Preview Round 20, 2023: Hawthorn v St.Kilda - Marvel Stadium, Sunday 30th July, 1:10PM AEST

[BrutThough]

I had no idea Sicily is only 188cm. Same as membrey. Why can’t we move membrey back and have our own version?

Because Wilkie, at 191cm, already plays the role as gun defender who is undersized.

 

[botts]

Because Wilkie, at 191cm, already plays the role as gun defender who is undersized.

He doesn’t play the sag off intercept defender roll. He is accountable as well. I want a pure intercept player

 

[George]

My son bought some vintage ones of those on eBay so he could look more floggish. They look more subtle in pics.

Your son has taste. Must've skipped a generation xoxo

 

[gringo2011]

Your son has taste. Must've skipped a generation xoxo

They were shit and only lasted one match. Technology has come a long way.

 

[BrutThough]

He doesn’t play the sag off intercept defender roll. He is accountable as well. I want a pure intercept player

That's were someone like Battle needs to step up or something a Coffield could do if he can break into the side. Wilkie's intercepting was also fantastic to start the season. If we can get a combination of defenders doing it, it would make us more dangerous overall.

 

[bird_man]

The thing about them not playing the Marshall and Campbell combination (effectively two rucks) is where does that leave Max Heath?

They've continually demonstrated that they believe Marshall is the main ruck and that's it, so unless Max Heath becomes some sort of gun fwd/ruck how does he suddenly become a better option than Hayes, Cordy or Campbell?

Heath is being developed in both the forward and ruck roles which makes him more likely to be able to play with Marshall if he is good enough.

Who knows if he ever becomes a better proposition than any of them, but he was a mid season pick, I doubt we are pinning all our hopes on him.

 

[saintbill]

Not much pressure on this one IMO. The entire footy world thinks we completely suck.

Got a strange feeling we actually show up for this one. Saints by 3 goals.

 

[saintbill]

I had no idea Sicily is only 188cm. Same as membrey. Why can’t we move membrey back and have our own version?

I reckon Sharman or Coff could potentially play this role pretty well moving forward.

I like the thinking but Members takes too long to make decisions around the ground. I reckon he has to be kept close to goal.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Because Wilkie, at 191cm, already plays the role as gun defender who is undersized.

Sicily is 8th in the AFL for intercept marks ( average 3.4 ).
Wilkie gets the most for StKilda ( average 2.8) but Battle isn't far behind him.

 

[Dard Ball Get]

He doesn’t play the sag off intercept defender roll. He is accountable as well. I want a pure intercept player

Membrey is slow of body and mind, and needs to use two feet to jump. Not a scratch on Sicily’s behind.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

That's were someone like Battle needs to step up or something a Coffield could do if he can break into the side. Wilkie's intercepting was also fantastic to start the season. If we can get a combination of defenders doing it, it would make us more dangerous overall.

Wilkie and Battle already combine and average together to get around as many as the Hawks.
Howard takes as many as the Hawks second best , Frost.
I agree that its suited to Coffield as well.

Highmore does it very well, but then.........

 

[EddieMurphy]

Sicily is 8th in the AFL for intercept marks ( average 3.4 ).
Wilkie gets the most for StKilda ( average 2.8) but Battle isn't far behind him.

Interesting, wonder what Sicilys average is without the game against us, prob similar to Wilks.

 

[stfan]

Membrey ...... and needs to use two feet to jump.

No not at all when he runs and jumps.

It is just that he really has mastered that vertical jump (leap) without a run up and in that situation it often gives him a real advantage as opponents cannot match him if they also have to vertical leap, and cannot run in and jump to spoil.

If you are just leaping straight up you will go higher than if you attempt it off only one leg.

PS, Fully agree on his lack of smarts, and slow decision making though.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Wow
Going back a bit now
Blue and white romes
Or
Black and white officials

Blue and white. Weighed 62 kilos. Divorced my parents. Took them off to run.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

He doesn’t play the sag off intercept defender roll. He is accountable as well. I want a pure intercept player

Me too. If decent mids are gone then Connor O’Sullivan could be the go

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Interesting, wonder what Sicilys average is without the game against us, prob similar to Wilks.

