Certified Legendary Thread Sack Hinkley 13 - Another Crack At This

[TeeKray]

No, the AFL decided that the players and coaches would get paid as normal. The administrators were fair game as they are easily replaced. The six month payout clause was for a worst case scenario but Hinkley saw it as a risk if he was sacked for being a failure, nothing to do with COVID. Hinkley was simply looking after Hinkley as he always doing.

Every single point you have made here is complete nonsense except the last one which literally amounts to Hinkley being a human being who looks after himself like all human beings do.

 

[VineValerian]

Hawks sending coaches abroad after finals run​

Several Hawks coaches are heading, or have returned, abroad for professional development opportunities.

Ken's probably packed the MG up with his cooler full of diet soft drink and bogan shorts and thongs, ready for his well deserved break.

Our development in house at Port ensures world's best practice, and obviates the need to spend money on overseas development programs.

 

[El_Scorcho]

Every single point you have made here is complete nonsense except the last one which literally amounts to Hinkley being a human being who looks after himself like all human beings do.

This decision is more on the club and they are the ones we should be angry at, but I can't help but look at this in the context of Hinkley's long career of me-first behaviour.

Doesn't take responsibility for our performances, throws the players under the bus.
Has set a gameplan that caps out at making finals and is fine with it because it keeps getting him new contracts.
Kicks the accountability can down the road at every turn, shifts the goal posts and hides when he can't deflect.
Stood out of football for a season to force Fitzroy to trade him to Geelong.
Has admitted that footy isn't that big of a deal for him these days but is still employed as an AFL head coach a decade later.
Doesn't seek to improve or challenge himself, surrounds himself with yes men and forces out people who will challenge him.
Contacts and admonishes people in the media who are critical of him.
Leveraged the Gold Coast offer for a big new contract at Port.
Leveraged the COVID rules to lock himself in for longer.
Utilises his friends in the media to disparage the fans and the players to protect him at all costs.
Flat out does not accept any criticism internally or externally.

This wasn't Hinkley looking after himself with the uncertainty of COVID, this was Hinkley continuing to feather his own nest because that's ultimately all he cares about. He doesn't care about the club and he doesn't care about winning a flag.

 

[Fizzler]

The great financial panther, David Koch, couldn’t afford to sack a coach a decade after he became Chairman.

Which one of us was Heinrich Himmler in a past life?

I’m deadset convinced it’s my fault and that the footy gods are trying to **** me sideways for switching from Collingwood to Port Adelaide in 2015. There can’t be any other reason why my favourite player won a flag last year for Collingwood of all teams.
Naturally the right thing to do is to start a petition for member control of the club because if it’s my fault we’re in this mess, I’ll do what I can to get us out of it.
(PS: sign the petition at change.org/takebackpafc)

 

[Fizzler]

This decision is more on the club and they are the ones we should be angry at, but I can't help but look at this in the context of Hinkley's long career of me-first behaviour.

Doesn't take responsibility for our performances, throws the players under the bus.
Has set a gameplan that caps out at making finals and is fine with it because it keeps getting him new contracts.
Kicks the accountability can down the road at every turn, shifts the goal posts and hides when he can't deflect.
Stood out of football for a season to force Fitzroy to trade him to Geelong.
Has admitted that footy isn't that big of a deal for him these days but is still employed as an AFL head coach a decade later.
Doesn't seek to improve or challenge himself, surrounds himself with yes men and forces out people who will challenge him.
Contacts and admonishes people in the media who are critical of him.
Leveraged the Gold Coast offer for a big new contract at Port.
Leveraged the COVID rules to lock himself in for longer.
Utilises his friends in the media to disparage the fans and the players to protect him at all costs.
Flat out does not accept any criticism internally or externally.

This wasn't Hinkley looking after himself with the uncertainty of COVID, this was Hinkley continuing to feather his own nest because that's ultimately all he cares about. He doesn't care about the club and he doesn't care about winning a flag.

