparate in the contest particularly in the 2nd/3rd qtr.
Jack Ross' side step is becoming elite. He belongs at the level now.
Loved all the obvious ones: Taranto, Cotch & Dusty (both in beast mode), Vlas, Balta, Bolton, Bakes. You could really name all 22...
Geez we got absolutely stiff by the umps, I mean whats new, but each week is another level lower. Prestia's out of bounds being called deliberate when Jack was on the boundary line as it went out is just one of the many absurd calls against us.
out - Ryan(inj) HRS (omit)
in - Pickett,Banks
Banks- starts i/c
Pickett -Fwd
Clarke - sub
if Hopper comes in its for JGTI only
in - Pickett,Banks
Banks- starts i/c
Pickett -Fwd
Clarke - sub
if Hopper comes in its for JGTI only
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paying attempted torps in the wet as OTF was just blatant cheating.
Just lip read his lips...Mick is saying...they love me still...
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No Soldo please Bojangles17 as he’s too slow for what we need. Unfortunately Our power CHF in Benjamin Miller will need to do another team sacrificing stint.
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I'm looking forward to " Confident Miller" the big guy who aggressively attacks in air contests and punches clear or uses two hands to mark. An observation is that his foot skills markedly improve when he more positive / confident in his aerial work. Huge upside for the team.
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Its obvious to me, with Marlion back, Miller just plays Ryans role.
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I knew the free kick count has been shit, but looking at which players get them it looks even worse.
Frees for.
Backline: Grimes got 2, Broad 2, Young 1, Short 1, Balta 1, Rioli 1.
Midfield: Martin 1, Cotchin 1, Bolton 1. 3 total to our mids.
Forward: Rewioldt 1.
Taranto, Cotchin, Prestia, Martin and Bolton had a combined 66 contested possessions, 31 clearances and 26 tackles and landed a massive 3 frees between them. How do the oppositions teams suddenly became so careful and perfect against us? We used to always be on the bottom of the free kick count and everyone its because we don't play first the ball which leads to frees. Well now what?
Thats 66 times they are in contested possessions when they won the ball + all the times where you are in and under but don't get a possession. In all those times they basically were never taken high? Pushed in the back? Held without it? And same for tackles. 26 tackles and basically no Saints players dropped it at any point?
Last week was the same. Those 5 got 2 frees total for their combined 65 contested, 30 clearances and 16 tackles
Frees for.
Backline: Grimes got 2, Broad 2, Young 1, Short 1, Balta 1, Rioli 1.
Midfield: Martin 1, Cotchin 1, Bolton 1. 3 total to our mids.
Forward: Rewioldt 1.
Taranto, Cotchin, Prestia, Martin and Bolton had a combined 66 contested possessions, 31 clearances and 26 tackles and landed a massive 3 frees between them. How do the oppositions teams suddenly became so careful and perfect against us? We used to always be on the bottom of the free kick count and everyone its because we don't play first the ball which leads to frees. Well now what?
Thats 66 times they are in contested possessions when they won the ball + all the times where you are in and under but don't get a possession. In all those times they basically were never taken high? Pushed in the back? Held without it? And same for tackles. 26 tackles and basically no Saints players dropped it at any point?
Last week was the same. Those 5 got 2 frees total for their combined 65 contested, 30 clearances and 16 tackles
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Great analysis
Something has changed slightly as they look more free in the mind but one thing that hasn't changed yet under mini is the blowing of leads, 3rd straight week now and even though we have won all of them it's so damn frustrating, i want us to demolish teams.
vs GWS: lead by 29 pts 3m in 2nd qtr, concede the next 4 goals to lead by 2 pts at 22m in 2nd qtr.
vs Freo: lead by 36 pts 21m in 3rd qtr, concede the next 6 out of 7 goals to lead by 7 pts at 4m in 4th qtr.
vs StK: lead by 25 pts 18m in 3rd qtr, concede the next 3 goals to lead by 6 pts at 29m in 3rd qtr. ( also a 4 goal head start to saints )
But it's been a theme all year in almost all games where we either get a good lead then shut up shop allowing the oppo back into the game or we give up a 1st qtr head start to the opposition and need to work back into it. As Tiges1229 puts it, Jekyll and Hyde within a game.
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Missy Higgins is 20% more likely to get a free kick since clearing off to Moorabbin.
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Jeez he made a flog of himself. I cant stand him now.
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Alright this is actually something ****y when looking at total frees across the league. I don't think theres even actually been a conspiracy with the umpires trying to make a team lose, but looking at these stats its hard to think they don't umpire teams differently.
Taranto is 1st in the league for disposals, 3rd for contested disposals. 4th in the league for tackles, sitting 316th in the league for frees for.
He has 190 total contested touches and 98 tackles and has got 9 FREES. 9! in 14 games.
Adam Cerra has 34 frees for the season. Taranto, Prestia, Cotchin and Martin have a COMBINED 30 frees.
Not that the same contested possessions should lead to the same frees, but players that are wining the ball in close generally have a higher chance of getting infringed on. This is the top 20 contested ball winners with Richmond main midfielders.
| Player | Contested Disposals | Frees for | Contested touches per free |
| Cerra | 149 | 34 | 4.4 |
| Mitchell | 157 | 26 | 6 |
| Rowell | 186 | 27 | 6.9 |
| Newcombe | 145 | 21 | 6.9 |
| Serong | 181 | 26 | 7 |
| Dunkley | 184 | 26 | 7.1 |
| Butters | 155 | 21 | 7.4 |
| Laird | 180 | 23 | 7.8 |
| Neale | 189 | 24 | 7.9 |
| Cripps | 206 | 21 | 9.8 |
| Oliver | 157 | 16 | 9.8 |
| Bont | 198 | 18 | 11 |
| Worpel | 161 | 14 | 11.5 |
| Crouch | 164 | 14 | 11.7 |
| Bolton | 141 | 11 | 12.8 |
| Martin | 115 | 8 | 14.4 |
| Libba | 176 | 12 | 14.7 |
| Kelly | 174 | 11 | 15.8 |
| Cotchin | 97 | 6 | 16.2 |
| Prestia | 117 | 7 | 16.7 |
| Green | 188 | 11 | 17.1 |
| Petrecca | 180 | 10 | 18 |
| Taranto | 190 | 9 | 21.1 |
| Anderson | 166 | 6 | 27.7 |
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Taranto the opposite with a much larger percentage
Last year he has 25 touches, 9.7 contested and 4.8 tackles and got 1.7 frees per game.
This year he has 32 touches, 13.6 contested and 7 tackles and gets 0.6 frees per game.
How does a players numbers go up by 30%-45% in areas that should lead to winning frees, yet his frees for drop by 64%? Clearly its not just the type of players he is, he used to win frees. Has he changed the way he plays in such a way that he no longer gets infringed on?
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Don’t know if you have gone into the umps board but one of our posters made a thread asking about why we get ****ed by the umps so regularly
A Hawks poster made an interesting point (not verified)
But said the training footage the umps use for free kicks featured mostly Richmond and Hawthorn infringements and Geelong and Dogs received in the footage
I have no idea how true this is but if it’s true it could absolutely play a role in subconsciously influencing decisions around these teams and interesting enough Hawks and Richmond are two of the sides mostly on the bad side of the free kick counts and we all know the opposite for the dogs
Cats are middle of the table
Would love to know if it’s true
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