Autopsy Roast & Toast vs St Kilda rd18 & Changes for Collingwood rd19

[rowlingsdevsqd]

My take after watching the game slightly more sober than last night:

Have to echo the sentiments of us taking the foot off the pedal. Yet (and I wasn’t at the game some would love to be told if I’m wrong or right) St Kilda seemed to put another one or two players back in the second half, and just tried to slow the game to stop the bleeding.

Was really happy with our first half in entering the ball inside 50. I think that would have been one of the criticisms in the team review after the GWS game. Our ball use was better, forward lead patters where better and when we did bomb it to the top of the square - for the most part - the read between the aerial contest and those on the ground was better. Still not a 10/10 as I felt that all the way through the game there was a lot of opportunities that we didn’t exploit to the fullest.

The negatives, you have to start with Menadue. Similar criticism I had about CEllis last week about going hard into contest can be applied. But he did work hard Menadue which was pleasing. If Houli, Graham or Butler are ready to return he would make way your think. But I’d like to see him given another opportunity.

Then there is Callum Moore. As has been echoed in previous posts, heading into Finals it’ll be Townsend v. Moore for that second tall spot. He did his primary job well tonight, which was to keep Carlisle occupied and not go plus one in the air. To a degree, Jack’s game was influenced by Moore’s ability in this regard. But that spot will come down to which player offers more than that. I’d love to hear Leppa’s take on Cal. To me he seems to read the ball off the boot quicker than his opponent. The amount of time that he got separation from Carlisle was striking. But he seems to not read the actual land spot of the ball and so overruns the ball fairly often. I also think his relative lack experience shows as there was a few times that there seemed to be a disconnect between the midfielder delivering the ball and where cal wanted the ball to go, ending in a turnover. Then there are the dropped marks which he really should clunk.

I’d keep him in to be honest, as long as he keeps the second tall at bay eliminating oppo +1 chances I think he’s worth persisting with.

Onto the positives. I thought Caddy and Martin got back into some form which is pleasing. Then there is Neon Dion. I wish there was a camera dedicated to him cause it seems as if his running patterns are artful. Where to go, when to go and when to slow. His impact on the game was massive. When you think about it, our midfields great because of the depth, but also the versatility. Prestia’s ability to read it off hands is elite, Cotch is the contest ball king, Shedda the Extractor, Lambert out runs everyone and then there’s that Dustin Martin character. Thought he deserved three votes. Or maybe 2.5 split with Dusty for 1 and 2.

Gotta give some love for Broad. Had a broken face, came back early and didn’t shirk one contest. Wasn’t a perfect game, nor would I say his best, but what a solid contributor he is. As Grimes gets almost universal acclaim as one of the most underrated players in the comp (making the underrated claim somewhat oxymoronic) Broad is slowly developing in a fashion where I can see us saying the same things about Broad that we do Grimes. Scary to think he has played less than 30 AFL games.

Lastly, Higgo. I said about a month back that his biggest issue was either the game is too fast for him at the moment or he expects the game to be faster than it is. Either way he seems way too rushed. Last night was definitive for me in that he has now settled nicely. Has picked up the pace and is making better decisions and his disposal looks better. Good to see him kick another snag last night too.

A good warm-up (without meaning to sound disrespectful to the Saints) for a Collingwood team that will no doubt get themselves up for the contest.

Ins and Outs: No Change.

Geary played a lot as a spare in the back line, there was a lot of backwards kicking by saints to hold onto the ball.




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[roacheee]

On friday night footy my Dusty gave to me

563 metres gained
30 disposals
14 score involvements
13 contested possessions
seven inside-50s.
five clearances
4 on his back
3 stoppages
2 ripping marks
and a partridge in a pear tree................

 

[Wacky Tiger]

Higgins racking up experience in the team and holding his own is pleasing to see. Has gone alright in his first year, the coaches would be stoked with his efforts

Yeah hes one ive been pleasantly surprised with. I queried early on whether he had earnt his spot. Seems his footy IQ is top shelf and hes looking more and more comfortable each and every week. Despite only the one game this weekend so far surely hes due a Rising Star nom.

 

[Sir_Loin]

If I was a saints supporter I'd be spewing. Their effort was insipid. I remember when we were shit and just didn't have the talent. With the saints it's not so much lack of talent but lack of intensity.

I went to the game. Always easier to watch the setups and leads. Moore is struggling to lead in the right spot and even ran under the ball. I came away questioning if he's really a forward. If we are going to be hard nosed we should swap him for Townsend.

Kamdyn is gangly and awkward but he attacks the ball hard, has penetration in his kicks and the beauty of this team is everyone knows where to kick it to as opposed to who to kick it to. Not a vote winning game but I would not drop him either.

Some of the disposals by Dusty, Edwards, Prestia and Rioli were sublime. That left foot by Martin to Riewoldt (I think) was as good as you will see.

That dusty kick had to be lace out to jack. If it wasn’t the saints had the outnumber and it would have been raced straight back up the field. Not many players could make that kick

He looked like he was wanting to get out of first gear last night. Cherry ripe at the right time

 

[TigerMoz1973]

Not enough Nank love in these votes.

He was once again in Beast mode.

He was in Beast Mode when roaming Brian tried interview him and the Big Nank just stared at him and walked away.

Bloody fantastic!

 

[NZ_Tiger]

Menadue and Moore were poor. Kamdyn was a good inclusion and was missed last week.

I’d still give Moore another chance, Connor on the other hand lacked commitment in the contest and lacked the courage to back himself when he had the ball.

