Preview Round 19, 2022: West Coast v St.Kilda - Optus Stadium, Sunday 24th July, 4:40PM AEST

Who Wins?

  • Eagles

    Votes: 29 59.2%
  • Saints

    Votes: 20 40.8%

  • Total voters
    49

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Highly unlikely Hannebery plays - we lose in Perth watched eagles today they’ll give themselves a huge chance against a demoralised mob from Melbourne
I watched this game as well you can't come to that conclusion, on that performance if we are to turn it around and get a win it will start with the Eagles, at this stage they are a shadow of there previous self.

Would need Natnui to dominate & Shue,Kelly & Gaff to get 30+ & either Kennedy or Darling to kick 5 a lot of if's.
 
Hanners gotta play. Ratts reckons his training form been really good before Covid and was awesome for sandy. What are we waiting for? Wait one more week the season might be over. Same with bytel I reckon. I like Byrnes but couldn’t hit a hand ball to save himself on the weekend
 

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I would honestly drop the entire midfield to the VFL, though that obviously wont happen


Crouch and Hill were down but Steele was good. Sinclair seemed to get runs on the ball and apart from turn overs off HB he was incredible. Gresh was in between. Ross was missing. If you dropped that lot you'd at least properly tank. Bytel and Ping Hannerbury probably aren't getting the job done. Byrnes probably already on the chopping block, kids don't seem to get a run of games under Ratts.

Ratts will be trying to go all out for a win here. He's under the most pressure he's been under at the Saints. Lose this and people will be sharpening the knives. I think he'll be putting together the best side he can.
 
Highly unlikely Hannebery plays - we lose in Perth watched eagles today they’ll give themselves a huge chance against a demoralised mob from Melbourne
They just got killed by Hawthorn who are very average.
 
Hanners gotta play. Ratts reckons his training form been really good before Covid and was awesome for sandy. What are we waiting for? Wait one more week the season might be over. Same with bytel I reckon. I like Byrnes but couldn’t hit a hand ball to save himself on the weekend
If Ross and Clark are back surely we don’t need bytel. Midfield is slow enough. I wouldn’t play hanners either. Big ground. Long flight over there and what does he bring? Experience yes for sure but he is slow and that’s our problem in the middle.
 
Theyre $2.71 on sportsbet, seems juicy if you wanna hedge your heartbreak with some cash.

I think because its over there and theyre not half as bad as they were its a 50/50 game. I feel like ive said this 400 times this year but our forward line should be able to smash their backline... reality is weve pretty much never done it against oppo with no good match ups for King, Higgins, Butler, Membrey because our midfield butchers the footy.

Kennedy and or Darling along with Ryan might bury us too.

Id tip them but its a tight one.
 
Crouch and Hill were down but Steele was good. Sinclair seemed to get runs on the ball and apart from turn overs off HB he was incredible. Gresh was in between. Ross was missing. If you dropped that lot you'd at least properly tank. Bytel and Ping Hannerbury probably aren't getting the job done. Byrnes probably already on the chopping block, kids don't seem to get a run of games under Ratts.

Ratts will be trying to go all out for a win here. He's under the most pressure he's been under at the Saints. Lose this and people will be sharpening the knives. I think he'll be putting together the best side he can.
You will do anything to knock ratts. Kids have bigger runs than they should. Windhanger could have been dropped about 5 times but was played. Owens got injured and had to be dropped after round one. Ratts actually put to much faith in him. Sharman got 3 games when 2 was probably enough. Are you actually saying Byrnes should play with Ross and Clark coming back? Byrnes was only In because Ross was out. And he didn’t do anything to suggest he had to stay. Knock ratts if you want but try and pick the right target. And I’d certainly hope he is putting in the best side he can. Surely that’s ok by you gringo.
 
Theyre $2.71 on sportsbet, seems juicy if you wanna hedge your heartbreak with some cash.

I think because its over there and theyre not half as bad as they were its a 50/50 game. I feel like ive said this 400 times this year but our forward line should be able to smash their backline... reality is weve pretty much never done it against oppo with no good match ups for King, Higgins, Butler, Membrey because our midfield butchers the footy.

