Preview Round 7, 2024: Port Adelaide v St.Kilda - Adelaide Oval, Friday 26 April, 7.40pm AEST

[Hubnester]

Game Day - Round 7, 2024: Port Adelaide v St.Kilda - Adelaide Oval, Friday 26 April, 7.40pm AEST

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[Jade Buddha]

I think Sincs has to go back to his old role off hb.
Not sure where that leaves Bonner but right now Sincs MIA.

 

[BrutThough]

The sides in the 8 are playing well enough to hold but outside the 8 you've got Collingwood, Brisbane, Gold Coast all pushing up from underneath. I reckon you could lock Geelong, Carlton and GWS into the top 8 already. Melbourne look good, Sydney, Port very likely.

Leaves Essendon, Dogs, Freo, GC, Collingwood, Brions and us playing for the last couple of spots. We look around the level of Richmond, West Coast and Adelaide at the moment. North and Hawks should finish in the last 2 spots. Injury might send the Tigers bottom 3 too.

I think we likely finish bottom 6 anyway. Playing guys like Bonner and underdone Butler are only going to hold a kid out that at least develops.

The same was probably said last year at this point before we ended with 2 preliminary finalists who had 4 wins each at the mid point of the season. 17 rounds left, long way to go.

One week ago we were on the right track despite the injury issues after at least giving ourselves the chance to win every game. Now it's pity party time where fans now compete on who can have the most miserable outlook on the season and project the worst outcome possible.

Maybe we improve, maybe we dont. But we should give our players the chance to respond to the criticism and bad performance like we always expect our upcoming opponent too.

 

[Jade Buddha]

Wilkie Howard Stocker
Sincs Battle NWM
Hill Steele Wilson
Owens King Pou
Sharman Members Higgo

Marshall Windy Garcia
In: Bonner Hammer Dow Collard

More forward options than usual.

 

[SteeleSaints]

I dont know if Dixon or Finlayson will be back for Port and Cordy hasnt done anything wrong, but I think we need to find a way to get Howard back into the side.

Team vs Port

Stocker Howard Wilkie
Sinclair Battle Naz
Byrnes Steele Hill
Owens Caminiti Membrey
Higgins King Garcia

Marshall, Windhager, Ross

Wilson, Bonner, Hayes, Dow
sub Jones

Outs: Phillipou, Sharman, Butler
Ins: King, Hayes & Dow

Ross to continue his tagging roles on one of the Port mids (good luck). Am hoping we can put in a competitive effort, but I wouldnt be surprised to see a one sided game.

People wanting to get games into Lance Collard cant have watched his VFL games. The kid has an inate goal sense there is no doubt, he is a classy finisher but IMO he is not ready for AFL games. He is paper thin and as a result is a little timid, consequently his defensive efforts require a lot of work. I dont know if we should be handing him games on the back of what he has shown in the VFL just yet.

I think we will be a different side when we start getting our senior players back and in form - Webster, Crouch, Wood and Henry are all citical players to a side that doesnt have huge depth.

 

[Jade Buddha]

I dont know if Dixon or Finlayson will be back for Port and Cordy hasnt done anything wrong, but I think we need to find a way to get Howard back into the side.

Team vs Port

Stocker Howard Wilkie
Sinclair Battle Naz
Byrnes Steele Hill
Owens Caminiti Membrey
Higgins King Garcia

Marshall, Windhager, Ross

Wilson, Bonner, Hayes, Dow
sub Jones

Outs: Phillipou, Sharman, Butler
Ins: King, Hayes & Dow

Ross to continue his tagging roles on one of the Port mids (good luck). Am hoping we can put in a competitive effort, but I wouldnt be surprised to see a one sided game.

People wanting to get games into Lance Collard cant have watched his VFL games. The kid has an inate goal sense there is no doubt, he is a classy finisher but IMO he is not ready for AFL games. He is paper thin and as a result is a little timid, consequently his defensive efforts require a lot of work. I dont know if we should be handing him games on the back of what he has shown in the VFL just yet.

