Opinion Sack Hinkley 6 - Kochblocked

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Real big brain thinking to let the top prospective coaches get snapped up by north and gws while we wait until the end of the season to sack him.

Just do it now
Another last man standing bullshit... Sack him... Get the best in for interviews... Port would be a great place to land as a coach... Team with talent.. just needs a coach and a few tweeks to get us back where we belong.
 
Koch on AA this morning:

"We have underperformed this year to our expectation, there's absolutely no doubt about that. And I'm not going to give excuses there are reasons for it, and we'll be as we do at the end of every season assess our entire football program, because it's a football program issue, it's not any one individual it's a program issue, and we'll be assessing and making changes at the end of the year."

Whilst David can be a hard read at times, this is the first admittance that there will be changes to the footy department at the club at the end of the season.

It's nothing more than a man who knows nothing and isn't prepared to do anything throwing a bone our way hoping we take the offering, without questions.

Nobody is to blame, the blame lies exclusively with a thing.

The thing will have an internal review (like we always do), no reporting on the thing will ever be spoken about, some minor offerings will be made to appease the thing (a few players will get delisted - nothing drastic though, maybe a coach moved sideways or similar), there will be an appointment of some no-name coach or someone like Sutcliffe will be announced as a new addition to the coaching ranks and of course that person will be made to be some huge signing and on we go.

This is Koch at his game.

The football department isn't why we are where we are. It's not the reason we are struggling.

We are struggling because of the senior coach. His selections, his gameday tactics and his continual allowance of players to get away with efforts that would not be tolerated anywhere else.

Address those are we are a 3-5 goal better side without messing with anything else.

Don't let Koch fool you. He hasn't a clue what he's doing and his ego won't allow him to take advice from those that do.

Like every year, by the time our 'review' has finished anyone worthwhile has already been snapped up and somehow the best man for the job was right under our noses all the time. Or he's somebody knowbody has ever heard of.
 
I'm ringing the membership desk tomorrow and taking my 3 off auto renew. See what happens in the near future. It's going to be fckng hard to do if i chuck it in, but I have to do my bit.

Done and dusted. I didn't explain why because frankly I'm not in the mood, and absolutely no questions asked. All i said is I probably wont renew if things stay the same. So i guess three members are lost if Hinkley is still coaching next season. I really havent got any interest anymore.

I'll go to the showdown purely if its Robbies last game.
 
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History is littered with teams that are more talented that fail to achieve any sort of success. I remember when GWS and Gold Coast were first admitted to the competition that the consensus on BigFooty was that they would raffle ten premierships between them between 2016-2026. The coach has an impact but at the end of the day, it's the players who have to want it. They are the ones who have to put their head over the ball.


Hmmm. That list included Cameron Hitchcock, John Butcher, Campbell Heath, Lewis Stevenson, Mason Shaw, Sam Colquhoun, Jarrad Redden, Mitch Harvey, Tom Logan and Ben Newton.

Even our best 22 for that match included Kane Cornes (retired at the start of 2015 after playing 300 games), Jay Schulz (injured for most of 2016 and retired), Alipate Carlile (injured for most of 2016 and retired), Cam O'Shea (delisted in 2016), Matthew White (injured for most of 2016, retired at the end of 2017), Andrew Moore (delisted at the end of 2015), Jackson Trengove (FA to Bulldogs at the end of 2017), Jarman Impey (traded to Hawthorn at the end of 2017), Matthew Lobbe (injured for most of 2016, traded to Carlton at the end of 2017), Angus Monfries (missed all of 2016 thanks to Essendon's bullshit, retired at the end of 2017) and Jake Neade (who everyone on this board calls a spud).

How many teams do you know of that can lose half of their best 22 that made a prelim within the space of three years and expect to win one flag, let alone multiple flags?


I don't want any favours. No asterisk flags.

As for the Dogs - we lost the contested possession count by -30 that game - 166 to 136. It's a meme on this board, but we just didn't work hard enough. No disrespect, but playing Geelong in the prelim where we won the contested possession 136 to 128 and dominated the game was probably the worse thing that could have happened to that team. They went up a level for the prelim, we didn't.
How many more excuses are you willing to give Hinkley and co cause that's what they are masquerading as in depth analysis.