Menadue for Butler.


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[Wacky Tiger]

Oppos are pretty scared now upon realizing meatball is top 5 mid in the comp when fit

Actually looks pretty trim too. Reckon in his mid-season mini pre-season he may have lost a couple of kegs

 

[TigerMoz1973]

“This could change but my sources are potentially telling me that Tom Lynch is definitely maybe reliably going to somewhere so that could potentially change the way the Tigers maybe don’t do not maybe definitely handle their back to back chances.”

- Tom Browne, cleaned the roof gutters at Melbourne Uni one time on school experience

Great Post

 

[TigermanM2]

I have a chuckle whenever an opposition player gets on the radio after a loss to us and says "we let them play like that"
NO you dumb schmuck, WE made YOU play like that!!!

 

[Tony Harrison]

One of the commentators said last night "the Tiges are even quicker here than the G if thats possible

Was an illusion as we were running around witches hats for the most part.

 

[biaseddustyfan]

Rewatching the first quarter and not sure if we are just that good or shitkilda were tanking

They looked like they aren't even running and they kept handballing it straight to space in front of our players

Did they even have enough players on the ground?

 

[theflea]

Yeah Nank lays a beautiful tackle on a saints player brings hime to ground and the maggott called it a high tackle...free kick invention i call it!

And stevens threw his head back and the ump fell for it.

 

[captain blood 17]

Why jinx our chances and give collingwood supporters a chance to rub your nose in your own arrogance? (Although inclined to agree with you

Jinx it? Let me guess, you thought the Adelaide game was a danger game and the saints were too.
They are already shooting their mouths off. A super soft draw and have beaten two teams in the top 10.
They need to be told to sit the **** down and shut the **** up. They are nowhere near us as a club right now. Their audit is coming and it will be magnificent. They won’t even beat Norf today.


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[captain blood 17]

About 4 next Saturday alrhough we're on a hiding to nothing next week. Win they have injuries. Lose and its the Pies greatest win in history

We are gonna smash them like hillbillies smash banjos and their female cousins.


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[rmcq]

Toast: Dusty’s right (and left) foot
Roast: Precious St. Kilda players too scared to contest the ball. Made the game a bit boring.

 

[DrMike]

Bloody hell I just woke up to 104 notifications.

At least thank joelsyt for her 102 likes

 

[SA_Tiger11]

He would be right at home there after all they have 26 wooden spoons

Lol.

I swear he hates footy. Looks so disinterested.

 

[Rumballs]

parmy2balmey went at 1/4 time. You blokes sharing socks again?

One of the great sock DPs

 

[Neen]

Not concerned at all about the 2nd half. Our brand of footy is predictable. We almost allow our opposition to stay with us until halfway through the third quarter, and then blow them away in the last. This game was the complete opposite, blow them away in the first quarter and half the second quarter. Game over. Coast the second half. I don't know if it was a deliberate ploy, but it certainly would have other coaches concerned. Throwing Vlastuin forward was interesting. Dimma always says "we learn more from defeats than wins". The second half was a chance for some experimentation. In addition, I'd rather walk away with a 50 point win, away from the MCG, against another team running into "form", than walk away with a 100 point drubbing, Prestia with a soft tissue injury and a player like Nank to go down. This is a marathon, not a sprint race.

For the first time in years, we sat almost on the boundary, and in the first quarter, we could hear the defensive chatter amongst the players. The way these guys communicate and set up behind play was interesting. Constant chatter. Always on the move, looking after their opponent, and making sure their teammates are looking after theirs. Rance was spending a lot of time catching his breath. He looked tired and in pain throughout the game - even in the first quarter.

Prestia was the highlight. Allows Lambert to play outside mid and then rest forward. Dusty was anything but. Awesome power out of stoppages. Short is creative, composed, highly skilled decision maker. Priority to sign him up. Will be crucial to our finals aspirations. Nank is incredible. Covers so much ground, competes and has a loping left foot. Jack is an inspiration. Edwards is a magician.

I think Castagna struggles without Butler. Menadue is either not up to it, or needs to string 3-4 games to find out where he is at. Problem is, we can't carry him at this stage of the season. Moore covers a lot of ground, but the gap between VFL and AFL is too wide for him at this stage of his development. However, a break out game before the finals could provide an edge. If Lynch was parked in the forward line last night, it would have been very ugly, without even trying.

Bank the points, we have bigger fish to fry. Next two weeks are crucial, against opponents we should beat easily. Timing our run to perfection.

Chopping block - Menadue
Possible in - Whoever presents themselves at VFL level

 

[SA_Tiger11]

Love ‘****’ Broad. Tough as. Me and a couple mates floated that pic he took after the gf last year around last night. What a legend. Put him in the hall of fame.

 

[Rumballs]

Did you put it back on afterwards?

Word is he never took it off.

 

[Shazza_]

think im going blind in one eye from all the salt over us on this forum from oppo gimps

 

[Nobby]

Free Kicks
24-13 Saints Way

Didn't we have 13 at 3 quarter time??

Absolutely atrocious, they tried to rough us up in the 3rd and still won the frees.

 

[DickieKnee]

And stevens threw his head back and the ump fell for it.

Meanwhile Rance is labelled a Diver and never gets another free kick.

 

[Shazza_]

im banned from lynch thread so ill post it here..

at about 2am last night on sen some colonwood fan dude who has a bit to do with sorrento footy club rang in and said word around the club is Lynch heading our way and lock in Lynch to Richmond..