Opinion Sack Hinkley 5 - Lower The Blinds

[Jason K]

My thinking was more along the lines of if any of them get into trouble, you’ve got a syndicate with a bloke who gives out contracts, another bloke who picks the team and rearranges the magnets, and all of them can directly influence outcomes in the sport they’re all employed by.

It’s a doomsday scenario, but one that could easily be avoided by not entertaining such entanglements in the first place.

Yeah I got that, I also think it's very unhealthy for a guy with a gambling addiction in charge of young impressionable guys to be encouraging them to his vice.

 

[Chewy316]

 

[Doctor Feel]

Not sure if our club is a football club or some gentlemans club who go on golfing, fishing and gambling trips.

 

[Launchpad McQuack]

Remember when Hinkley suggested that after starting there were no reasons why we couldn't go 5-0? Bet there would be if he was questioned on why we didn't.

 

[Steve Dore]

Not sure if our club is a football club or some gentlemans club who go on golfing, fishing and gambling trips.

Golfing is a bit highbrow for the Hinkley clan.

 

[Jason K]

If they don't sack him I'm gonna hire the manure truck & do a Richmond on Queen St.

Start a GoFundMe page for this. You will be rich.

 

[robbo1981]

His not going to walk away we might need to get a go fund me going

 

[tribey]

Not sure if our club is a football club or some gentlemans club who go on golfing, fishing and gambling trips.

The more I think about it, the more I’m staggered as to how that greyhound thing came about, and that at a minimum, when player involvement was a possibility, Davies and Hinkley didn’t think to say “absolutely not”.

It brings into question judgement, decision-making and if we’re being honest, intelligence.

 

[Del165198]

10 fücking years.

How common are 10 year coaches (without success) in sport generally? It must be rare.

The idea that you can basically have a players entire career span under one coach, without hearing anything different. If you have an all time great coach that succeeds and wins stuff, then that's great. But imagine having the same loser telling you the same boring shit that doesn't work for ten years.

Ugh. All conventional logic points to change being a good thing every once in a while.

The Hinkley situation defies belief.

 

[JimmyBC]

10 fücking years.

How common are 10 year coaches (without success) in sport generally? It must be rare.

The idea that you can basically have a players entire career span under one coach, without hearing anything different. If you have an all time great coach that succeeds and wins stuff, then that's great. But imagine having the same loser telling you the same boring s**t that doesn't work for ten years.

Ugh. All conventional logic points to change being a good thing every once in a while.

The Hinkley situation defies belief.

I think looking at it they backed in this stability stance at the expense of logic.

Sure stability is great, but as you point out it needs to be warranted.

It's almost like results be damned we are making you a ten year coach regardless.

 

[John the Butcher]

I'm so sick of this.

All I know is at this point it is damaging everyone's attachment to Ports. We have generations of PAFC supporters in our blood, but these frauds are ruining our club. At this stage most people are ready to say bye forever..

 

[MrMeaner]

The more I think about it, the more I’m staggered as to how that greyhound thing came about, and that at a minimum, when player involvement was a possibility, Davies and Hinkley didn’t think to say “absolutely not”.

It brings into question judgement, decision-making and if we’re being honest, intelligence.

For me, this is the thing that completely undermines my (already shaky) confidence in the entire club administration. I consider it a catastrophic governance and ethical failure that someone should have picked up. That not one person seems to have had a problem with it condemns them all.

Apart from the many, serious issues concerning dog racing and the associated gambling, that people in the positions of coach and General Manager have any outside business interests with players is a clear conflict of interest. When making decisions on list management or in contract negotiations or even in picking each week’s team, how can anyone have confidence that those decisions are being made solely in the best interests of the club? It does not matter if outside interests have actually affected those decisions (and, to be clear, there is no evidence that this is the case and I am not suggesting this is the case), the fact that there is anything that might give the appearance that they might be affected is cancerous.

 

[TeeKray]

I know it's been done before but this photo is really shocking. November 2012. Ken Hinkley leads this team into battle in London. Not one of these players remains on the list.

Nearly 10 full years and 10 full seasons later and he's still here - without so much as a GF appearance let alone a flag and with only a dead mediocre 50/50 record of making/missing finals.

Of course, the powers that be would remind us how bad we were in 2012, as though our era of shitness was actually 1870-2012 rather than 2011-2012. A decade later and we're still supposed to bow down and kiss the feet of the Messiah who saved our club by delivering us to the 5th-10th promised land. It's absolutely f****** bonkers.

 

[Us against the rest]

I wonder what our sponsors would think about all this dog racing stuff, from the gambling to the removal of underperforming dog's.
Would the AFL condone this sort of activity by an Afl coach in charge of a team of young men and now also young women.
If Koch is aware of this he should stand down immediately.
This is supposed to be a professional football club, not an avenue for young people to take up gambling on greyhounds, what next, weekly trips to the casino.
Hinkley should be sacked for this behaviour alone, let alone performance.

 

[snozulu]

I think looking at it they backed in this stability stance at the expense of logic.

Sure stability is great, but as you point out it needs to be warranted.

It's almost like results be damned we are making you a ten year coach regardless.

