Preview Round 7, 2020: Adelaide v St.Kilda - Adelaide Oval, Monday 20th July, 7:40PM AEST *BYRNES DEBUT*

[Joffaboy]

Gee whiz, de goey would be handy instead of a retired paddy right now.

Good with the bad.

Hunter, Long and Battle over O'Meara

 

[Ducky Tie]

Good with the bad.

Hunter, Long and Battle over O'Meara

It's tough to balance out the good with the bad when there has been so much bad over the past fifteen years. Our drafting has been consistently poor for a long time. There are some signs that it has gotten better over the past few years with King, Clark, Gresham, Marshall, Battle etc but it's still not proven.

 

[kernelT]

We're splitting hairs with Lonie and Kent. Neither are great, both are capable of having good days. Kent's kicked 4 in 3 since returning. Lonie has kicked 3 in those games. Lonie wins a touch more footy. Kent has more pace, Lonie is less prone to shocking clangers.

If there was only room for one, I'd pick Lonie, mainly due to his age. At 23 he could still become a more consistent small forward.

I think Lonie is playing a more team focused game than he has in the past, not trying to kick 4-5 goals each game just to hold his spot, He’s not trying to jag bananas from the stand... a few more goals would be handy but butler has been delivering the goals for most of the smalls.
Hard to say what the coaches are asking of each player, I imagine pressure would be at the top of the lists for all forwards.
Our efficiency inside 50 has been excellent generally, so that side seems to be working... defensive running and pressure from our mids seems like an issue in patches.

 

[Southseas]

Lonie has on occasion looked dangerous and lowers his eyes i50. Kent seems to just bob up and either jag a goal or fumble it.

 

[XhazzafootyX]

Ryan Brynes is set to make his debut this Monday.

 

[kernelT]

Unfortunately for Kent, the odd dropped basic mark at critical times really doesn’t do much for his overall reputation with fans despite doing good work throughout games. Feels like he’s always going to be an “almost” player for mine, hopefully I’m wrong.

 

[bird_man]

As J-Webs advocate I feel it would be extremely poor form not to bring him in for Longs role.

Out: Ross, Long, Marsh, Kent
In: Webster, Hanners, Byrnes, Hind.

The only thing is we already had 2 extra defenders which may cost him.

Not sure we'll continue to play Geary forward

 

[The Punter]

Confirmed.

 

[bird_man]

It's tough to balance out the good with the bad when there has been so much bad over the past fifteen years. Our drafting has been consistently poor for a long time. There are some signs that it has gotten better over the past few years with King, Clark, Gresham, Marshall, Battle etc but it's still not proven.

It was poor up until 4 years ago and since then has been quite good.

Battle, Long, Coffield, Clark, Paton, King, Wilkie and now Byrnes.

That's 7-8 guys in our best 22 looking like having a big future.

 

[AirWinmar]

Both Lonie and Kent have not been very consistent this season, last season too. Wouldn't mind shaking up those spots a bit to try a different combination. They could bring in Sincs, Parker, Byrnes, Bytel or Langlands. Most of those guys are probably more adaptable to rotating to a wing or mid as well, which would help with rotations.

 

[Ducky Tie]

Confirmed.

Great news. Is a very good effort to go from a third round pick to a debut by round seven. Hope he gets some midfield minutes.

 

[bird_man]

Ive got a good feeling about Byrnes.

I reckon he might end up being one of those gun mids taken late in the draft that recruiters just looked too hard at what they can't do instead of what they can.

Let's hope so anyway!

 

[Ekomaira]

Byrnesy!

 

[Ducky Tie]

It was poor up until 4 years ago and since then has been quite good.

Battle, Long, Coffield, Clark, Paton, King, Wilkie and now Byrnes.

That's 7-8 guys in our best 22 looking like having a big future.

Yeah as I said, there are signs that we've gotten it on track but it's not proven. I'm happy with how all those players are going but it's still their potential that excites us, rather than their proven performance (aside from Wilkie who is consistently very good).

My point was in response to conversation about McCartin so it's a bigger spectrum that the last three or four years. I understand why people get frustrated at the club's drafting over the years. I'm happy with how it is tracking at the moment though so I don't mean to sound pessimistic about the current batch of young players.

 

[Saint12]

On a cold wet night in 2013 saints smashed by cats and Steven collected 36 possessions. I was there unfortunately. Just one example. Correct and warranted.

