Odds on Gaff's first mark leading to him looking inboard, up the ground, then inboard again, looking confused and then launching a monster kick backwards for a net gain of -15m?
Prediction Round 12, 2024: Changes vs St Kilda
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I'm going to be pretty impressed if we go in with:
F: Ryan, Darling, Cripps
HF:
C: Gaff, Yeo, Sheed
HB: Cole, McGovern, Duggan
B: Barrass.
10 out of 10 listed 2018 Premiership players.
An Adam Simpson wet dream.
Unfortunately it means we have to find players to plug spots who don't have medallions. But check this out: for that we have Kelly, Waterman, Allen, Hough, Reid- all first class players. And three players we've recruited specifically for needs- Witherden, Hunt, Flynn.
It's a starting 18 3 years into a supposed "rebuild" entirely lacks what you'd consider a youth development pick.
Make the bench up of Ginbey, B.Williams, Petruccelli, Rotham and wonder of wonders, the side Simmo's been angling for is a best 22 that might only contain Ginbey in a developing role.
Thats a more mature outfit than the 18 premiership side that contained Venables.
I'll fight anyone who says we should not be aiming to win the big dance in 25 with the side above, which I think is the current Simmo credits tm first picked side. If we are not trying to win it all, then what the hell are we doing?
F: Ryan, Darling, Cripps
HF:
C: Gaff, Yeo, Sheed
HB: Cole, McGovern, Duggan
B: Barrass.
10 out of 10 listed 2018 Premiership players.
An Adam Simpson wet dream.
Unfortunately it means we have to find players to plug spots who don't have medallions. But check this out: for that we have Kelly, Waterman, Allen, Hough, Reid- all first class players. And three players we've recruited specifically for needs- Witherden, Hunt, Flynn.
It's a starting 18 3 years into a supposed "rebuild" entirely lacks what you'd consider a youth development pick.
Make the bench up of Ginbey, B.Williams, Petruccelli, Rotham and wonder of wonders, the side Simmo's been angling for is a best 22 that might only contain Ginbey in a developing role.
Thats a more mature outfit than the 18 premiership side that contained Venables.
I'll fight anyone who says we should not be aiming to win the big dance in 25 with the side above, which I think is the current Simmo credits tm first picked side. If we are not trying to win it all, then what the hell are we doing?
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Sheed had better be the sub. With the intention he doesn't come on until half way in the last unless we have an injury. But it should probably be Maric or we're way too tall.
Gaff is not a sub, he'll be shit unless he gets a full game. Even then there's no guarantees but it lets him play to his strengths.
Flynn for Williams is fine, have to see if the Flynn/BWill experiment works at some stage and if it helps the mids.
From last week our 6 lowest rated players were: Maric, Hough, Rotham, Dewar, Sheed, Hunt.
3 have been dropped and Sheed should have been dropped, Maric and Sheed are both a big chance to be demoted to sub. Dewar was the sub so he kind of doesn't count.
Perhaps Rotham and Hunt were playing hampered, or the vision showed they weren't working hard enough so they're being "rested".
Looks like a crap team balance all things considered though.
Gaff is not a sub, he'll be shit unless he gets a full game. Even then there's no guarantees but it lets him play to his strengths.
Flynn for Williams is fine, have to see if the Flynn/BWill experiment works at some stage and if it helps the mids.
From last week our 6 lowest rated players were: Maric, Hough, Rotham, Dewar, Sheed, Hunt.
3 have been dropped and Sheed should have been dropped, Maric and Sheed are both a big chance to be demoted to sub. Dewar was the sub so he kind of doesn't count.
Perhaps Rotham and Hunt were playing hampered, or the vision showed they weren't working hard enough so they're being "rested".
Looks like a crap team balance all things considered though.
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Tell me how you really feel.
Devils advocate.
Does giving Sheed another game to see if he can be good Sheed again really matter. Bloke has been out of footy for a year, I guess they need to find out once and for all if he can contribute, I suspect he can't but meh.
Gaffy probably has deserved a shot, his time has passed but good luck to him, I hope he goes alright.
The forecast has changed and the side is not written in stone anyway, there could, and probably will be changes.
Does giving Sheed another game to see if he can be good Sheed again really matter. Bloke has been out of footy for a year, I guess they need to find out once and for all if he can contribute, I suspect he can't but meh.
Gaffy probably has deserved a shot, his time has passed but good luck to him, I hope he goes alright.
The forecast has changed and the side is not written in stone anyway, there could, and probably will be changes.
What is the point of talking rebuild when you play players who's best is long past them, what a ****ing joke.
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Re Flynn coming back after one WAFL game and maybe a bit underdone
He doesn’t have to play full minutes because he’s got Bailey to back him up. They can tag team Marshall, who whilst he’s a very good ruck at 201cm he’s not a monster, and work him over given there’s not much help for him. If the game becomes a slog this could be important
I have no issues with Flynn’s inclusion
He doesn’t have to play full minutes because he’s got Bailey to back him up. They can tag team Marshall, who whilst he’s a very good ruck at 201cm he’s not a monster, and work him over given there’s not much help for him. If the game becomes a slog this could be important
I have no issues with Flynn’s inclusion
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I thought Sheed showed himself the exit door at curtain call last week?
There could be a late change for a Trew or Culley?
Maybe Gaff is the sub and a late out for Sheed (the exit door?) for Trew/Culley?
