Opinion Sack Hinkley 5 - Lower The Blinds

[Doctor Feel]

Agree with that mate. I would imagine best case for is something like 3-8. At which point, some sort of deal will be done with KH to walk away. Prob is KH is very ego driven and thinks he can turn this all around....

lol i saw that typo before the edit, should have left it.

 

[rumoursofwinter]

Agree with that mate. I would imagine best case for is something like 3-8. At which point, some sort of deal will be done with KH to walk away. Prob is KG is very ego driven and thinks he can turn this all around....

Im just confused by how he thinks he will turn it around. Everything seems to be about belief in the players and working hardery. Its about whether Hinkley is a shit bloke or not. There is no emphasis on the team not being well driled and playing in a poor system. Carlton literally had more options than port every time they had the ball in the first half. Hinkley earns a lot of money. His job should be high stress. He hasn't been held accountable for not driving standards, losing good personnel, having poor systems and not being well drilled. I literally have no idea how he thinks he earns the level if income he receives and thinks there should be no scrutiny. I suppose he goes when there is no mathematical chance of making the finals. Dude has no sense of dignity.

 

[Arsene Wenger]

lol i saw that typo before the edit, should have left it.

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haha me too. It applies to KG too doesnt it?

 

[yepits2020]

“Port Adelaide’s faith in coach Ken Hinkley isn’t wavering despite the club’s worst start to an AFL season, chief executive Matthew Richardson

Matthew Richardson

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14.0

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10.9

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3.1

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15.0

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says.” (From In Daily)

 

[edgie]

Does anyone believe that if Choco didn't get us to a grand final in 2004, he would have been supported to keep on for another five seasons?

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[glitch01]

“Port Adelaide’s faith in coach Ken Hinkley isn’t wavering despite the club’s worst start to an AFL season, chief executive Matthew Richardson says.” (From In Daily)

I'm hoping that is Richo's version of "he has the full support of the board and club" which is normally a precursor to a sacking.........

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

“Port Adelaide’s faith in coach Ken Hinkley isn’t wavering despite the club’s worst start to an AFL season, chief executive Matthew Richardson says.” (From In Daily)

They have to say stuff like that, I would assume that it was a direct question and what else is he gunna say.

More than likely the club will keep Kenny until late in the year. I seriously doubt we will sack him any time soon

 

[PatientMental]

You know what.

If only he was 5-0 and convincingly winning games of football.

But he's not, because his gameplan is shit, the application of the gameplan is shit, the players cant work out what to do so they're all playing like shit, and the staff around him are shit.

and because of that he's gone from 2nd to 18th in 2 games, and is 18th after 5.

But the media is scared to call him out for all the poo in the bedsheets.

 

[Chewy316]

Does anyone believe that if Choco didn't get us to a grand final in 2004, he would have been supported to keep on for another five seasons?

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Trying to compare Ken to Choco is chalk and cheese though. Choco had the team impeccably well drilled - skills were sublime, and they steamrolled through the competition in 2002 and 2003. The only issue those teams had were between the ears come finals. Wasn't even a "big game" issue either because they won plenty of big games in the regular season, but they couldn't handle finals footy for whatever reason. The team hardened up and in 2004 deservedly won the flag.

Contrast that to Hinkley whose team are arguably a bottom 5 team for skills in the comp, with one of the worst gameplans in the comp, who has inflated their ladder position by beating up on the bottom sides whilst consistently failing against top sides.

The two situations aren't even comparable. Hinkley is so inept at his job right now that you could pick someone off the street and they wouldn't do a worse job.

 

[simba_]

Does anyone believe that if Choco didn't get us to a grand final in 2004, he would have been supported to keep on for another five seasons?

no because the club was ran independently, not 1 of 18 AFL franchises controlled by the leagues commission

 

[Papa G]

They have to say stuff like that, I would assume that it was a direct question and what else is he gunna say.

More than likely the club will keep Kenny until late in the year. I seriously doubt we will sack him any time soon

The question should be, if any journo had any balls, along the lines of "Richo, you are zero and 5, any talk of finals let alone Premierships is fanciful. The supporter base has completely lost faith in the coach and more widely the regime which includes yourself and David Koch. Is waiting to do the inevitable and sack Ken Hinkley at the end of the year, rather than cutting your loses now doing mounting damage to the club? Huge sections of the supporter base are walking away. He is a dead man walking. Why wait? Why?

 

[philreich]

Trying to compare Ken to Choco is chalk and cheese though. Choco had the team impeccably well drilled - skills were sublime, and they steamrolled through the competition in 2002 and 2003. The only issue those teams had were between the ears come finals. Wasn't even a "big game" issue either because they won plenty of big games in the regular season, but they couldn't handle finals footy for whatever reason. The team hardened up and in 2004 deservedly won the flag.

Contrast that to Hinkley whose team are arguably a bottom 5 team for skills in the comp, with one of the worst gameplans in the comp, who has inflated their ladder position by beating up on the bottom sides whilst consistently failing against top sides.

The two situations aren't even comparable. Hinkley is so inept at his job right now that you could pick someone off the street and they wouldn't do a worse job.

That 2004 team had something this team is sadly lacking - toughness. Blokes like Pickett, Wilson, Hardwick, Roger James etc. Maybe that's another Kochism - we shouldn't be tough on the field, because someone might get hurt.

 

[Us against the rest]

Ken has always been the same, doing what he does best and laughing at another Port loss.

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[PA88]

Spot on.