I think we will be a different side when we start getting our senior players back and in form - Webster, Crouch, Wood and Henry are all citical players to a side that doesnt have huge depth.

Nice team but I’ve seen enough of Byrnes. Hayes could be a handy inclusion. If he’s in then Pou is out and I’d like to see him on his home deck in front of family.

 

[SteeleSaints]

Nice team but I’ve seen enough of Byrnes. Hayes could be a handy inclusion. If he’s in then Pou is out and I’d like to see him on his home deck in front of family.

Its was a choice between either Owens or Pou out for me.

 

[Jade Buddha]

Its was a choice between either Owens or Pou out for me.

Pou the most likely out. Owens hasn’t been good but not Pou bad.

 

[Brian Oblivion]

Pou the most likely out. Owens hasn’t been good but not Pou bad.

Some people have compared Pou to BJ's early days and I think it's a fair comparison - it also raises the question - what position or role does he end up with ? Fwd/Mid ? Mid ? Utility ? I don't know.

 

[SaintWWodonga]

I think we MUST play Dow. Midfeild is flat, we must try something different.

 

[Desperate saint]

Don't think we've been even close to good in any game this year. We've got away with two wins more than anything. Doubt we've even played one good quarter. We seem to rely on stifling opposition and then playing 10 minutes of attacking footy.

If we are going to play finals we are going to have to completely change tack. The game plan is awful and laborious. Not sure it will hold up against the best sides. Pies and Richmond were both rubbish when we played them.

yep and we lot 3 games by a total of 13 points without playing well

 

[MrFoster]

I think we MUST play Dow. Midfeild is flat, we must try something different.

Would also try Stocker there, our problem is getting the ball first cleanly, he had 3 clearances against dogs when tried there.

 

[Desperate saint]

Some people have compared Pou to BJ's early days and I think it's a fair comparison - it also raises the question - what position or role does he end up with ? Fwd/Mid ? Mid ? Utility ? I don't know.

what worries me with Phillipou is his decision making slow and does short handballs and foot passes to players under pressure-ps not alone in this area-very little flair in hs game

 

[Armitage2Riewoldt]

They say a week is a long time in footy so a month is....a longer time.

Autopsy - Round 2, 2024: St.Kilda v Collingwood *SPUD'S GAME* *ROSS 200TH* *BYRNES 50TH*

It's a massacre at the 'G 😎

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But it's nuts how positive we were just 30 days ago. We need Crouch, Henry, Dow, Wood back in the side but I suppose I'll give these guys a few more chances.... (I mean what else is there to do)

 

[Brian Oblivion]

what worries me with Phillipou is his decision making slow and does short handballs and foot passes to players under pressure-ps not alone in this area-very little flair in hs game

I think that's also speaks to how the team is travelling atm - he seemed to find himself in space a bit more last season and
showed he had a few tricks in his kit bag.

 

[Yawkey way]

Some people have compared Pou to BJ's early days and I think it's a fair comparison - it also raises the question - what position or role does he end up with ? Fwd/Mid ? Mid ? Utility ? I don't know.

It’s actually a very good comparison imo I think pou is a true utility, I don’t see him as a full time mid.

 

[gringo2011]

It’s actually a very good comparison imo I think pou is a true utility, I don’t see him as a full time mid.

Think he plays as a running half forward/ mid longer term. Probably just runs through rather than full time though. He's excellent overhead for his size.

 

[Brian Oblivion]

Think he plays as a running half forward/ mid longer term. Probably just runs through rather than full time though. He's excellent overhead for his size.

He's a nice kick as well.

 

[St Kilda Death]

Absolutely annihilated in the midfield last week.

I was surprised how bad it went.
Maybe I shouldn’t have been.

We got smashed all last year.
When we lost we pointed to the midfield.
When we won, half the time we were still smashed in the midfield but held up in the arcs.