I’d also add in the narrative of being the last man standing when he got the job, as it just feels like “I’m the best youse true believers are gonna get, I was here when the going was tough, I’m such a mastermind” even if it’s not explicitly said.
And I’m inclined to believe he repeated the Gold Coast thing again with West Coast because why else would a coach so hated by a segment of his fanbase who is also still contracted for another season be discussed in vacant coach talks? Dunno if it was planted by his management or his media mates but definitely seems like a method of acting like there’s demand so that we’d think if we sacked him there’s another club ready to swoop since he’s good enough to coach.

 

[Bump Bailey]

Our development in house at Port ensures world's best practice, and obviates the need to spend money on overseas development programs.

Why promise the world when you can deliver an atlas.

 

[PowerLil]

This decision is more on the club and they are the ones we should be angry at, but I can't help but look at this in the context of Hinkley's long career of me-first behaviour.

Doesn't take responsibility for our performances, throws the players under the bus.
Has set a gameplan that caps out at making finals and is fine with it because it keeps getting him new contracts.
Kicks the accountability can down the road at every turn, shifts the goal posts and hides when he can't deflect.
Stood out of football for a season to force Fitzroy to trade him to Geelong.
Has admitted that footy isn't that big of a deal for him these days but is still employed as an AFL head coach a decade later.
Doesn't seek to improve or challenge himself, surrounds himself with yes men and forces out people who will challenge him.
Contacts and admonishes people in the media who are critical of him.
Leveraged the Gold Coast offer for a big new contract at Port.
Leveraged the COVID rules to lock himself in for longer.
Utilises his friends in the media to disparage the fans and the players to protect him at all costs.
Flat out does not accept any criticism internally or externally.

This wasn't Hinkley looking after himself with the uncertainty of COVID, this was Hinkley continuing to feather his own nest because that's ultimately all he cares about. He doesn't care about the club and he doesn't care about winning a flag.

In addition, was worried that his poor sportsmanship and childish behaviour after the Hawthorn semi would be his legacy. What legacy Ken? You actually haven't won or achieved anything. Deluded.

 

[JimmyBC]

So why didn't we land any free agents if Kenny is such a great salesman?

 

[PowerLil]

So why didn't we land any free agents if Kenny is such a great salesman?

 

[Launchpad McQuack]

So why didn't we land any free agents if Kenny is such a great salesman?

Why is Houston keen to go home when Daddy is already at his current club?

 

[dirty2]

So why didn't we land any free agents if Kenny is such a great salesman?

Port has turned into a car yard in Davo Park...

And Hinkley is the feral car sales man...

"Yous should buy this beauty only 504000k's on the clock... Don't mind the needles in the ash tray.. I'll get my mate koch to clean it up for ya... Hey Donna is my ****ing instant coffee and toasted sandwich ready yet ya bitch?"

 

[Lefti93]

Holy ****.. we suck!

 

[Steve Dore]

So why didn't we land any free agents if Kenny is such a great salesman?

The club tells us that players want to come to Port Adelaide to be coached by the incredible Kenny™ and there will be a mass exodus of players when/if Kenny™ ever leaves Port.

The reality is that despite all of the players this trade period supposedly wanting to come here only Lukosius who wants to play with good mate Rozee is coming and Houston, a player who is contracted for years, wants to leave.

 

[philreich]

The great financial panther, David Koch, couldn’t afford to sack a coach a decade after he became Chairman.

Which one of us was Heinrich Himmler in a past life?

I'd argue that if we'd sacked Hinkley after the 2017 EF debacle, we'd be way in front of where we are today, because our coach wouldn't have been him.

 

[rogerjames]

Rozee on his respect for Ken Hinkley

“Yeah, enormous respect and admiration for Kenny. He's done so much for our football club. And, yeah, it's hard to put into words, I guess, without seeing from the inside what he does on a day to day. He does so much work, he's first into the club every morning and the last person to leave. He wants more than anyone, to bring success to our club, and that's why we love him so much. To see that he's emotionally driven to bring us success, and that probably came out the last couple of weeks, but I've got no doubt that our group's behind him, and he's doing something right to get us into – I’ve played in three prelims now – and yeah, certainly we will hopefully put ourselves in this position again to do it for him, I guess a little bit, and also for some of our older guys have been around for a while.