Kennedy and or Darling along with Ryan might bury us too.

Id tip them but its a tight one.
It’s a great bet with zero consequences. I’m happy to lose $100 for a win and if we lose I get an excellent massage Sunday night.
 
You will do anything to knock ratts. Kids have bigger runs than they should. Windhanger could have been dropped about 5 times but was played. Owens got injured and had to be dropped after round one. Ratts actually put to much faith in him. Sharman got 3 games when 2 was probably enough. Are you actually saying Byrnes should play with Ross and Clark coming back? Byrnes was only In because Ross was out. And he didn’t do anything to suggest he had to stay. Knock ratts if you want but try and pick the right target. And I’d certainly hope he is putting in the best side he can. Surely that’s ok by you gringo.
I’m a fan of Ryan Byrne but geez he turn the footy over a lot on Friday. He need to improve that or his tenure at afl level
Will be short lived
 
I would almost give Connolly a recall for this match & use either him or Sincs as that outside midfielder with DASH that Jones should have been giving us.
Jones probably deserves to be dropped but we probably need to see his response after the bake he copped. If there isn’t any then he may have played his last game for the club and probably fair enough to.
 

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Jones probably deserves to be dropped but we probably need to see his response after the bake he copped. If there isn’t any then he may have played his last game for the club and probably fair enough to.
Unfortunately Jones must have been told he plays like Joel Selwood going into tackles head first, as soon as he realises he’s not, he might start skirting the packs with the ball & give us more chance.
Who said AFL is played between the ears?
 
You will do anything to knock ratts. Kids have bigger runs than they should. Windhanger could have been dropped about 5 times but was played. Owens got injured and had to be dropped after round one. Ratts actually put to much faith in him. Sharman got 3 games when 2 was probably enough. Are you actually saying Byrnes should play with Ross and Clark coming back? Byrnes was only In because Ross was out. And he didn’t do anything to suggest he had to stay. Knock ratts if you want but try and pick the right target. And I’d certainly hope he is putting in the best side he can. Surely that’s ok by you gringo.


What like I said in the last line? You would do anything to start an argument too. He's got nowhere to hide so if he doesn't put up his best side he's already conceded the season which is unlikely because he's under pressure.

Other coaches identify kids and keep playing them through form. Unfortunately because we were struggling to hold on to our place in finals we have played mostly what we already have so haven't developed much outside of that.

Our second and third year players have hardly got a game or been played in spots that are unlikely to win them more chances.
 
Jones probably deserves to be dropped but we probably need to see his response after the bake he copped. If there isn’t any then he may have played his last game for the club and probably fair enough to.
Jones can respond at sandringham and Byrnes can join him. Play both Bytel and hanas. Bytel should stay in the side for the rest of the year. If Clarke and Ross are fit then piss off Higgins/Hill/Butler and there's plenty of room. Wholesale changes are needed immediately.
 
Jones can respond at sandringham and Byrnes can join him. Play both Bytel and hanas. Bytel should stay in the side for the rest of the year. If Clarke and Ross are fit then piss off Higgins/Hill/Butler and there's plenty of room. Wholesale changes are needed immediately.
So you are calling for 4 inside/slower mids to eventually come in at the expense of a bunch of forwards and a half back? Won't happen and shouldn't happen.
 
SLe Steele
Crouch and Hill were down but Steele was good. Sinclair seemed to get runs on the ball and apart from turn overs off HB he was incredible. Gresh was in between. Ross was missing. If you dropped that lot you'd at least properly tank. Bytel and Ping Hannerbury probably aren't getting the job done. Byrnes probably already on the chopping block, kids don't seem to get a run of games under Ratts.

Ratts will be trying to go all out for a win here. He's under the most pressure he's been under at the Saints. Lose this and people will be sharpening the knives. I think he'll be putting together the best side he can.
Steele has been down since returning from the shoulder injury. Tackles lots but his performance as Captain has been very poor. Lacking energy, is not getting vocal enough or showing encouragement, and worse of all is getting sooky when things aren't going well.
 
