Opinion Sack Hinkley 8 - "Ask me in August"

[Papa G]

This is such rubbish. We were 20 points down with less than half a quarter to go. The Swans got back in front with 3 mins or so left. The Finlayson took a great mark and scored with under two minutes to go. Sure the defending was poor leading up to Florent’s mark. But it had been very good until then. And players miss from 45 out on an angle all the time. Just because the board has become a kind of doom cult over the past few seasons doesn’t mean we can’t appreciate a very courageous win.

Hinkley has been head coach of Port Adelaide longer than Napoleon was Emporer of France. Slightly different levels of achievement.

 

[Marmozet]

There's not going to be a sacking. It's going to be the most amicable parting of ways.

He'll be given a great big farewell match against Richmond in Round 24 and walk off to a guard of honour and a standing ovation. Even Damien Hardwick and all of Richmond's 3x premiership players will join in on the celebrations for Kenny too.

Then he'll be announced as the new senior coach of the Gold Coast SUNS three days later.

 

[afl2004]

Every win this year adds more months/years to our premiership drought

I know wanting to lose sucks but we don't have much other course of action,
except people having the balls to drop memberships/season tickets like I unfortunately had to do

 

[dirty2]

F*** me, channel 10 sport saying the club said that Hinkley was never under any pressure and they are going to prove the doubters wrong.

I swear they are going to give him a new contract.

It's the end of me if they do.

 

[Econopower]

They were sans two key defenders and had one less rotation for more than half the game. If we’re serious we shouldn’t have even been in a position where we needed to run over the top of them, which we barely did.

Yeah it was an “exciting” finish but that doesn’t negate all of the issues with our performance. We kicked one goal in two quarters combined with the oppo’s defence in tatters FFS. Does that scream “famous victory” to you?

Who is declaring it a ‘famous’ victory? It was a good victory against a very good team, alway from home. This board is constantly whining about the team giving up when it is down, for good reason. But here is a game where we did that twice. Of course there were and are significant flaws in the team and its strategy. But every close win or loss involves some luck and it doesn’t negate the effort on the day.

 

[Econopower]

Hinkley has been head coach of Port Adelaide longer than Napoleon was Emporer of France. Slightly different levels of achievement.

I’m on the record as saying Hinkley should have gone years ago and should at end-season. That doesn’t mean I can’t appreciate a rare come from behind win.

 

[Us against the rest]

It's the end of me if they do.

I will detach completely if they do.

 

[Econopower]

It was a good win, not a famous win. Get a grip.

I think it is you that needs to get a grip. If you can find any examples of my using the word ‘famous’ to describe the win, be my guest. It was a good, hard win, nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Duckimus Prime]

Anyone else having flashbacks to McGovern marking it 35m out virtually unopposed?

It was hardly unopposed, and it was a game where we lost Dixon, Ryder and Houston to injuries.

 

[manureid]

Syndicate member Chris Davies backs Syndicate member Ken Hinkley. Shocked to be sitting here.

 

[Harlott]

Who is declaring it a ‘famous’ victory? It was a good victory against a very good team, alway from home. This board is constantly whining about the team giving up when it is down, for good reason. But here is a game where we did that twice. Of course there were and are significant flaws in the team and its strategy. But every close win or loss involves some luck and it doesn’t negate the effort on the day.

Our history under Hinkley is littered with good wins against good teams. What we’ve lacked is a steely resolve, a resilience for a whole season that makes you confident that we’re going to give the competition an almighty shake. I have never felt that under the current regime. I just have no trust in them and the team. You’ll get a performance like against Brisbane and I don’t really feel excited or satisfied because you don’t know what’s coming next. So then you get the capitulation against Collingwood and the last qtr surrender against Adelaide.
Lots of us are more than tired of it.

 

[tribey]

I also wonder how many of those hitting back at Tredders have actually listened to his entire podcast or are just reacting to the bits the media choose to quote.

