Certified Legendary Thread Sack Hinkley 12 - Finals Are Scary

[gbear]

You have most definitely heard correctly

Please let this be true. I need to start a count down and then spend less time in this thread so I can finish my last uni assignment for the year

 

[Marstermind]

Hey, sorry for the intrusion. Let's give the elephant in the room some peanuts - my team sucks. They are hopeless, and the only consistency about them is they always make the wrong decision at every level. So don't shout me down as having a crack at your team who consistently perform at a level I would only dream of. Shit, three weeks with one win, one thrashing, and one badly outclassed loss would be worthy of a lap of honour at Arden St.

But I'm interested in leadership and how organisations manage it, and I find Port Adelaide interesting. You seem caught between the perceived saviour of tarps at Football Park and 20-goal thrashings, and the guy who's ace at finishing H&A season in the top four without winning anything. The guy who's brilliant at building connections with his playing group without ever leading them to greatness. The guy who's a fantastic media performer, without ever connecting to the emotions of the supporter base.

Bottom line, I think your club is scared. Scared to make a genuinely tough decision. Playing and losing 'scary' finals is better than getting <20k crowds to meaningless games or losing multiple 60+ point games in a season. A guaranteed top 6 finish is better than a possible bottom 6 one. Ken is a willing prisoner to the 2011-12 seasons as he was the solutions to them. The Port board seem afraid to make a call that may revisit those days, but may open the door to better days.

Literally no coach has ever gone 12 consecutive seasons with as little success as Hinkley. Not saying that to be provocative, it's just a fact. Hafey, Kennedy, Barassi, Parkin, Blight and Pagan never had a 12 year stretch at the same club. Jeans didn't at Hawthorn but did at St.Kilda where he won a premiership. Malthouse didn't at West Coast, but got exactly 12 at Collingwood with a premiership. Hardwick had 14 years at Richmond but with 3 flags. A thirteenth season for Hinkley would be unprecedented.

Maybe the mature conversation is to allow Ken to explore the Eagles. Thank you, let's shake hands, you led us out of some dark days but we're happy those days are well gone. You can be better with a new challenge, but we back ourselves to be better with a new horizon. But maybe the problem is Ken doesn't want that and is happy being 5th every year. I suppose you guys have a tough decision.

OK. That's me for now. You don't have to ask me what you know is true. I'll retreat to my Jack Darling

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Jack Darling

Age

32

Ht

191cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.1

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

4.2

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

3.0

5star

G

1.9

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

4.3

2star

HB

3.7

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

2.4

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

14.6

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.0

5star

M

6.0

5star

T

4.0

5star

G

1.4

5star

Fan Club and hope to maybe win 4 games next year.

 

[blackdiamond]

You have most definitely heard correctly

Chewy, with what Tom Morris is reporting, do you think it might be a case of Ken saving face by resigning rather than being sacked?


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[John the Butcher]

You have most definitely heard correctly

Is it too early for...?

 

[KrispyKremeMullanikka]

You have most definitely heard correctly

So when can we buy the champas to celebrate, Chewy lad?

 

[Lightning_Rod]

You have most definitely heard correctly

Do not tease us like that.

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[Duck Farmer]

Chewy, with what Tom Morris is reporting, do you think it might be a case of Ken saving face by resigning rather than being sacked?


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He's not resigning if it costs him his payout. If he goes, it will be a "mutual decision".

 

[longdonkey]

You have most definitely heard correctly

I may have more info tomorrow afternoon too. But we'll see maybe I'll have to shout a good bottle to loosen lips LOL.

 

[Launchpad McQuack]

Chewy, with what Tom Morris is reporting, do you think it might be a case of Ken saving face by resigning rather than being sacked?


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Whatever garners the best financial return. He will have his cabal run a campaign of misinformation, disinformation and malinfornation to minimise the reputational damage.

 

[gbear]

So when can we buy the champas to celebrate, Chewy lad?

I am planning on buying a bottle of Moët to celebrate Ken’s sacking.

 

[blackdiamond]

He's not resigning if it costs him his payout. If he goes, it will be a "mutual decision".

No doubt but there will be the narrative to make him look like the good bloke, don’t really care what way it happens - just needs to happen.


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[JimmyBC]

The same Graham Cornes that said there was no reason on paper a Port Adelaide team with champions on every line should've won the 1990 GF..

 

[jdeezy]

Hey, sorry for the intrusion. Let's give the elephant in the room some peanuts - my team sucks. They are hopeless, and the only consistency about them is they always make the wrong decision at every level. So don't shout me down as having a crack at your team who consistently perform at a level I would only dream of. Shit, three weeks with one win, one thrashing, and one badly outclassed loss would be worthy of a lap of honour at Arden St.

But I'm interested in leadership and how organisations manage it, and I find Port Adelaide interesting. You seem caught between the perceived saviour of tarps at Football Park and 20-goal thrashings, and the guy who's ace at finishing H&A season in the top four without winning anything. The guy who's brilliant at building connections with his playing group without ever leading them to greatness. The guy who's a fantastic media performer, without ever connecting to the emotions of the supporter base.