Almost negative.

Single handedly won me SC that week … in a half.

 

[Sully111]

Reckon the players looked confused. Not playing with much swagger as they're too in their own heads. It was good to see Hammer take it on and kick that goal the way he did.

Our forward line structure needs fixing. It's true the entries have been bad but I'm not seeing players getting separation and leading at the ball.

Obviously our skills and decision making remain our biggest problem.

If we don't get a bit of mojo back this week we'll get flogged.

 

[stfan]

Last time we played the Hawks the Reeves/Meeks duo slaughtered Roma in the tapouts.

The tall Reeves being out really levels the ruck playing field and moreso as Marshall has been playing much better football of late.

What we very much need is the form that Steele rolled out in the last quarter against North to be rolled out for a whole game.

An improved ruck and midfield effectiveness compared to last time will go a long way to us being a chance this week.

That, and as others have already commented for us to not just feed Sicily the ball the whole game again

 

[The Punter]

Tim Membrey

28

Tim Membrey

Age

30

Ht

188cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.2

3star

K

8.1

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

5.8

5star

T

1.5

3star

G

1.8

5star

D

9.4

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.3

2star

G

1.5

5star

D

9.6

3star

K

4.8

2star

HB

4.8

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.4

4star

G

0.6

3star

will play for Sandy this week, per the coach.

 

[BrutThough]

Tim Membrey will play for Sandy this week, per the coach.

Priming him to kick 4 against Carlton next week.

 

[Joffaboy]

Hawks picked us apart and got us on the outside time and time again last time we played.
Sicily also destroyed us.

On SM-S908E using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[stavro#4]

Hawks picked us apart and got us on the outside time and time again last time we played.
Sicily also destroyed us.

On SM-S908E using BigFooty.com mobile app

And he will again if we don’t improve our structure and final ball

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Interesting, wonder what Sicilys average is without the game against us, prob similar to Wilks.

Total intercept marks = 14 x 3.4 = 48 ( must be another decimal at play somewhere ).
Intercept marks against StKilda = 8
Average without StKilda = 40/13 = 3.1

Wilkie's average = 2.8

But what's an intercept mark, isn't it when the ball is heading towards a Saint, and Sicily gets wetween it and marks it before it gets to the team mate.

What is it when StKilda spot Sicily standing on his own and land it on his chest?

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Last time we played the Hawks the Reeves/Meeks duo slaughtered Roma in the tapouts.

The tall Reeves being out really levels the ruck playing field and moreso as Marshall has been playing much better football of late.

What we very much need is the form that Steele rolled out in the last quarter against North to be rolled out for a whole game.

An improved ruck and midfield effectiveness compared to last time will go a long way to us being a chance this week.

That, and as others have already commented for us to not just feed Sicily the ball the whole game again

Despite that Saints won centre clearances 12 to 8. So ruck not the reason we lost.
But Reeves had 11 hitouts to advantage, vs Marshall's 4 , and Meek's 2 so it helps that he's out.

Our forward line was dis functional, their forward line separated our defenders.

Against Richmond last week they won the centre clearances and that gave them more inside 50s.
Sicily's intercept possessions were very high again ( 15).
Worpel , Newcomb and Nash were the centre clearance guys, Prestia and Hopper the Tigers best.

Against us for centre clearances. ( Remembering they were dominating the hitouts which Meek shouldn't be able to do ).
Crouch 4.
Newcomb 3.
Gresham 3.
Worpel 2.
Sinclair 2.
Marshall 2
Day 2
Sicily 1
Byrnes 1

I think Owens should line up there. He can go forward after he wins the clearance.
( then run like crap so he can kick the goal ).

 

[MickG88]

I get that we aren't playing great but last time we played Hawks it wasn't until half way through the last before they started to ramp up and we lost the game in the last 5 minutes. We fix that and we win.