What pathetic weak words from a Port Adelaide Captain, he should hand in the captaincy and give it to JHF, at least he didn't go missing when it counted, hey Connor.

Yeh. After the AGM I thought his appointment would be OK even though I thought Butters was a way better on field leader. But I was wrong. This guy oozes soft. He has no idea what it takes to lead a team to a flag. Typical Port appointment.

 

[philreich]

Unfortunately they'll counter with "due to our decison-making, we've consistently exceeded the pass mark of making finals"!



Until they admit that making GFs consistently, well at least once or twice in a decade, is the pass mark, they'll make us out to be delusional.

I would then remind them that St. Kilda won their first 20 games in 2009, but still didn't win the flag, and they're now entering year 59 since their last premiership. Do we want to become another St. Kilda?

 

[TeeKray]

I would then remind them that St. Kilda won their first 20 games in 2009, but still didn't win the flag, and they're now entering year 59 since their last premiership. Do we want to become another St. Kilda?

St Kilda, Port, Freo and the SUNS are basically the same club just in different states.

 

[rogerjames]

The messaging at the club in the Koch era has been absolutely horrendous. Worse than simply bad. They fundamentally don't understand their supporter base or how to communicate with them.

It's been a problem for a decade. We say the clearcut wrong thing all the time. How have we not hired someone who gets it?

They don't care. It's all PR to suit THEIR agenda which is to keep Ken. They believe the anti-Ken supporters are a minority & they have written them off.

 

[JimmyBC]

Crows bloke on the wireless talking about their board being paralyzed jeezus ours must be mummified then lol

 

[Doctor Feel]

Crows bloke on the wireless talking about their board being paralyzed jeezus ours must be mummified then lol

I wish. Ours are out there breaking shit like peak nine inch nails.

 

[JimmyBC]

I wish. Ours are out there breaking shit like peak nine inch nails.

Inertia to change is the point.

 

[tribey]

Crows bloke on the wireless talking about their board being paralyzed jeezus ours must be mummified then lol

It’s genuinely wild how they perceive their situation compared to ours, whenever sob stories are exchanged.

Disparaging Nicks like we disparage Hinkley, when the Crows have nailed barely 3 first round picks in the past 15 years (either at the draft or via trade).

There’s a reason Ben Keays is currently their equal best player, and it’s not because Nicks was mismanaging the likes of Ned McHenry, Chayce Jones and Matt Crouch.

 

[philreich]

It’s genuinely wild how they perceive their situation compared to ours, whenever sob stories are exchanged.

Disparaging Nicks like we disparage Hinkley, when the Crows have nailed barely 3 first round picks in the past 15 years (either at the draft or via trade).

There’s a reason Ben Keays is currently their equal best player, and it’s not because Nicks was mismanaging the likes of Ned McHenry, Chayce Jones and Matt Crouch.

It's also interesting that no Crows players (unless I've missed it) have pledged their undying love in the media to Matthew Nicks. It's either because he's a total scumbag and they hate him, or they see it as a pointless exercise.

 

[tribey]

It's also interesting that no Crows players (unless I've missed it) have pledged their undying love in the media to Matthew Nicks. It's either because he's a total scumbag and they hate him, or they see it as a pointless exercise.

Haha, yes.

It’s a phenomenon that should be studied after Hinkley’s skeleton is removed from the Adelaide Oval bench.

 

[JimmyBC]

Fages sorta gets the same love talk in the media from his players to a degree. Brisbane winning the flag wasn't good for us as umpteen people here mentioned before it happened that our crew of losers at HQ would use it as some sort of ridiculous example. Bloke has sailed past every marker on the Fages trajectory years ago without the glory it's insulting to anyone with a half functioning cerebral cortex.