From 2017

Port Adelaide Power v Gold Coast Suns Shanghai: David Koch says Ken Hinkley can be a 10-year coach

Port Adelaide chairman David Koch has revealed the Power are working towards ensuring Ken Hinkley is a 10-year senior coach.

www.theage.com.au

Shanghai: Port Adelaide chairman David Koch has revealed the Power are working towards ensuring Ken Hinkley is a 10-year senior coach.

Koch sparked headlines this year on The Footy Show when he turned the heat on Hinkley, declaring the Power could not afford not to make the finals for a third-straight season. This was interpreted widely as the coach being put on notice despite his contract running until the end of 2018.

While Koch has since said Hinkley's contract "will run the course", the Power supremo last week asked Hinkley what he needed to do to help him remain coach for another five years.

**** these idiots out of our club. I read this old article and it triggered me. Such a delusional vision and basically letting Ken decide his own contract. Spineless club we are. Not the Port i grew up supporting.

 

[Papa G]

Lol i think the Greyhounds are cruel and barbaric/gambling is evil Helen Lovejoy stuff is over the top, but the issue of playing favourites to people with the same interests/business interests is definitely an issue. I have heard as much from a former employee down there that there is certainly a dishlickers clique.

 

[bacharach]

From 2017

Port Adelaide Power v Gold Coast Suns Shanghai: David Koch says Ken Hinkley can be a 10-year coach

Port Adelaide chairman David Koch has revealed the Power are working towards ensuring Ken Hinkley is a 10-year senior coach.

www.theage.com.au

Shanghai: Port Adelaide chairman David Koch has revealed the Power are working towards ensuring Ken Hinkley is a 10-year senior coach.

Koch sparked headlines this year on The Footy Show when he turned the heat on Hinkley, declaring the Power could not afford not to make the finals for a third-straight season. This was interpreted widely as the coach being put on notice despite his contract running until the end of 2018.

While Koch has since said Hinkley's contract "will run the course", the Power supremo last week asked Hinkley what he needed to do to help him remain coach for another five years.

* these idiots out of our club. I read this old article and it triggered me. Such a delusional vision and basically letting Ken decide his own contract. Spineless club we are. Not the Port i grew up supporting.

Reminded that coaches ultimately are judged on wins and losses, Koch replied: "Yeah, but a crucial element of success is that stability and willing to constantly learn."



Turns out 10 years of stability didnt work. How can Koch not feel like a big fat failure.

 

[philreich]

I don't read or listen to anything this bozo says any more. Has he actually ever spoken about tactical acumen at any of these things?

With regards to listening to Ken, I suspect that certain players are in the same boat. I can't wait to see how they respond to a new coach - it's just that the stupid club hierarchy seem intent on continuing with the old failed regime for as long as possible.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

Just ****ing sack him. Let Monty coach today.

 

[philreich]

Hinkley: Our focus remains on what we can control

Port Adelaide wants to remain the wild card in the race to September's top-eight AFL finals. Senior coach Ken Hinkley insists there is only one way to approach the enormous challenge this brings.

www.portadelaidefc.com.au

"We are 7-3 in the past 10 - that says we are capable. We have a game (Saturday night) that we need to stay focused on. And if we do that, we have a chance. Go away from that (narrow) focus - and you are no chance," Hinkley said.

STOP SAYING THIS s**t!!!! IT MEANS NOTHING!!!!!

You can't conveniently chop and change sections of the draw to only consider the games you want to consider. We are 7-3 because we played 3 of the worst teams the comp has produced in years, and we are only 4-3 outside of that. The first 0-5 wasn't even that much of an abberation. We lost 3 games we would still lose now. We also nearly lost to the Crows in their home game last year so that isn't unrealistic. The only shock of our year to date was the pumping by Hawthorn.

I'll be more interested in the narrative after the Richmond game, when we're either 8-12 or 7-13 (I can't imagine how we'll be 10-10 or better). There's only a limited number of ways to polish a turd!!!!!!

 

[Pappagallo]

Lol i think the Greyhounds are cruel and barbaric/gambling is evil Helen Lovejoy stuff is over the top, but the issue of playing favourites to people with the same interests/business interests is definitely an issue. I have heard as much from a former employee down there that there is certainly a dishlickers clique.

Killing healthy dogs is fine but don’t you DARE get chummy with the boss!

 

[finbarr]

The more I think about it, the more I’m staggered as to how that greyhound thing came about, and that at a minimum, when player involvement was a possibility, Davies and Hinkley didn’t think to say “absolutely not”.

It brings into question judgement, decision-making and if we’re being honest, intelligence.

Remember, this is the same coach who sent all the players off to get "sensible" haircuts that time to put a halt to lackadaisical attitudes.

 

[philreich]

Unless GWS beat us, in which case judge us against 2011 and 2012, where the club was broke with the worst stadium deal in league history and in the middle of a full rebuild

And don't forget that the Giants hammered the Crows here earlier this year, so they don't fear coming to Adelaide.

 

[Papa G]

Killing healthy dogs is fine but don’t you DARE get chummy with the boss!

Lol. Greyhound racing as concept does not have direct influence on the ability of our club to be good at football. Nepotism, favouritism and unproffesionalism does. The point you clearly missed.

 

[JimmyBC]

There's no doubt he's too chummy with a number of players.

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saying on radio "Kenny's a mate & I won't wont comment on his coaching situation" was glaring.

Aside from being their coach/ex coach why are they so chummy with a bloke in his mid 50's.