That midfield was(by CBA)
1.Steele
2.crouch (out injured this year)
3. Ross
4. Clark. (Out injured this year)
5. Gresh (nicked off last year)
6. Sincs

We got Dow who is a very good centre clearance player (Ave 2.5 last year)
and many would argue he was supposed to push to #3.

We got Henry as an attacking winger to compliment wood.

Now starting without both first choice wings.
Lost our #2 and possibly #3 mids.

Relying on Windhager a kid and Garcia literally his 2nd game as starting mids now. Just thrown to the wolves.

Banger said on 3aw pregame last week that Owens enjoys playing forward the most and sees himself as a forward but also enjoys being thrown around the ground given assignments.
He said Owens and Phillipou at the moment both struggle getting lost in the heavy traffic of the centre square.
Banger knows a thing or 2 about playing in the guts btw haha

 

[g_TRAIN]

Absolutely annihilated in the midfield last week.

I was surprised how bad it went.
Maybe I shouldn’t have been.

We got smashed all last year.
When we lost we pointed to the midfield.
When we won, half the time we were still smashed in the midfield but held up in the arcs.

That midfield was(by CBA)
1.Steele
2.crouch (out injured this year)
3. Ross
4. Clark. (Out injured this year)
5. Gresh (nicked off last year)
6. Sincs

We got Dow who is a very good centre clearance player (Ave 2.5 last year)
and many would argue he was supposed to push to #3.

We got Henry as an attacking winger to compliment wood.

Now starting without both first choice wings.
Lost our #2 and possibly #3 mids.

Relying on Windhager a kid and Garcia literally his 2nd game as starting mids now. Just thrown to the wolves.

Banger said on 3aw pregame last week that Owens enjoys playing forward the most and sees himself as a forward but also enjoys being thrown around the ground given assignments.
He said Owens and Phillipou at the moment both struggle getting lost in the heavy traffic of the centre square.
Banger knows a thing or 2 about playing in the guts btw haha

Hopefully more people hear this.

Both of those 2 guys are more natrual forwards than mids, However Pou wants to be a mid and will end up one, Owens wants to be a forward that spends occasional time in the midfield.

Windy was also having issues getting lost in the heavy traffic last year but he appears to be working that out now.

 

[Saintbloke]

Interesting stats around, but pretty telling that any team who can kick 11 goals against us will probably win. We have been able to hold teams to lower scores, but we can't actually kick big enough scores to really go much further.
Two deficiencies from last season have not been addressed and are actually getting worse- not being able to kick enough goals, and poor midfield clearance work. Lyon needs to get on his bike and look at some different strategies.

 

[austinnn]

Not tank. Not continue to rush back GOPs to prop up a lost season. Put time and effort into the kids. I'd rather get 15 games into Schoenmaker than lose by 5 points instead of 25. I reckon our season was close to over when we lost to Essendon. It's an even season and losing to sides around your level is setting yourselves a long way backwards.

I daresay that will be on the cards anyway if we hold this formline at the bye

 

[austinnn]

The Dogs stifled our rebound run and we couldn't move the ball. The Power will have a blueprint now.

We were shit. Half arsed chasing, greasy marking, bombs into forward space. That's why we lost and lost badly, nothing tactical.

 

[gringo2011]

We were s**t. Half arsed chasing, greasy marking, bombs into forward space. That's why we lost and lost badly, nothing tactical.

Bevo praised the selfless defensive work of the guys that shut down our rebound. Said the goal kickers got all the applause but those guys won them the game.

 

[BrutThough]

Would also try Stocker there, our problem is getting the ball first cleanly, he had 3 clearances against dogs when tried there.

Webster returning could open us up to doing that more.

 

[austinnn]

Bevo praised the selfless defensive work of the guys that shut down our rebound. Said the goal kickers got all the applause but those guys won them the game.

We made it very easy for them