Bottom line, I think your club is scared. Scared to make a genuinely tough decision. Playing and losing 'scary' finals is better than getting <20k crowds to meaningless games or losing multiple 60+ point games in a season. A guaranteed top 6 finish is better than a possible bottom 6 one. Ken is a willing prisoner to the 2011-12 seasons as he was the solutions to them. The Port board seem afraid to make a call that may revisit those days, but may open the door to better days.

Literally no coach has ever gone 12 consecutive seasons with as little success as Hinkley. Not saying that to be provocative, it's just a fact. Hafey, Kennedy, Barassi, Parkin, Blight and Pagan never had a 12 year stretch at the same club. Jeans didn't at Hawthorn but did at St.Kilda where he won a premiership. Malthouse didn't at West Coast, but got exactly 12 at Collingwood with a premiership. Hardwick had 14 years at Richmond but with 3 flags. A thirteenth season for Hinkley would be unprecedented.

Maybe the mature conversation is to allow Ken to explore the Eagles. Thank you, let's shake hands, you led us out of some dark days but we're happy those days are well gone. You can be better with a new challenge, but we back ourselves to be better with a new horizon. But maybe the problem is Ken doesn't want that and is happy being 5th every year. I suppose you guys have a tough decision.

OK. That's me for now. You don't have to ask me what you know is true. I'll retreat to my Jack Darling Fan Club and hope to maybe win 4 games next year.

This is bang on for what the club thinks I reckon. We are pissweak and a club full of people who view success as "not finishing bottom". But even if we did finish bottom they'd move the goalposts anyway so nobody was viewed as failing. It's a long way from the club of old.

 

[jdeezy]

You have most definitely heard correctly

If all of your Intel is true and we're not allowed to announce it this week, then what are the chances the "more likely than not" changes as the noise softens as the media moves on to the grand final. This is what worries me.

 

[StrappingTape]

It's not just us.

What's your thoughts now since he failed as predicted yet again? Seen the light?

 

[Needs Gravy]

I am planning on buying a bottle of Moët to celebrate Ken’s sacking.

I’ll buy a membership for the first time since 2017.

 

[glitch01]

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Graham Cornes is an old campaigner.

Let’s not be ageist here.
I think we can all agree that Cornes is a campaigner…..as is his son!!


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[b0ydman Jr]

You have most definitely heard correctly

Oh my god its happening, stay calm people

Also, I wonder at the chances of Ken taking the WCE job / potential Brisbane job

 

[b0ydman Jr]

Chewy, with what Tom Morris is reporting, do you think it might be a case of Ken saving face by resigning rather than being sacked?


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What is tom morris reporting?

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

This is bang on for what the club thinks I reckon. We are pissweak and a club full of people who view success as "not finishing bottom". But even if we did finish bottom they'd move the goalposts anyway so nobody was viewed as failing. It's a lois ng way from the club of old.

Assuming Ken goes (hopefully) surely Kochie and several of his (Hinkley) backers on the board should go as well.

An broom needs to be swept at your club starting with the board/administration level

In an ideal world the Members/Grassroots supporters who bleed for the club and spend thousands to PAFC should have a significant say as to who runs your club.

I was there the night at Mooney Valley Racecourse in 2002 when the Carlton members rose up and voted John Elliott/Wes Lofts and their board of crooks/incompetents out of office

Granted things have not gotten that much better for Carlton since, but it's always been a firm passion of mine that the most important component of any footy club arr the supporters/members and they deserve to have their say as to how their club is operated and who runs it.

Many Victorian club supporters don't understand how the SANFL and AFL handicap both SA clubs as to who runs their club, in recent memory Hawthorn members voted to boot out Kennett and his board, and now they are annoyingly seemingly back in flag contention for a while.

 

[KrispyKremeMullanikka]

I am planning on buying a bottle of Moët to celebrate Ken’s sacking.

YEAH BBY!!!!!!! WOOHOO!!!!!

 

[Chewy316]

Chewy, with what Tom Morris is reporting, do you think it might be a case of Ken saving face by resigning rather than being sacked?


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Well that would certainly be one way to avoid getting the sack.

Is it too early for...?

Definitely too early for that. But it's headed in that direction.

So when can we buy the champas to celebrate, Chewy lad?

I would suggest this saga will be over within the next Portnight, most likely sooner.

Whatever gathers the best financial return. He will have his cabal run a campaign of misinformation, disinformation and malinfornation to minimise the reputational damage.

This is something the Club are very well aware of, which is why the execution of such a decision is complex and requires a well thought out plan of attack.

I am planning on buying a bottle of Moët to celebrate Ken’s sacking.

I will have to seriously consider opening up a bottle of 2008 Krug (wine is a very expensive hobby of mine) but will also be up for a beer down at the Precinct to celebrate with you all.

Oh my god its happening, stay calm people

Also, I wonder at the chances of Ken taking the WCE job / potential Brisbane job

Brisbane job isn't opening. West Coast still an option though I tend to doubt it at this point. Not sure Ken actually has the energy to do such a big rebuild at this point.

 

[longdonkey]

Oh my god its happening, stay calm people

Also, I wonder at the chances of Ken taking the WCE job / potential Brisbane job

Not going to happen it, all 100% BS of the highest order.

There's a comment that could backfire spectacularly.

 

[KrispyKremeMullanikka]

I have to get my uncle to source me the best Italian red on the market through our suppliers

 

[b0ydman Jr]

With our finals over, Is it time for the "in chewy we trust" thread?