This is a fairly common phenomenon in podcasting in the United States, where that particular industry is massive and the secondary market is desperate to write viral articles about what prominent people (hosts and guests) have said.

Known as ‘aggregation’, the context of a wider point, let alone the tone of a single statement (humorous/sarcastic versus serious/earnest) is often lost as outlets piggyback off each other.

Warren’s experiencing that phenomenon now, is the point I’m making.

 

[crows dude]

There's not going to be a sacking. It's going to be the most amicable parting of ways.

He'll be given a great big farewell match against Richmond in Round 24 and walk off to a guard of honour and a standing ovation. Even Damien Hardwick and all of Richmond's 3x premiership players will join in on the celebrations for Kenny too.

Then he'll be announced as the new senior coach of the Gold Coast SUNS three days later.

Na he will probably be Tassy's coach.

 

[Pappagallo]

It was hardly unopposed, and it was a game where we lost Dixon, Ryder and Houston to injuries.

Looks pretty unopposed to me!

 

[Pappagallo]

Who is declaring it a ‘famous’ victory? It was a good victory against a very good team, alway from home. This board is constantly whining about the team giving up when it is down, for good reason. But here is a game where we did that twice. Of course there were and are significant flaws in the team and its strategy. But every close win or loss involves some luck and it doesn’t negate the effort on the day.

Our very own GM of Football on the nightly news, apparently.

 

[tribey]

Our very own GM of Football on the nightly news, apparently.

The bloke who with the coach celebrated an after-siren winner by Robbie Gray against a bog-standard Carlton outfit in neutral Queensland like they’d just won Powerball,

Only for the club to turn around and lose at home to the Saints in Quarantini’20?

Surely not!

 

[Del165198]

Syndicate member Chris Davies backs Syndicate member Ken Hinkley. Shocked to be sitting here.

 

[davesnothere]

The club removed him from the coaches box.
Words vs action.

 

[PAFC27]

Pre Sydney win: We’re 1-2. Stop overreacting.
Post Sydney win: We’re 2-2. Don’t you feel like you overreacted now?

 

[GremioPower]

The 2020 extension was completely justified

No, it was not.

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As for Warren T... He went too early simple as that.

He went 4 years too late at the minimum.

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if we make finals we're getting another two years of Hinkley.

Yep. An EF loss, and Hinkley stays.

 

[Shaucob_Burjan]

Cassisi was drafted in the Creed and win the premiership at all costs regime.

It's clear to me after 1 or 2 years with Ken and Koch that it's no longer about that.

It's an indictment on Koch and the board leadership.

Tredrea carried these former teammates to a premiership. The fact that they cannot see 'we exist to win premierships' is a failure of this club.

 

[Progressive Aggresion]

We've started 2-2 under Hinkley 5 times now. The prior 4 consisted of 2015,16,17,19

We missed the finals in 3 of those 4 years and didn't even win the final in the one which we DID make.

No idea what the number of Premiership/Grand Final teams starting 2-2 are, but it's definitely not happening under Doughnuts.

 

[240volt]

I will detach completely if they do.

That’s sounding like a tricky operation.
Don’t worry mate there will be no Ken for us in 2024.
Wonder how long it will take for the Sack Carr thread to kick in?

 

[Del165198]

Cassisi was drafted in the Creed and win the premiership at all costs regime.

It's clear to me after 1 or 2 years with Ken and Koch that it's no longer about that.

It's an indictment on Koch and the board leadership.

Tredrea carried these former teammates to a premiership. The fact that they cannot see 'we exist to win premierships' is a failure of this club.

cassisi's all time highlight was beating geelong at piss park in 2007.

at that time it seemed incredible.

then a few weeks later, we lost by 200 points in the worst grand final loss of all time.

edit: i ****ed up, his career highlight was obviously playing in a flag. as a player, his memorable moment is kicking the goal that got us home in that 2007 game.

 

[Steve Dore]

Hinkley has been head coach of Port Adelaide longer than Napoleon was Emporer of France. Slightly different levels of achievement.

Send Hinkley to Saint Helena.