I am not having a crack at anyone around here because we are all singing from the same hymn book and this is all on management and the board, but, the wheels would be spinning. We are an AFL assisted club under the COVID financial model and as such we are beholden to the AFL. In any business, a CEO coming out and lashing the coach achieves nothing but trouble. We all want a scapegoat, and I am the same, but we need to be patient and trust that the change is coming.

There are some very good people on the board and senior management that feel the way we all do. They just need to go through the process and ensure we do it in such a way whereby we minimise the financial hit. Bearing in mind, I believe they would all be well aware of the $$ damage associated with crowds dropping off etc.

I am very very confident KH wont be at the club next year, but i am equally confident he will still be around for the majority of this season......

Given the circumstances, ten years of staying the course without success, it would be usual for there to be a few 'about turns' of support from within the board with some spillage, including the chairman, but that's if all directors were member selected. How it unfolds when most are AFL approved is an unknown.

 

[PowerBaz]

That 2004 team had something this team is sadly lacking - toughness. Blokes like Pickett, Wilson, Hardwick, Roger James etc. Maybe that's another Kochism - we shouldn't be tough on the field, because someone might get hurt.

We do seem to be missing a bit of mongrel, it's a fine line these days but noticed it on Sunday.

 

[jakey]

That 2004 team had something this team is sadly lacking - toughness. Blokes like Pickett, Wilson, Hardwick, Roger James etc. Maybe that's another Kochism - we shouldn't be tough on the field, because someone might get hurt.

We have hard nuts now. The difference is intellect, direction and confidence to execute.

 

[PowerBaz]

The question should be, if any journo had any balls, along the lines of "Richo, you are zero and 5, any talk of finals let alone Premierships is fanciful. The supporter base has completely lost faith in the coach and more widely the regime which includes yourself and David Koch. Is waiting to do the inevitable and sack Ken Hinkley at the end of the year, rather than cutting your loses now doing mounting damage to the club? Huge sections of the supporter base are walking away. He is a dead man walking. Why wait? Why?

I seriously think in 2017 a deal was struck when they lured Kenny to stay (after his handshake deal with GC). My brain imagines Ken saying well if I go to GC i'll be there for 5 years minimum, give me 5 years... and here we are.. (maybe). Perhaps next year will have a clause, but somewhere it feels like some kind of arrangement is in place.

Once we are out of the race this year I expect Ken to walk away - in a nice way, shake hands and out he goes, never to sit foot in Alberton again.

 

[simba_]

"We'd rather keep Ken as coach, because if he's replaced by that nasty Alastair Clarkson, he might yell at us."

haha he would retire faster than you can say Hey Diddle

 

[Andre]

I don’t mind Chad, but if we cannot trust him, we may not have a choice.

Setting aside he's an obvious leak to Kane, he's obviously been promoted above his coaching level. He's a good runner and would be decent enough as Magpies coach (as it's 'Do what the Senior coach and line coaches tells you to do on match day'), but isn't line coach material. No shame on that, many wouldn't be. Just means when we get a new coach he's either demoted or is out the door.

 

[philreich]

We do seem to be missing a bit of mongrel, it's a fine line these days but noticed it on Sunday.

That's why we need to approach Clarkson with an open cheque book - he'd have this team breathing fire within weeks.

 

[Andre]

Why are we always the bad guys for having expectations? This cancer has aggressively attacked the club for over a decade now. Its no wonder we never perform when the chips are down.

We are such a shit club.

David Koch. From little battler club, through 10 year coach, he's successfully gaslighted large parts of the fan base into not only no longer demanding success, but that demanding it is anti-Port. Ken will be gone one day, but how many years (if ever?) will it take to fix Koch's mindset amongst the fanbase?

 

[proman_x]

...and sounding more and more ridiculous. With ramped up, amp'ed up bordering on child tantrum histrionics he comes out with

"10yrs ago the club was a mess". Then this pearler "look give him time to turn it around" seriously you couldn't make this stuff up

no-one would believe you. From where i'm sitting he has turned it around. We're bottom, 0-5 for the first time in our AFL journey

so yeah i'd say he's turned it a full 360 around. A mess in 2012 and a mess now with nothing to show for it.

You say "he deserves respect" I say listen to your idol's own mantra "you get what you deserve." You said yourself in the off season

his pass mark in 2022 is a grand final. I show Hinkley the same respect he's shown the PAFC. All i've got for him now is contempt.

The idea that our expectations are too high is ludicrous because any supporter base with any level of expectation would not be satisfied with what we have dished up since our last premiership.

Let's keep in mind we have an 18 year premiership drought in a league where on average you should win one every 18 years.

Let's keep in mind we have a 15 year grand final drought in a league where on average you should play in one every 9 years.

Our expectations are only high if you think our club is such a piece of shit that we should not expect anything except to exist and that making finals and winning a few games every now and then is overachieving.

What Kornes, the AFL and the general industry expects members and supporters to be these days!

 

[RossFC]

The saviour Ken Hinkley has us in a worse position than 2011/12.

Someone save us from Ken Hinkley.

 

[AFC AFeederClub]

Does anyone believe that if Choco didn't get us to a grand final in 2004, he would have been supported to keep on for another five seasons?

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no way, there was already a huge block of people that wanted him out after 2001-2003 not making the granny, hence we have "Alan Scot you were wrong"

 

[Eddie Woloschek]

Hinkley is so inept at his job right now that you could pick someone off the street and they wouldn't do a worse job.

You mean anyone.