What like I said in the last line? You would do anything to start an argument too. He's got nowhere to hide so if he doesn't put up his best side he's already conceded the season which is unlikely because he's under pressure.

Other coaches identify kids and keep playing them through form. Unfortunately because we were struggling to hold on to our place in finals we have played mostly what we already have so haven't developed much outside of that.

Our second and third year players have hardly got a game or been played in spots that are unlikely to win them more chances.
Have you considered that the 2nd and 3rd year players haven't played much because they are all extremely average with huge flaws rather than it being due to Ratts not wanting to play kids.

How is playing NWM and Windy the majority of the season - with a small cameo from Owens before injury hit - not playing the kids or any different than what every other club does?
 
I would honestly drop the entire midfield to the VFL, though that obviously wont happen

SLe Steele

Steele has been down since returning from the shoulder injury. Tackles lots but his performance as Captain has been very poor. Lacking energy, is not getting vocal enough or showing encouragement, and worse of all is getting sooky when things aren't going well.
That is a major worry. Looking at our list, I can only see two players who are showing real leadership- leading by example, busting their guts..Wilke and Campbell
 
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What like I said in the last line? You would do anything to start an argument too. He's got nowhere to hide so if he doesn't put up his best side he's already conceded the season which is unlikely because he's under pressure.

Other coaches identify kids and keep playing them through form. Unfortunately because we were struggling to hold on to our place in finals we have played mostly what we already have so haven't developed much outside of that.

Our second and third year players have hardly got a game or been played in spots that are unlikely to win them more chances.
It wasn’t an argument by me. Whether it’s a review of the previous one or talking about the next one you repeat the same thing over and over again. Yep I’m sure the sack ratts people like it but even they must be bored of it. Ratts has given plenty of chances to young players this year and I have no idea what you mean they haven’t played in spots where they are unlikely to get more chances. Just out of interest who hasn’t played that has actually deserved to play and who has played in spots they shouldn’t. All I see from you lately is just words to knock ratts and no real back up. Are you saying windhanger owens Milera and even Sharman haven’t been given enough time to probe their worth? I’d totally disagree if you think that. Bytel injured. Connelly hasn’t been showing enough. Byrnes in and out for sure but for a reason. It’s because he is slow and there are better options. I’m struggling to think of one unlucky player in the seconds.
 
Jones can respond at sandringham and Byrnes can join him. Play both Bytel and hanas. Bytel should stay in the side for the rest of the year. If Clarke and Ross are fit then piss off Higgins/Hill/Butler and there's plenty of room. Wholesale changes are needed immediately.
The problem with our midfield is they get plenty of the ball so stats look ok but it’s to same same. Bytel in and jones out makes it even more same same. That type of midfield isn’t going to get the job done. And surely hanners isn’t ready after one game. Isn’t this the guy 95% keep bagging and now suddenly he is in. I’d hope jones gets one more chance. The ground should suit him so there is no excuse at all. The rest of what you said was obviously a joke. Made me laugh. Well done.
 
The problem with our midfield is they get plenty of the ball so stats look ok but it’s to same same. Bytel in and jones out makes it even more same same. That type of midfield isn’t going to get the job done. And surely hanners isn’t ready after one game. Isn’t this the guy 95% keep bagging and now suddenly he is in. I’d hope jones gets one more chance. The ground should suit him so there is no excuse at all. The rest of what you said was obviously a joke. Made me laugh. Well done.
No more chances. He's been poor for a while.
Nobody ever bagged Hanas for being bad at footy.
Bytel should play for the rest of the year. Let's see what he's got.
Ross back in brings some speed.
I wasn't suggesting all of Higgins/Butler/Hill be dropped just that there's no shortage of candidates. Byrnes has to go. There needs so be big changes made because week after week these softys let us down. How many chances does this team get? No more I say.
 
This is a line in the sand moment for the club and particularly the coach. Now we have committed to Ratts for two years, we can only then play those that are committed to the coach and game plan.

Thorough review of the last two weeks. Those not living up to standard and expectations that imposed internally should not be selected - irrespective of name or status. You are either on board or not.

Ignore results, they are irrelevant at this point.
 
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