Preview Round 7, 2020: Adelaide v St.Kilda - Adelaide Oval, Monday 20th July, 7:40PM AEST *BYRNES DEBUT*

[Hubnester]

3 weeks for Long what a joke

 

[Ducky Tie]

I thought he pretty good on Saturday. So did rats.

He's certainly capable in midfield but his trajectory as a forward was looking All Australian level. It's a tough balancing act for them.

 

[Joffaboy]

3 weeks for Long what a joke

About right

 

[Hubnester]

About right

No they should suspend the other bloke for getting in his way.

What's the general consensus for who comes in to replace him? So hard to know who's in form and who's the fittest at the moment. Guess it's just wait and see.

 

[jwikked]

Would like to see the club appeal that decision, 3 weeks excessive for what it was.

 

[pebblesofsand]

3 weeks for Long what a joke

More surprising that we didn't even contest it - pleaded guilty and accepted 3 weeks.

The 22-year-old pleaded guilty to his rough conduct charge and agreed to a three-week penalty – via his representative Jack Rush – with the AFL's legal counsel Jeff Gleeson prior to Tuesday night's hearing.

Terrible decision by the club.

 

[gringo2011]

How specifically was Ratten deplorable?
Fremantle upped the ante after 1/4 time and players failed to adjust
We got beaten in the uncontested part of the game and they had 6 more marks inside 50
Suggests to me that there was a lack of pressure on the Fremantle ball carriers and the ball was coming into our backline with heat.
Not much a coach can do in a game to arrest a slide when the players are down on effort and leadership.
Hope he makes a bit of statement this week at the selection table

Carlisle forward was a pretty good indication of struggling to come up with a change of tack.

 

[plugger66]

3 weeks for Long what a joke

Seems about right. He should have gone for the ball. Once he didn’t the result was going to decide the penalty. He concussed the guy so that is 3 weeks minimum. He pleaded guilty. He also wanted the rest to be 3 weeks so the club realised the situation

 

[Veer Right]

3 weeks for Long what a joke

Though he'd get 4, so good result.

 

[Ducky Tie]

More surprising that we didn't even contest it - pleaded guilty and accepted 3 weeks.

The 22-year-old pleaded guilty to his rough conduct charge and agreed to a three-week penalty – via his representative Jack Rush – with the AFL's legal counsel Jeff Gleeson prior to Tuesday night's hearing.

Terrible decision by the club.

Yeah we've hung him out to dry a bit here.

 

[Diehard Saint]

Would like to see the club appeal that decision, 3 weeks excessive for what it was.

Is there any responsibility on Darcy as well for the way he went for the ball?
Leigh Matthews said on 3aw that it was the “least worst” of the incidents involving Dylan Shiel and, I think Gary Rowan, who got off all his incidents.

 

[plugger66]

Yeah we've hung him out to dry a bit here.

Not really. It was 3 or more. They couldn’t argue any of the gradings.

 

[plugger66]

Is there any responsibility on Darcy as well for the way he went for the ball?
Leigh Matthews said on 3aw that it was the “least worst” of the incidents involving Dylan Shiel and, I think Gary Rowan, who got off all his incidents.

Result. Simple.

 

[Diehard Saint]

Result. Simple.

Yep.
I always thought it was supposed to be the action, not the consequence.

I do remember one year one of our players was on the wrong end of a sling tackle, but obviously had a very hard head, jumped up and carried on ( think it may have been Gears.)
Pretty sure the same weekend or a week later an almost identical tackle caused injury and the offending player got weeks.

I can’t remember when, or all the details but someone else on here might. I do remember them comparing both tackles and the different results.

 

[Pardon me]

Expected but still disappointing to hear.
Going to be interesting to see who steps up in the coming weeks.
If it isn’t already with last week and the north loss our season is right on a knife edge - either we dig deep and fight our way out of this to consistency or accept the mediocrity and use all the excuses.
Over to you Saints

 

[Grav]

More surprising that we didn't even contest it - pleaded guilty and accepted 3 weeks.

The 22-year-old pleaded guilty to his rough conduct charge and agreed to a three-week penalty – via his representative Jack Rush – with the AFL's legal counsel Jeff Gleeson prior to Tuesday night's hearing.

Terrible decision by the club.

Yeah we've hung him out to dry a bit here.

Don’t think the club could help him out at all, careless high tackle causing concussion,
minimum 3 weeks.

*** I know this chart has been posted before by buggeredifiknow ,but here it is again for those that missed it

 

[Saintbloke]

Not really. It was 3 or more. They couldn’t argue any of the gradings.

When we watched it, everyone said- "he's gone" and there was clearly no getting off.

 

[Diehard Saint]

Ratts on 3aw now. Not staying in Adelaide after the Crows game.
Travelling back for the Port game on Saturday morning together with the Bombers. Then stay over Saturday night till after the Bombers Sunday game and come back together.

 

[plugger66]

Yep.
I always thought it was supposed to be the action, not the consequence.

I do remember one year one of our players was on the wrong end of a sling tackle, but obviously had a very hard head, jumped up and carried on ( think it may have been Gears.)
Pretty sure the same weekend or a week later an almost identical tackle caused injury and the offending player got weeks.

I can’t remember when, or all the details but someone else on here might. I do remember them comparing both tackles and the different results.

Well if you punch someone off the ground the result certainly matters. I think it should.

 

[Tigerssaints]

More surprising that we didn't even contest it - pleaded guilty and accepted 3 weeks.

The 22-year-old pleaded guilty to his rough conduct charge and agreed to a three-week penalty – via his representative Jack Rush – with the AFL's legal counsel Jeff Gleeson prior to Tuesday night's hearing.

Terrible decision by the club.

Same guys that stitched up Nathan Brown

 

[st_trav_ofWA]

How specifically was Ratten deplorable?
Fremantle upped the ante after 1/4 time and players failed to adjust
We got beaten in the uncontested part of the game and they had 6 more marks inside 50
Suggests to me that there was a lack of pressure on the Fremantle ball carriers and the ball was coming into our backline with heat.
Not much a coach can do in a game to arrest a slide when the players are down on effort and leadership.
Hope he makes a bit of statement this week at the selection table

now ask youself if a richo coached team served that up what would you say

 

[Saint Christopher]

That's a myth, he was never that good a kick. He could occasionally keep one low and flat but he was just less awful that Gilbert and Geary along side him.

Agreed, he was a an apple turnover. Plus he is a bit of a sniper, not a hard man like others believe.

 

[pebblesofsand]

Not really. It was 3 or more. They couldn’t argue any of the gradings.

Of course they can argue the gradings otherwise there wouldn't be a tribunal - there would be just Michael Christian with his black cap.

 

[Saint12]

Don’t think the club could help him out at all, careless high tackle causing concussion,
minimum 3 weeks.

*** I know this chart has been posted before by buggeredifiknow ,but here it is again for those that missed it
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Was it intentional though?

 

[BigPowerForward]

Carlisle forward was a pretty good indication of struggling to come up with a change of tack.

I remember Clarkson saying once that making a move during a game that completely changed the momentum of the game was not a common occurence. It is largely up to the players to change the momentum. We gave up a large lead and IMO the players need to bear most of the responsibility.