Fair enough cant believe that guy couldnt remember that game

 

[Saint12]

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Player Statistics Comparison​
	Jack Lonie​ Name​ Dean Kent​ St Kilda Saints​ Team​ St Kilda Saints​ Forward​ Position​ Forward​ 69​ Career Games​ 80​ Dandenong Stingrays​ Origin​ Perth​ August 13, 1996​ Date of Birth​ February 24, 1994​ 23yr 11mth​ Age​ 26yr 4mth​ 175cm​ Height​ 180cm​ 70kg​ Weight​ 85kg​ 2014 National Draft​ Last Drafted In​ 2012 National Draft​ Round 3, Pick #41​ Last Draft Position​ Round 3, Pick #48​ St Kilda Saints​ Last Drafted By​ Melbourne Demons​ 2020​ Stats for Season​ 2020​ 6​ Games​ 4​ 8.2​ Kicks​ 7.5​ 3.0​ Handballs​ 3.0​ 11.2​ Disposals​ 10.5​ 3.8​ Marks​ 4.0​ 0.7​ Goals​ 1.0​ 0.7​ Behinds​ 0.8​ 2.3​ Tackles​ 2.5​ 0​ Hitouts​ 0​ 2.2​ Inside 50s​ 1.8​ 0.3​ Goal Assists​ 0.5​ 0.8​ Frees For​ 0.8​ 0.7​ Frees Against​ 0.5​ 3.3​ Contested Possessions​ 4.2​ 7.7​ Uncontested Possessions​ 6.2​ 6.2​ Effective Disposals​ 6.8​ 55.4%​ Disposal Efficiency %​ 64.8%​ 1.8​ Clangers​ 3.0​ 0.2​ Contested Marks​ 0.2​ 0.7​ Marks Inside 50​ 1.2​ 0.5​ Clearances​ 0.2​ 0.5​ Rebound 50s​ 0.5​ 1.0​ One Percenters​ 0.5​ 0.2​ Bounces​ 0​ 84.0​ Time On Ground %​ 79.8​ 0​ Centre Clearances​ 0​ 0.5​ Stoppage Clearances​ 0.2​ 3.7​ Score Involvements​ 5.5​ 158.3​ Metres Gained​ 177.2​ 2.0​ Turnovers​ 3.0​ 1.5​ Intercepts​ 1.2​ 1.8​ Tackles Inside 50​ 2.0​ $501,000​ AFL Fantasy Price​ $491,000​ 54.8​ AFL Fantasy Score​ 56.5​ $338,700​ Supercoach Price​ $354,500​ 61.3​ Supercoach Score​ 70.2​

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My God Lonies even worse than i thought.
Should walk into selection and insist on being dropped...the decent thing to do.

 

[Ducky Tie]

Byrnes having a Worpel like impact would really set us up. It's our main issue. Midfield guns. If he can be that player in midfield, we will be covered in most areas.

 

[plugger66]

My God Lonies even worse than i thought.
Should walk into selection and insist on being dropped...the decent thing to do.

Kent got dropped and lonie didn’t. That suggests the coaches trust lonie more. And I think they know more than you and me.

 

[#gosaintas]

Kent got dropped and lonie didn’t. That suggests the coaches trust lonie more. And I think they know more than you and me.

It does suggest that but they've both been dropped in the last 12 months. Neither would be in the first 20 picked which leaves them both vulnerable. To me Kent is better. Lonie is too small, slow and is a poor kick for goal. Kent is a better size, quicker but he has concrete hands. Maybe drop both and play Sinclair and Parker instead.

 

[plugger66]

It does suggest that but they've both been dropped in the last 12 months. Neither would be in the first 20 picked which leaves them both vulnerable. To me Kent is better. Lonie is too small, slow and is a poor kick for goal. Kent is a better size, quicker but he has concrete hands. Maybe drop both and play Sinclair and Parker instead.

Parker is in terrible form but we don’t see Him so magically someone think he is better. Sinclair isn’t a real forward. And I’m unsure lonie has been dropped in the last one and half seasons and Kent has only been dropped once. That suggests the coaches think they are clearly better than the other options.

 

[plugger66]

The clear 3 best players from that draft are all either father son or academy players.

Who are they? Are we talking about petracca draft?

 

[Impatient Saint]

Unfortunately for Kent, the odd dropped basic mark at critical times really doesn’t do much for his overall reputation with fans despite doing good work throughout games. Feels like he’s always going to be an “almost” player for mine, hopefully I’m wrong.

He has never looked fit to me - be interested to see his skin folds...?

 

[BrutThough]

Who are they? Are we talking about petracca draft?

Harris Andrews, Darcy Moore, Issac Heeney.

 

[plugger66]

Harris Andrews, Darcy Moore, Issac Heeney.

Degoey not ahead of any of them? I’d have him one. Love the way he plays. Star.

 

[lewdogs]

Byrnes having a Worpel like impact would really set us up. It's our main issue. Midfield guns. If he can be that player in midfield, we will be covered in most areas.

Surely we are due for one.