At least we've picked up a bonus with the weather change, so our tall selection mightn't be so bad...see how that pans out?
Interested to see how Flynn goes..
There could be a late change for a Trew or Culley?
Maybe Gaff is the sub and a late out for Sheed (the exit door?) for Trew/Culley?
At least we've picked up a bonus with the weather change, so our tall selection mightn't be so bad...see how that pans out?
Interested to see how Flynn goes..
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Going backwards at the selection table - don't like Gaff and Sheed on the interchange at all. I know it's going to be wet and soggy, and speed may not be so critical, but Sheed and Gaff are the 2 slowest players in the AFL. Bad move!
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Simmo has a bad loss, the veterans didn’t show up. Solution? Bring back Gaff and drop 2 kids.
This is who Simmo is deep down inside and the cultural change we need will not happen quickly enough as long as he stays in charge
This is who Simmo is deep down inside and the cultural change we need will not happen quickly enough as long as he stays in charge
No idea how any group of people can sit around a table and decide that that is the best possible side we could put out there.
But I suppose we should have been prepared for this when we got this little window into the club’s mindset on where our players are at from the captain:
In their mind, this is someone who found it easy:
Looking forward to hearing Simmo go on about how we’re going to back in our “leaders” after we get spanked at home by Saint ****ing Kilda
But I suppose we should have been prepared for this when we got this little window into the club’s mindset on where our players are at from the captain:
In their mind, this is someone who found it easy:
Looking forward to hearing Simmo go on about how we’re going to back in our “leaders” after we get spanked at home by Saint ****ing Kilda
Gaff isn't replacing Dewar or JWill.
I don't think the team is balanced at all, but Gaff replaced Hunt who is injured. The alternative is Culley or Trew on a wing, setting them up to disappoint supporters and putting them in a role they haven't played in.
Also keep in mind that Luke Edwards will miss from concussion and Brockman isn't available to AFL selection until post bye, Edwards probably gets selected if he wasn't concussed going on past selections.
What a lot of people don't seem to realise is that if Sheed is out we will be sorely lacking pointers.
Without Sheed racking up uncontested points like he does week in, week out, who will step up to the plate?
Ginbey? Wouldn't know a point if it bit him on the bum.
Without Sheed racking up uncontested points like he does week in, week out, who will step up to the plate?
Ginbey? Wouldn't know a point if it bit him on the bum.
Gee today is actually a very melt worthy day. Very tall side against a smaller side but In condition that will likely be raining too. Membrey and owens do play a bit taller but surely hough and witho can handle them.
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Sigh.
Glad to see Flynn in, albeit it’s quite possible he gets subbed as he might not be ready for a full game. I guess we will see Bailey play the FWD/RUC role, jury is out…
Gaff is a disappointment. I would’ve much preferred to see Culley get a guernsey. Perhaps they want Gaff to replace Hunt, and it’s some reward for being a good soldier all season, but it feels like it’s a pretty unbalanced 22.
Guess we’ll see how Saturday goes…
Glad to see Flynn in, albeit it’s quite possible he gets subbed as he might not be ready for a full game. I guess we will see Bailey play the FWD/RUC role, jury is out…
Gaff is a disappointment. I would’ve much preferred to see Culley get a guernsey. Perhaps they want Gaff to replace Hunt, and it’s some reward for being a good soldier all season, but it feels like it’s a pretty unbalanced 22.
Guess we’ll see how Saturday goes…
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Don’t like it at all. Weak opposition, perfect game to have a look at Hall and Culley if the ball is likely to be slippery, instead we pick 3 key backs, 4 tall forwards and a ruck as well as playing Sheed and Gaff in the same side.
Seems Trew has met the same fate that has struck other aspiring fringe players before him.
We do have a tendency to let guys rot in the WAFL for the benefit of underperforming seniors regardless of form.
A rebuilding side should be throwing mud at the wall to see what sticks. Gaff and Sheed in the same side is a conservative approach to selecting a side.
Going back to the well regardless of how empty it was on the last occasion.
We do have a tendency to let guys rot in the WAFL for the benefit of underperforming seniors regardless of form.
A rebuilding side should be throwing mud at the wall to see what sticks. Gaff and Sheed in the same side is a conservative approach to selecting a side.
Going back to the well regardless of how empty it was on the last occasion.
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Yes it matters because it send this message to the young kids:
"If you are a past best 22 player, who is grossly out of form and touch, no matter how mediocre ( polite version ) your last game was, you still get afforded another start. "
He was elevated to the seniors after piss poor WAFL form ... WHY ...... because he has credits in the bank.
It sends a memo to Trew and the like ..... doesn't matter how well you played in the WAFL, unless you are a senior player on the list its matters not, because seniority preferential treatment, even if form has vanished, rules in the selection process.
I can live with the Gaff selection because what it does do, is at the very least, it reward WAFL form and production.
Now thats something to motivate the youth to strive for and ramp up their own WAFL performances.
It's the direct opposite of the Sheed inclusion.
The best form of pressure within any Football Club, is selection pressure from everyone on the list regardless of age , experience or name.
If you play well you get selected.
If you don't reward form, then selection integrity starts to fracture and once that happens the Coach starts losing the playing group.
FFS, I had hoped that Simpson would have learnt from past favouritism mistakes , but alas it appears not.
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