The consensus was leading into 2015 we were one of the Premiership favourites. League wide was the case, we shat the bed under the weight of expectation with losses against Brisbane and Carlton back to back which shelved the entire idea after being well placed at 3-2, we wrecked our entire season and fell short and missed the finals. There's a common theme from then until 2020 & 2021 that you neglect to address that mentally the playing group & Hinkley and his multitude of staff over that period falter & fail under any weight of expectation and pressure. Season 2018 we blew 11-4 to miss the 8 entirely, which is a stunning achievement in itself. Once again that year expectations came calling and we fell. I'm not even going to bother mentioning back to back home preliminary final failures cause they have been covered a million times on here.

You can claim oh the list wasn't good enough for this period or that period but Aaron Keating, Aaron Shattock from memory, Jamie Charman and any other player ranked 17-22 in a Premiership team is a Premiership player proving the idea the list wasn't good enough dead in the water. You need players to play a role in Premiership sides outside of your elite talent doing their job. To many times we have piegon holed midfielders like Sam Gray into forward posts or other mids into back flanks and god knows what, and that's poor coaching by one man who's been a constant since 2013. Then we've gone through periods of no ruckman playing at all, failed many a young key position prospect that lays on one man as well.

The Utopian idea of "Total Football" under Hinkley doesn't exist, it never has and never will. It doesn't exist in AFL footy as a whole it's a football term and stays there cause it's the only sport it works. I'll happily debate the merits of total football with you but not on a AFL forum as it isn't the time nor space for that.

Frankly the idea that there's a excuse for a man who's a good coach and will never be a great or Premiership coach is tiresome. I admire the fact every year after the same type of failure you have new theory on how it might work, but facts are Hinkley has gone as far as he can, he's achieved all he can. He can't go any further. It isn't the players, the list managers nor the club's fault, it rests on Hinkley alone. He's had a fair crack at it, no one can fault his effort but the time has come for change at Alberton.
 
lol Timmy G has just basically put the kibosh on Kenny not being here next year.

He signed a 2 year contract extension mid last year and we are seen as a 'welfare club' - meaning the AFL will not allow a 12 month payout.

He'll be here forever
 
lol Timmy G has just basically put the kibosh on Kenny not being here next year.

He signed a 2 year contract extension mid last year and we are seen as a 'welfare club' - meaning the AFL will not allow a 12 month payout.

He'll be here forever
Timmy's legacy is starting to get smeared. Being a paid up employee of this regime makes him complicit in it.
 
That's a crows fan?😯
No he is not a Crows fan by any stretch of the imagination.
And going at him instead of Koch et al is a bit weird.

Of all the problems our club has, he isn’t even on the list.
 
lol Timmy G has just basically put the kibosh on Kenny not being here next year.

He signed a 2 year contract extension mid last year and we are seen as a 'welfare club' - meaning the AFL will not allow a 12 month payout.

He'll be here forever
It’s a 6 month payout.

Flat to hear Tim say that. He is employed by PAFC though. He hates Hinkley just as much as the rest of us for what it’s worth.
 
lol Timmy G has just basically put the kibosh on Kenny not being here next year.

He signed a 2 year contract extension mid last year and we are seen as a 'welfare club' - meaning the AFL will not allow a 12 month payout.

He'll be here forever
Heard that as well he reckons the 6 month payout is not a thing? huh

So as a 'benefit' club we won't get approval to sack & have to suck it up?

So much mixed messaging. Koch said we could pay out a coach earlier this year if someone can dig it up.
 
Timmy G pretty much confirmed that Port Adelaide are club still receiving benefits from the AFL, therefore under scrutiny and there's no way the AFL would allow us to pay out a full year's contract for the coach. He also said the six-month only payout is not a thing. Basically, the club had extended his contract in the middle of last year (I would argue the year before), and have committed to him.

There you have it folks. Strap yourselves in, Hinkley is here for one more year, like it or not.
 
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